Controlled Chaos

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 11, 2006 -> 09:28 AM) I'm actually not that nervous anymore. Hopefully the White Sox feel the same way. I agree!! That's three times this week!!

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 11, 2006 -> 09:06 AM) The Sox beat the Tigers the first 5 times they played this season. The Tigers have won 3 of the last 4 head to head meetings. Considering their record, I would have a hard time believing the Tigers will ever feel they "just can't seem to beat" anyone this year. I do think they have to go in the tank for at least a little stretch still, but anything short of a White Sox sweep will put no pressure at all on them. In fact, if the White Sox took 2 out of 3, they would gain 1 game, but knock 3 off the schedule. I think the division is a longshot at best, but the WC has won the WS a lot lately. If somehow the pitching rounds back into form....................... Who would the wild card team play in the playoffs??

QUOTE(SoxnGiants @ Aug 11, 2006 -> 08:49 AM) I think this is a huge game... and period of our season. It would take a lot of pressure off Buehrle for tomorrow and put us in the driver's seat for another series win. If we keep winning every series we will make the playoffs. Beating the Tiger's ace will also do wonders for momentum within the division and hopefully boost our confidence even more. If we still have eyes on the division (we should) we must win this game. Hopefully, Jose will pitch a dominating complete game shut out! Not to mention the psyche of the tigers. If we take 2-3 or sweep we'll be 8-4 or 9-3 and they'll start feeling that they just can't seem to beat the World Champs. If we can get them to the point where they start pressing and stop cruising...I like our chances.

Alright boys Cowboy the F*ck up!!!!!!!!!

Ozzie Guillen Fined $10,000 For What He Just Thought August 10, 2006 | Onion Sports CHICAGO—MLB disciplinary officials announced that Ozzie Guillen would be fined $10,000 and ordered to undergo sensitivity psychoanalysis for the "irresponsible, offensive, and completely unacceptable" thoughts that passed through the White Sox manager's mind during Wednesday night's game. Enlarge Image "During the fourth inning of yesterday's White Sox-Yankees contest, Mr. Guillen's mind conjured a series of insensitive, wildly inappropriate—I would even go so far as to say depraved—thoughts and images," said Bob Watson, MLB vice president of on-field discipline. "Baseball is a social institution with a responsibility to espouse proper values, and there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to entertain thoughts which portray people in a negative or demeaning light, regardless of their race, color, creed, culture, sexual orientation, gender, weight, or personal beliefs." "Major League Baseball would like to offer its most profound, heartfelt apologies to those portrayed inappropriately in Mr. Guillen's mind, including African-Americans, Cuban-Americans, Caucasian-Americans, Dominican-Americans, 'immigrants,' the sportswriting community, the gay community, the White Sox fan community, the communities of Schaumburg, IL and New York City, the umpiring crew, Yankee right-fielder Bobby Abreu and his female relatives, members of the Peace Corps, and women—particularly the female fan seated in Section 32, Row B, Seat 7," Watson added. Watson's report alleges that Guillen carelessly composed his thoughts without considering the fact that millions of fans would know exactly what he was thinking in the event that television cameras inevitably cut to a shot of his sour expression. And according to commissioner Bud Selig, the idea of remorse never crossed Guillen's mind. "Ozzie's thoughts were in poor taste, and the sheer volume and scope of them—all of which occurred over a 17-second span of time—seem to indicate that they were premeditated," Selig said. "I also must strongly emphasize that our organization neither shares nor condones Mr. Guillen's views on statutory rape, regardless of whether or not they are ever vocalized." Guillen's thoughts upon learning of his punishment earned him an additional $5,000 fine and a three-game suspension. "I'm not going to change the way I think," Guillen said during an apology late Wednesday. "Anyone who knows me will tell you I can't control my thoughts." "I acknowledge that the things that entered my mind today might have offended certain groups of people, but you have to realize I didn't mean anything by it," Guillen continued. "After all, my mother is dead, too, and I would never want anyone digging up her corpse and paying drunken, uh, Arabs to do those things to her. And as for people of Middle Eastern origin, I was only imagining those terms being used to refer to just one specific 'filthy raghead,' not a whole region of them." "Also, I would never, ever do that kind of thing to a person in real life, even if I had a worn-down radial-saw blade and 100 milligrams of hydrogen cyanide at my disposal," Guillen added. A recent poll indicates that 97 percent of baseball fans were offended by Guillen's thoughts, with an astounding 12 percent of those polled actually having been personally attacked, insulted, or killed within Guillen's inner tirade. "Ozzie needs to remember that people have families… My 9-year-old daughter was watching at home, and even though she isn't old enough to understand what a 'tire-iron abortion' is, I'm sure she understood that what he was thinking was not nice," said Chicago resident and White Sox fan Brian McVeigh. "And this isn't the last time he'll be on TV. What will I have to explain to my daughter next time she sees Ozzie thinking? Bestiality? Knife rape? Auschwitz?" Guillen, however, claims that if he truly meant what he thought, he would have just come out and said it. "Am I going to have to explain everything I think from now on?" Guillen asked reporters. "Do I really need to tell you people that I don't actually want fuel truck after fuel truck to plow into an orphanage? That I don't really want to feed baby rats to [White Sox pitcher] Jon Garland so they chew their way through his intestinal system and expel themselves out his rectum in unison? That I actually love and respect my wife? Can't you people figure this out on your own? I'm not that bad a guy." "f***ing f***** assholes," Guillen added.

