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A Latin American baseball player implies he's from LATIN AMERICA. Holy cow... are you just trolling me right now? Manny Machado is as AMERICAN as Eric Hosmer. You don't refer to Eric Hosmer as European American, do you? Enough with the ignorant racial nonsense. Manny Machado is American.

For the record, I have never heard a bad word about Machado from his former teammates - not a single one. Public perception does not equal private reality in sports.

Says the guy who keeps calling Manny Machado a Latin American baseball player. Difference is, I was joking. I will say this, I will never assume someone isn't juicing in baseball regardless of testing. Don't be naive fella's. It's not out of the game - it certainly wasn't when I was in college in 2005-2009.

It's a joke Balta - relax pal. I said it because I was pointing out earlier that holy shit... Tatis looked like a 5 year old in his signing photo. He's not huge now, but guy looked like an elementary student before... I guess most 16 year olds do though.

Agree with this. The Giants make no sense for a lot of reasons. Bumgarner is leaving and they have no pitching after him - Cueto is dead, and Samardzija is still Samartard. They have aging bats in the lineup with no real prospects coming up. They don't have great payroll flexibility after signing Bryce. The ballpark is a pain in the ass to hit in unless your name is Barry Bonds. The Dodgers don't make a lot of sense to me either - I don't think there's any chance they give him 10 years. They could certainly afford it, but they'd practically be paying Bryce 25-50% more than his salary with the tax involved. I could see the Giants just throwing 10 at 350 and a 4 year opt out at Bryce and he'd clearly accept because it'll be the best offer but it's an odd choice... what makes it even weirder is the GM wants nothing to do with him, and he's brand new and was brought in to turn around this dumpster fire that was started by taking on aging veteran contracts. If ownership goes over his head 6 months into the new job, I'd be pissed.

The 27th ranked international prospect has never made the big leagues since they started that ranking system. None of them have even cracked the top 100 prospects. Tatis was the first one to do so. It sucks because he is a talented kid, but he's probably just juicing.

I'm not defending it, but I'm also not blowing it up like most. The fact is, we gave the 30th ranked prospect twice as much money. We gave him that, and if we traded him tomorrow (he's still only 20 years old) no one would blink. Obviously he's played poorly, but still. We traded a guy that was a lottery ticket and the Padres hit the jackpot. Crediting Preller with some diabolical plan to get Tatis because of his super human scouting abilities is just laughable given the timeline I laid out. The trade sucked, but I'd be the greatest GM of all time if hindsight was allowed. 999 out of 1000 times, you trade a guy like Tatis at that time and you never hear of him again. That's a fact. The Sox caught the one time. Shit happens.

Story has never made sense anyway.... so the Padres owner got involved because the price was so low and then ended up paying expected market value from the start? Not buying it. Amazing how unlikable such a worthless franchise is to me now.

No. You said Latina American players. Manny machado is American. He was born and raised in the USA and went to US high school. Hes not a Latin American prospect no matter how Mmany times people want to continue to spew it. I have Irish in me. I was born in America. If the white Sox signed me, you wouldnt be talking about the white Sox Irish pipeline. My lord.

Manny Machado is from southern Florida.

My goodness - what are you rambling about? Preller didn't think Tatis was some superstar in the making - if he did, he would have signed him for 1 million or 900k. That's all it cost. It's not as if Preller was secretly scouting him during the practices and games that didn't take place. Yes, so Preller was at White Sox Dominican training facility scouting the White Sox signees. You can't make this shit up. . I've already asked you to point to all these Latin American stars that Preller has signed, but none of them exist so you were unable to do it. By the way; the Padres prospect rankings, and signing of guys like Urias, means absolutely nothing in this situation. You bring it up to prove your point that Preller must have known something when in fact, Preller had a chance to sign him for peanuts and didn't. Preller got lucky. EOS.

