Controlled Chaos

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Feb 12, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) Lindy Booth... Pizza girl...I think she was mentioned in here somewhere....

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 12, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) Well, we clearly do not agree. One thing to keep in mind, CC. The guy you responded to is not your best friend. You don't know him and he doesn't know you. You, or I, have absolutely no idea how he will take such a comment, how we might react to it, etc. So in the future, all I ask is you keep things like that to yourself, or make your intentions a bit more clear. Thank you for your insight. In the future, all I ask is you reference any derogatory comments you wish to attribute to someone. Sorry for the intrusion, back to your regularly scheduled thread everyone.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 12, 2010 -> 10:49 AM) Well, my favorite was your comment to the one poster that "maybe she will let you paint her nails next week" or whatever. We didn't start this thread so you could be a rude assface to someone looking for advice. And yes, I am posting in here in the hopes of actually helping people with their questions, not belittling them like some cocky relationship savant. I was being direct, and like I said, I would and have said the same thing to my best friend. I'm gonna tell it like it is and my comment wasn't to an advice question it was to "Haven't spoken for about a week and she finally started talking to me again. Which is a start in the right direction." I'm sorry I didn't lay his head on a pillow and brush his hair back saying...baby it's gonna be ok. It was a shock comment meant to open his eyes. It needs to be done when lust fogs things up. I explained it in the next post...to HIM, if he didn't want to listen he wouldn't. Who the hell are you anyway...I wasn't even talking to you. If you didn't like my approach you should have ignored it. You've talked s*** about me fantasizing about my sig or whatever, then said...I said, to treat women like s***. (BTW Thanks for finding that post. I guess you feel you can just make s*** up, put words in my mouth and not have to apologize.) I have in fact said the exact opposite with regards to the treatment of women. Now you're calling me an assface and saying I'm belittling people like some cocky relationship savant. You've made some pretty direct and personal comments to me and you're a mod??? I was trying to help and have pretty much just been giving advice, sans 1 smart ass comment which was said with a purpose. You make it seem as if all I've been doing is ripping on people. Relationship savant....please...I have like 6 posts in here you hypocrite.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 11, 2010 -> 11:01 PM) I wasn't talking to you. I quoted your post, because you were contributing to this ridiculous notion. And oh, I know, you're not looking for advice here, you're here to try and be the man to a bunch of 22 year olds by telling them how to treat women like s***. Coming from the guy with more posts in here then anyone. Not sure why you have such a hard on for me, maybe it's that pursue until you ultimately convince someone thing, but anyways, since you obviously do...maybe you can point out where I ever said treat women like s***. Go find my post and paste it here.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 11, 2010 -> 04:20 PM) You have no idea the opportunities you are passing up by not being friends with attractive women...they travel in packs! I have many attractive women that are very good friends of mine. Once you get over the fact that you slept together and it's not going to happen again, it's fine (or that you will never sleep together at all). There are far too many women out there to avoid being friends with one because she is attractive. Jesus, jerk off before you go out with her if you need to. Dude, I'm married...have been for over 5 years. I'm not here looking for advice. Anyway, I never said anything about avoiding attractive women. I said I agreed with him in avoiding being friends with a girl you're attracted to. I took that as you like this chick and she doesn't like you so ya settle to be just friends. I would avoid that there's no benefit.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 11, 2010 -> 03:11 PM) to each his own. I was very good friends with my wife before we became romantically involved. I kinda ignored the first line and took him to kinda mean the line towards the end more than the first..."I personally couldn't just be friends with someone I was attracted to." He can correct me if I'm wrong.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Feb 11, 2010 -> 02:24 PM) My philosophy on this topic is that you shouldn't be friends with a woman, at all. Woman are just as afraid of commitment as we are. They just won't admit it. Especially college age women. When I was single (so long ago), I had no desire to just be friends with any woman. Like I've said before, the odds are in our favor. If you are at least a decent guy, you are like a left handed pitcher with good control and can get guys out. Woman outnumber us dramatically. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody, I'm just being general here...we all need to be men. It seems that men born over the last 35 years don't know how to be men. A woman wants a man, if you're not a man, she will control every aspect of whatever relationship you may be in with her. There's no need to fear rejection, go for what you want. If she is not interested or on the same page, move on. Always be on the same page with a woman, or you will not be happy. But, by all means, do not let a woman control you. She's the one who should fear losing a decent guy. I'm not saying any woman is replaceable, but if she isn't "the one," then she is. I personally couldn't just be friends with someone I was attracted to. It's not cool. Now, if you are in a "friends with benefits" situation, enjoy the ride. As long as that is what you want. I've been happily married to a woman for 5 1/2 years, we treat each other as equals and partners and we wanted the same thing out of life. well said.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 10, 2010 -> 09:38 AM) I can point out at least one instance in my life where just being mean/ignoring a girl, who initially shut me down, worked. You can't paint with such a broad brush. I never said it doesn't work...I just wouldn't go that route. If you like a girl...why would you want to be mean to her? As for ignoring...or acting oblivious to her, I agree it works. I think you can paint this wall of women with a broad brush, even a roller, but when it comes to painting the corners you'll need a plethora of brushes to get the job done. The chicks hanging at the edges are all over the place.