meh....not even close with my 5959 and 5960

QUOTE(soxunited @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) One thing I would like to say about Vasquez and his start tonight against the Yankees. . . If you are expecting a repeat performance of 8 innings of 2 hit 1 run ball from him, you are going to be very disapointed. Javy was facing a struggling Blue Jay team that had just been through a horrendous road stretch against the likes of Oakland and the Yankees. As long as he makes it through 6 innings giving up 4 runs or less, I would qualify that as a good start for him, for these reasons: (1) Mussina is very talented, but like Mark Buerhle, he "lives on the corners". In his last start against Baltimore, Mussina was not getting the calls, and eventually gave up 3 runs over 5 innings, a very un-Mussina like start. Given the umpiring of this series (bad for both sides), Mussina may struggle and end up leaving earlier than expected. This leads me to . . . (2) The Yankee bullpen. The White Sox should be commended for the hurting it put on the Yankee bullpen over the past two games. Over the past two games, Farnsworth pitched 16 and 29 pitches respectively, Villone has pitched 23 and 12 respectively. Rivera has pitched 15 and 26 respectively. These guys are not well rested individuals. That leaves Joe Toree with the likes of Sidney Ponson, Scott Proctor, Mike Myers and Veras. If I was a Yankee fan, those names would not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling if the game is close. This White Sox team has proven time and time again that no lead is safe in the Cell, if Javy can keep the game within reach, I would say he is making progress and the alterations he has made to his delivery are really making a difference. Should be a good one I agree with your assesment with the exeption of the Blue Jays remark. I don't think you should take anything away from Javy's 2 hit performance. Slump or not, Toronto is a kick ass offensive team and Javy shut them down. With that said...I'd like to see it again before I start believing his "fixed."

Let's go Boys!! Time to take the series...I know you were saving the sweep for Detroit so it's cool.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 12:43 PM) Completely disagree. The pressure on this team is probably greater now than it has been this entire year. I agree!!

8-3 Sox. Johnson gets knocked out in the 3rd.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) Trust me, I've talked to plenty of people that consider themselves "the greatest Sox fans on the planet" who went to sleep prior to the end of Game 3. Unless you're in a coma at the hospital, there's no excuse for a living Sox fan to not be able to watch the full game. I Agree!!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 03:46 PM) He's been on my ass for a while. Who cares? And I'm sure a whole lot of people were sure not to be too overconfident. I bet even more did a lot of stupid things in order not to jinx the team. Really, I didn't mean to be "on your ass" or critical, I just want you to enjoy the ride a little dude. I was up fathom.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) I have to say, PK's grandslam was the only time I showed any extreme enthusiasm throughout the entire playoffs (minus the final out, of course). I was too afraid to really be happy for fear of jinxing anything. When Konerko hit that, I went nuts, as did the team and the fans at the game. Watching all the commotion, one of my roommates said, "this isn't over, they're celebrating too much." And he ended up being right. I think the WS was over on Pods' swing. haha...Dude you need to enjoy life more. The pessimism just oozes out of you... On topic though...Glad your pop is doin better blazewc77.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 12:58 PM) Wow, now we have racist remarks on this forum. Good work. That is so far from racist Tito. Sterotypical yes, but not racist. That word is thrown around so loosely.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:42 AM) This excuse used to be that we were the #2 team in baseball. Then, it was that we're #3. Soon, we'll be happy ( ) that we're hovering around .500, woohoo! And you live to bury your head in the sand. I'm not burying my head in the sand. I know we haven't played well, but there's a difference between not playing well and not believing we're capable of playing well. I won't go so far as to say you root for them too do bad. I know you're a fan and want them to win, but you do revel in their losses. It gives you a chance to come on here and complain. This guy sucks, that guy sucks, gm sucks, coach sucks. We need to do this or that.... It's like you get to be the GM/Coach except when you're wrong and you were way wrong last year....nobody gives a crap. It's fun, there's no accountablity in what you do. When they're winning you don't have much to say. You might complain about a couple guys that aren't playing well, but overall you don't have much to contribute. I think you're favorite game is one where the Sox suck at almost every facet of the game, but still win. As a fan you still get the win, but with all the suckage you get to come on here and question everything....you live for that stuff. You can't wait to come on here and call someone out. and to address BigSquirt.... Yeah if they're 5 games out of the wildcard, what's wrong with saying we're only 5 games out of the wildcard?? As a fan what are you suppose to do, hope for them to lose cause they're 5 back?? You root for them to find that magic and make a run...If they can make the playoffs anything can happen. I mean I know it's not the best position to be in, but it's not out of contention so you cheer for em to win it all. What benefit is there to saying, they have no chance, if mathmatically and realistically they do??

