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So apparently, Passen was pissed about a Jeff Pasan account that got 5k+ likes on a fake "Cole to the Yankees" report. I was hoping it was Joff as well lol

Strikes do not = Command.

Reportedly, that 5/200 offer was what they floated at Bryce last off-season. Rendon is better than Bryce, and supposedly (hard to say for sure with baseball rumors) the Dodgers are prepared to offer Rendon something similar. Trout got the 37.16 over 12 years. By reducing the contract to 5, I think Rendon will set an AAV record but we'll have to see. I'd be shocked if he signed a deal longer than 5 years - max 6. He has been pretty adamant that he has no desire of playing baseball into his late 30's. Edit: Also, people cite the Nationals offers frequently - did so with Bryce as well. That offer supposedly had like 50 million deferred - similar to the offer they made to Bryce. Those figures aren't a real great representation of what was offered. 7/210 with 0 deferred money is worth a lot more than 7/210 with 50 million deferred paid out 10 years from now over a 5 year window etc etc.

I wanted to like this post, but you have a nice round 420 points so I don't want to change that. Agree wholeheartedly. Excited to see Madrigal, and think he's going to be a very enjoyable player to watch for years to come. Enjoyed watching him at Oregon State.

According to the source, Fiers, the cheating started in 2017. In 2014/15/16 Springer had a wRC+ of about 128. If you take out Mookie's incredible 185 year, over the other 5 years of Mookies career his wRC+ is 128.

Honestly think Rendon is going to get a 5/200 type contract. Springer would cost a fraction of that - probably similar years, but significantly less in AAV. 5/150ish.

Would love to have Springer. Think between the two of them, with the expected prices, I'd rather have Springer because he won't demand the years (he'll be 31) and I think Springer's bat projects better going forward than Mookies. I'd run Daniel Palka out there every game this year if you guaranteed me they'd sign Springer next off-season.

Yeah, I'm furious. That's why I am following you thread to thread quoting your posts solely for the purpose of attacking you. Oh wait... Pal, the day I get mad over an internet discussion will be the day I call it quits.

Sox should sign Springer and Betts next off-season. DISCUSS!

Yes, it's always good to have in depth discussions about things that will never happen. Sox should sign: Rendon, Stras, Cole, and trade for Mookie. Discuss!

Try posting to the post and not the poster, bud. Give it a go, and maybe you won't embarrass yourself calling someone an idiot and telling them to check their math when you apparently can't read. If our opinions turning out wrong meant we should stop posting them, you would have been knocked out of conversations eons ago. Nothing funnier than when a guy attacks someone, is 100% wrong and instead of apologizing and moving on they double down and continue to ridicule said poster. Internet is a great place.

So the Phillies were willing to go into the luxury tax to sign Rendon, but they settled for Wheeler instead of Cole/Strasberg? Yeah, I'll go ahead and call BS on this one.

Cool; this isn't basketball. Mike Trout has made one post-season appearance in his career.

So you are trading pieces of the future to be more competitive next year? That is exactly what the White Sox used to do, and it's exactly what got them in this predicament in the first place... and it's the exact thing you've been incredible critical of (as have most all fans). Minds aren't changing; pointless to continue going back and forth. Have a nice weekend.

At about 5-8 times the cost.

So they're not all-in if they trade for Betts? Then what the heck are they doing?

Rodon is getting 15 starts when at best he returns in July? At most, the Sox get 10 starts from Rodon. The guy had Tommy John 7 months ago for god sakes. Kopech isn't in the big league longer than half the season as far as Hahn has implied.

Cease already made 14 starts this year; unless you just want to pretend those didn't happen, so him making 28 starts only nets you 14 more than last year. Maybe sort out your math and facts before being a snarky douchebag.

Lopez hasn't missed a start in 3 years. Carlos Rodon has never had a single healthy season. Health does matter. Going into a season all-in relying on Carlos Rodon might as well be team suicide.

I think one of those two is going to get a hell of a lot less than he thinks; White Sox would be smart to wait that market out. If the rate drops low enough, pounce and take it home - even if neither are perfect players.

109 starts = 3 full-time starters. Let's say Cease gets to 28 starts this year from 14 last - now they need to find 95 starts. Kopech makes 15 (1/2 a season), now they need 80 starts. That's, again, nearly 3 full time starters and they've signed zero. They can't afford to go into a year with a Drew Smyly as their 5th starter - or Alex Wood - when they are "all in" after trading for Betts.

Mike Trout is possibly the best player of All-Time; he's made the playoffs once in his career. I want to win; I don't want to be happy that I get to watch Betts play for a year. I have MLB.tv, I can watch him if I want.

Sorry, it was 5.19 to 5.38. That really changes the point I was making.

Yeah, they could trade him and be OK if they had something to replace him. Even with rostering Lopez last year, the team gave 76 starts to: Omar Despaigne, Carson Fulmer, Ivan Nova, Hector Santiago, Dylan Covey, Ross Detweiler, and Manny Banuelos. They already need to replace those 76 starts. If you move Lopez for Betts, now the Sox need to replace 109 starts! from last year, and they haven't signed a single pitcher yet. LOL

Rodon had a worse ERA than Lopez last year and a worse FIP than Lopez in 2018. So Lopez is expendable and not a part of the future, but Rodon - coming off multiple injuries - should be depended on to impact the roster and help them after the All-Star Break in a season in which they now would have to contend because they only have Betts for one year. No, it's not the right time to acquire him because they can literally sign him next year if they want him and not give up pieces of their future. What is difficult to understand about this? If 2020 was a prime-contention year, fine but it's simply not and this would be an idiotic and rushed move for a purpose many do not understand.