QUOTE (chwhtsox @ Feb 9, 2010 -> 09:06 PM) The worse you treat a woman the more she'll want you. Nice guys finish last, always. This doesn't mean you have the green light to smack the s*** out of her. It's a very fine line that should only be walked by an experienced ***hole. This is helpful for the next time. You won't be able to pull it off now because she knows you too well. Being an ***hole won't come off as natural at this point, it will seem forced and backfire on you. For now, be the rebound guy. Be the shoulder she can cry on and once the moment is right, take full advantage of the situation. At this point you're just trying to get whatever you can. meh....yes and no. But this does go back to the simple point of if a girl likes you...she likes you, even if you're an asshole. But being an asshole isn't really the way to go, as much as just being confident and not easy. Women like a bit of a challenge. So if she likes you and you're kind of oblivious to that and just go on your normal way...she will like you even more. For some guys it just comes natural, for others they have to force themselves to be a little, less energetic about the situation. Most men can't do this...cause just the thought of getting sum, instantly turns them into a sycophantic tool with a preferred card at the closest flower and candy store. Chill out, if she likes you...she liked you as you...not the pushover you think you need to become.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 9, 2010 -> 01:35 PM) Says the guy fantasizing about the washed-up B movie actress in photoshopped White Sox gear. 1. Stay out of my fantasies. 2. How dare you!!!!!!!! Anyway, I'm trying to help open his eyes. I would say the same thing to my best friend if he told me "she finally started talking to me again". Then I would slap him in the face and say WAKE THE f*** UP! soxfan: you just told a girl you've known for 4 years you liked her. She told you she needed time to process this. Here's the scoop: She didnt. She knows you already...you're not new to her...You have a history. In fact, I guarantee she has already thought about being with you and you either got the thumbs up or down. Anyway, she proceeded to not talk to you for what like 7 days??? That's f***ed up in and of itself, but if the first words out of her mouth weren't giving you some insight as to what her feelings are...then she has none. The process time was trying to figure out how to tell you. Unless, you left something out, there is nothing to be confused about here. I'm sorry dude.

QUOTE (soxman352000 @ Feb 9, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) Haven't spoken for about a week and she finally started talking to me again. Which is a start in the right direction. awwww good for you. Maybe in another week, you can paint her nails or something.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 9, 2010 -> 09:08 AM) Awesome, now they are upset that the commercial wasn't radical enough Unbelievable. Not to mention...where the heck does CBS hype up an ad or talk about it's content. The only thing I see from the network is The network said it has approved the script for the 30-second ad and has given no indication that the protest would have an impact. A network spokesman, Dana McClintock, said CBS would ensure that any issue-oriented ad was "appropriate for air." The other s*** is from a blogger who was giving background on the ad. This is the problem with everyone jumping to conclusions about something you had no clue about. The pro abortion crowd, not pro choice crowd, flipped over the idea of the ad...without knowing a thing. Oh there might be an ad that celebrates life...lets raise hell!! Then the ad celebrates life and it's....we were duped, who can we blame!!! GMAFB.

If you're into 24 and on facebook. Friend request Annie Wersching, she posts lots of behind the scenes stuff.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 11:01 AM) <!--quoteo(post=2082486:date=Feb 8, 2010 -> 09:34 AM:name=Athomeboy_2000)-->QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 09:34 AM) <!--quotec-->Next year the SB is in Dallas, so it will be a country act. THe year after it is in Indy and John Mellencamp seems like a logical choice as he is from there. I don't know if there is any correlation between location and acts. List of halftime acts I looked up halftime shows yesterday during the game and the wiki showed Barry Manilow and Neil Sedaka doing next years. I googled Neil Sedaka and when I went back to the wiki it was gone. Lets hope it was a prank, because if thats real..they should just cancel halftime all together. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super..._halftime_shows