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:40 AM) Please forgive us for expecting more out of a team with a $100 million payroll. We should be thankful for the fact that the team seems complacent with being "pretty good." They sure are earning their checks. You live to b****....

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:48 AM) Wasn't QuesTec installed earlier in the season when Buerhle was cruising? Its not like its a new deal. I'm sure he's pitched in stadiums with it for many years, and he's never been lit up like he has been the last month. Excuses are just so weak IMO. If you suck, just say you suck. I'm really dissappointed in Buerhle, I thought he was more of a man than this. He needs to hold himself accountable for his struggles. Hey Dick, Did you watch the game?

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) Even winning 7 of 10 only gives us 4 games in the standings. Meaning we would have to count on them to lose 5 times while we win. We need to win atleast 8 of 10 to have a chance at the division. Of course we need some help from them. If they keep winning at the pace they are now, they will be impossible to catch. They need a flat tire and they need to be pressured by us. They're playing too loose right now...If we can apply some pressure, things can change in a hurry.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) Actually I see the next two weeks as a way to turn the season around, so I'm looking forward to it. Look, if we scuffle against the Yankees and don't kill the Tigers and don't sweep the Royals (or close to it), then I'm not going to have any delusions about how we'll end up this season. Let's be real here: Detroit is BETTER than we were last season (at least so far) and being that many games over .500 is insane. And that's also the sad part: we are 20+ games over .500 and we're a distant second? Geez. Unless the wheels fall off Detroit in the last two months--which granted, could happen to anybody--we're looking at wild card or nothing IMO. Nine games is a BIG lead for a team that hot. Although, weren't we up like 13 at this point last year, and almost blew it? We don't need the wheels to completely fall off, we just need a flat tire. Sweep or not they have looked vulnerable the last few games. We need to handle them like we have all year. We are 7 losses back. We need to put together a winning streak and put some pressure on them. If they start caving and playing .500 ball this will be a race come September 18.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 10:49 AM) Oh really? Do you have a time machine? How can you determine what is close, and what is not? Some of you guys crack me up. I guess it's the same way some people have determined that we cannnot possibly catch Detroit.

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) AJ ought to be wearing some extra protection on his elbow today. I think Sandy is catching.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:49 AM) In this thread, I will be tracking this seemingly impossible stretch of games. Aside from the 4-game set against the Royals, every other team is a Wild Card/Playoff contender. Good luck, White Sox. I'm hoping for at least 15 wins in this stretch... Bold is home games. LAA NYY NYY NYY DET DET DET KC KC KC KC MIN MIN MIN DET DET DET DET MIN MIN MIN That's 21 games in 21 days. I'd take 15-6. As long as no more than 2 of those losses came to Detroit. In my opinion though, this important stretch started 9 games ago and we're 6-3 so far. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...=52912&st=0

I'm still shooting for the Central. This homestand is huge. We need to put the Angels away fast and show the Yankees and Detroit just who the defending World Champs are. We are only 7 losses in back of Detroit...that is not by any means insurmontable when we play them 10 times. We've won 6 out of 9 against them and if we put a whopping on them Friday, don't think for a second it won't be in their heads. If they start pressing against us and we take it head on, they'll start pressing against everyone else. They'll know they have to win those games cause they can't beat the Sox. It doesn't take that much to get a mental edge and once you have it half the battle is over. We need to get back to smacking them around. If we can take 7 out of the 10 from Detroit and I don't see why that's so unrealistic, then we can win the division. They will not fold without pressure, so we need to crank it up NOW!!

Alright peeps we need to turn around the bad mojo at the cell. We've lost 7 of the last 9 there, so it's time to reverse the trend and and get Mark his first W since June 27. This is the longest and biggest homestand of the year, so lets get back to the winning ways.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 02:05 PM) Pitching. And let's not act like this wouldn't be a good move. If Mack isn't subbing for Anderson then I'm cool with it. Just play Anderson 90% of the time. that's my two cents on managing the team. I'll leave the rest up to you guys.