Caufield, please stop pushing this nonsensical BS when it comes to Tatis. I have corrected you on this 100 times, but you keep singing the praises of the genius that is AJ Preller which is just laughable. Here are the facts: Fernando Tatis Jr was signed by the Chicago White Sox on July 2nd, 2015. He was the 27! ranked IFA out of 30. The White Sox signed him for $825,000. The irony is, Paddy is credited with the signing. ANYONE could have had Tatis, including Preller. He passed on him and didn't want to offer him 1 million. On June 4th, of 2016, without Tatis playing a single professional game for the White Sox, he was traded to the Padres. He was a wild card ticket for the Padres. If they thought he was a top elite prospect they would have signed him 8 months earlier for 1 million dollars. There's nothing they could have possibly seen with him not playing... that would lean to them trading for him. The White Sox actually gave the 30 ranked player that year (Franklin Reyes) 1.5 million to sign with them. Tatis was TINY, I will say that.

I'm not worried because its uh... February. Jeeze Sox fans. Its baseball.

Lol it's two games.

Jack, the Sox aren't drawing under 1 million fans. My goodness.

Why do you keep saying this? Preller didnt know a lot more about tatis. He could have signed him for next to nothing.

Nah, the report will be that Boras never called back but that they were prepared to offer the best deal by far!

Will be funny if Boras doesnt even give a final bid and Sox are just sitting there waiting for the call while the news announces his signing.

Giants will go 10 for 350. Ownership doesnt just talk - when they want someone they get him. Giants gonna be saddled with big bad contracts all over the place.

I have said 100000 times the Sox are out on Harper and anyone holding on to hope is a dope. that was a joke of what could have been white Sox 4d chess.

Alright, for all the optimist let me give you a scenario in which this would be the White Sox playing 4D chess - they're not this smart, but this would have been genius. White Sox set Bryce Harper as their target at the beginning of the offseason. They make the big presentation, and love it. They come out of that thinking Harper is not going to sign early because of what Boras did last year. They see it's just them, the Phillies and Nationals seriously in on Harper at the time, and outside shot with Dodgers but probably not. Sox also meet with Machado but dont like him as much. Work ethic, knees and etc maybe dumb Sox concerns. Bat is good but not world class. Risk with aging and defense going faster. They start getting named the leaders for machado because they offer 8 for 250, and wanted Bryce. He fits the mold they want etc etc. They start leaking low offers like the 175 trying to get the Phillies to go over. They never buy in. Sox see San Diego and find a way out. They counter with the 2 dumb incentive years. Would make sense why SD didnt think they'd land him. Thought Sox would up 8 at 250 but instead just offered two bogus years. Meanwhile, Phillies don't get him so Sox are pissed. Also pissed because they realize how dumb they look pretending to be all in on machado. A 13 million dollar head fake gone wrong. They reposition and now arent sure how high they have to go for Harper. Phillies were talking stupid money and are out on machado. Sox thought that was the Phillies guy. Now they're competing with them and cant fail because the fanbase thought they screwed up the machado sweepstakes when it was the 4d chess plan to suppress the Harper market to them and... no one like it is now, by handing machado to the Phillies. But the Padres fucked that up. Sox play pr disaster control, and try to get it knocked away with Harper asap without anyone leaking the true plan or information. White Sox 4d chess. Lol

I dont think any of this matters - union wants the most money - but man... when I was playing baseball and my best friend too - I'd have taken less money if we're talking tens of millions to play in the same city for a decade. It would be so much fun to have had gone through that with him.

Crawford and Heyward weren't shocking to me. Sizemore was all injuries so that just happens - kid was an animal. Chavez was kind of like Heyward - lot of defensive value.

Padres - no Sox - out Nats - out How could Harper's number be getting too big?? No one is even bidding. Wtf

I'm not happy pal, but it's a game and stuff happens. Rationally speaking it's not the end of the rebuild and huge contracts arent always great. I'm disappointed too but it's not some fan breaking sin.