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 7, 2010 -> 12:21 PM) THAT IS f***ING UNBELIEVABLE! She should have just used a teleprompter to read a speech written for her.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) Oh wow...a double with plyo is insane....gotta hand it to you on that one... I did yoga tonight and felt like a complete slacker because I shut it off after the basic balance poses. Anyone have luck on copying these dvd?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 02:40 AM) All I can say is, seek out some very happily married couples, and ask them how they met, how their first few dates went. Just as you are saying this isn't the movies where a guy chases a woman for months and months, I can counter with the same thing. This isn't the movies where everyone falls in love at "first sight." People simply aren't always that good at understanding what qualities will attract them to someone else. People fall in love after knowing eachother for a time, or after struggling through a few dates....it happens in all different manner of ways. Just ask an older married couple....I guarantee you that you will hear some doozies... Who's talking about love?? I agree love happens over time and I don't believe in love at first site either. It's lust at first site...to fully love someone you need to know them. I'm talking about liking someone or them liking you 'that way'. I'm talking about asking a girl out or expressing you're feelings. If a girl is into you...you will know. If she has an excuse, e.g., not ready, don't want to ruin our friendship, I need time to think...etc...MOVE ON. It really is that simple. Guys get this thing in their head...she is the only one...I can get her. Forget it....she doesn't want to be 'got' by you, if she did...you'd be together. So you can go on pursuing...and she may even like that a lil bit, but she's still searching for the "one" and you're second fiddle. She may even give you some play after her search hits a dry spell...but is that what you're waiting for??? Her to finally give in and give you a chance due to a lack of options??? The fact is, she still wants that guy that makes her giddy. That guy, that she doesn't have to think for more than one second...'I like him' You weren't that guy...you'll never be that guy...so don't waste your time. Forget about trying to convince her to like you, even if you finally succeed, it will be because she is settling for you. Forget the line..."I'll be here whenever you're ready" MOVE ON. Have some self respect...There is a girl out there for you and she won't have to weigh her options before liking you. Now I'm not talking about a girl playing hard to get....although I would stay away from those games, but even that girl...you'll know if she likes you or not and if you should bother with it.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 02:01 PM) Well then I hope you feel great inside when some women in similar circumstances decide to follow Pam Tebow's lead by ignoring sound medical advice and wind up dead. ok.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) I wonder if the ad will mention that Mrs Tebow did not have a choice in the first place since abortion was and I believe still is illegal in the Philippines. ah yes, Gloria Alred claims she will lodge a complaint with the FCC and FTC "if this ad airs and fails to disclose that abortions were illegal at the time Ms. Tebow made her choice," Amazing.... BTW, Seventy percent of unwanted pregnancies in the Philippines end in abortion said Jean-Marc Olivé, the country representative of the World Health Organization. I also suppose Ms Tebow could have came to the US for an abortion....but grasp grasp grasp.

You tell a girl you like her, she doesn't like you - MOVE ON. Don't look back. You're friends with a girl, you decide you want more, she doesn't like you 'that way' - MOVE ON. Friendship is over for a bit. You're dating a girl, she breaks up with you - MOVE ON. Don't look back. Obviously some of this depends on the seriousness and length of relationship, but Don't talk to her, talk about her, or ask to hear about her. If you see her...say Hi...don't be an ass, be civil, but be short and move on. Forget the lets be friends and talk all the time thing. Be friendly when you see each other, but find someone else to hang out with. You really can't get over someone if you're always seeing them. Look gentlemen it isn't that difficult. You shouldn't have to 'convince' a girl to like you. This isn't the movies....where the girl says NO and the guy chases and chases the girl and she finally falls madly in love with him. If she likes you, the interest is there from the beginning. She may be unsure about being in a relationship or afraid of getting hurt or whatever...but as far as 'liking' you....if she has to think about that??? GTFO! Tell her you like her, let her marinate the thought for a few days or a week, if she comes back and isn't interested...then take her at her word and move on. Not to call out iamshack at all, but this "The stories are quite often about a guy who kept pursuing a woman until he ultimately convinced her to marry him. And those are some of the strongest couples around" I just don't see as the case.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) What percentage of abortions are we talking about where the mother is actually in danger? Here's the percentages the article gives: Burkina Faso, a 2003 review of 177 abrupted pregnancies reported a maternal death rate of 4 percent. In Pakistan, a 2009 review of 106 cases found a maternal death rate of 5 percent.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 2, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) LINK? Weird for the author to site that it kills thousands of fetuses when the alternative is abortion. There's a 12% chance your baby will die, but I have a solution...

HIMYM. The perfect week.

Buehrle - http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5699295 get chills everytime.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) Valparaiso Okahumpka