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QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 12:39 PM) Looks like Ozzie controls his family as good as he manages the Sox. Hopefully he blurts out another sexual/racial epithet and we can just fire him. He's a stupid human being who shouldn't hold a management position for the rest of his life. A stupid human being? My god. I disagree.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) Eh... I hope you're wrong. Apparently Steve Stone is saying that something big might happen this week. Hate to say it, but it's too late. Might as well ride it out with what we've got and regroup in the winter again.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) Because he constantly defends Ozzie, too? I'm not sure why everyone can't see that Ozzie has made a lot of bad managerial decisions this year. The arguments of late regarding the injuries to Putz and Thornton have me scratching my head. Regardless of the number of pitches Thornton threw, he is not a 2+ inning pitcher. I'm not saying that caused his injury, but it certainly didn't help. All in all, there is way too much sniping going on here lately. There are too many posters just waiting for someone else to post something they can argue about. Discussions and disagreements are fine, that's what makes this site fun. But to call each other stupid or clueless or other inflammatory words is getting old. Take it easy guys. Yes, our team sucks right now, but let's not take it out on each other. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) No I wouldn't. There are plenty of times games get played when people don't expect it. If our technology was so great, than why are weather men wrong quite often. The fact of the matter is, while you have info to predict, you don't know for sure what might happen and when you are told to start the game, you start it. Ozzie and every other manager in baseball would do it. At this point, you are just second guessing to second guess. I agree about the sniping. It's been a bad bad season for soxtalk message boards. As far as the weather, guys, trust me on this one. KC has had the threat of pop up storms the past month. It's been 100 every day and we are getting storms. On the last homestand we had several downpours 40 minutes from Kauffman and Kauffman ultimately got nothing. There's no way Oz can play God and predict the weather and f***ing start Linebrink because he's convinced the game will be called. Blame thje modern p**** handling of pitchers that Jackson could not be used in the DH. Don't blame Oz for starting him because he should have known there ultimately was going to be a rainout. That's just stupid in my book. The game started and we are in a part of the country where storms come and go. They are UNPREDICTABLE.

Nice post, Fathom. We are five out. The race is pretty much over if it gets to 7. We got off life support once before this season; can't see it happening twice. We are down on an 8 count. Just two counts to go. If we fall seven back I hope we bring up Viciedo and Flowers and play them and give Sale some starts. Maybe even give Pena more starts and see if he's a starter. He's been a pretty mediocre reliever. Just release Linebrink. Eat the money, White Sox. We can let Kotsay's contract run out, but Linebrink should really depart.

Fair analysis. But all teams are tired now. Gotta suck it up.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 04:56 AM) Which he had done before. Is it written somewhere that he'll spontaneously combust at 3 innings? I'll ask again, who should have pitched? Linebrink? I wouldn't trust Linebrink to pitch in my softball league. At that point, it was a huge game. You leave your best (and at the only time only decent) reliever in there. Starters go on 3 days rest in big games, sometimes a reliever has to step up and go. I'm just sick of the absolutes on this forum. "well if he took him out before, he doesn't get injured" "if he pinch hits there we win the game". Buncha bulls***. If Thornton doesn't throw those extra 3 devastating pitches he doesn't get hurt? Stupid. If Putz doesn't throw 2 more pitches his knee doesn't get hurt? Bulls***. Normal injuries don't f***ing work like that. If he got hit in the head with a line drive, then you could maybe say that, not if its a normal "wear and tear" injury that would have happened the next time out. Jenky Cat is becoming my idol.

At least in that situation it was so late in the game you simply bunt him over, get the hit and win. Hitters are so s***ty they couldn't get the hit against a crap team.

Minnie just played an amazingly clean game on TV in a shutout of the Angels. Minnie is so good with limited talent it's scary.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 02:55 AM) Oh look Kenny has a fan that has a twitter account. OneyRoberto Isn't he the guy who got fired. Oney is just trying to get even, right?

I dunno. Obviously second guessing the bunt tonight is a reasonable criticism since we lost. I just think in Oz's mind it was a no brainer. Man on, tie game, bunt him over, get the hit, we go home happy unless we can't close it out. Pierre might have stole second on oldtimer Kendall. Then we bunt him to third. Oz could have taken that gamble on the steal. It's fair criticism but it's also fair to say the bunt is a decent percentage play with nobody out.

at least he woke up though and got the triple today. Though after that he took an 0-fer his last four at bats.

Cause there was nobody out. You bunt him over and knock him in and all is well. The second guessing starts when you don't knock him in.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 08:11 PM) Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah blah blah - blah blah, blah!! Blah... Blah. We could write your response to any post. Guess this topic didn't interest you. He brought up some good points and asked a few reasonable questions. Rios is off limits of criticism to many. I applaud Fathom for ripping him regularly of late.

How many outs were there when Blanco stole? If Ned Yost was our manager he wouldn't last a week on here either. He'd be buried. The bunt was the right call. Execution was poor. We can't get a clutch hit on the road.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 09:18 PM) Sweet Lou would look awesome as our skipper next season. QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 01:26 AM) I'd mark the loss today on Ozzie. He bunted us out of every inning at the end of the ballgame. Bunting with Pierre on first remains indefensible. I assume the first post was in green. The big league hitters don't get any blame for inability to get a clutch hit after bunting the guy over? Why is bunting with Pierre on first indefensible? I think most every manager not named Earl Weaver in the late innings bunt there.

QUOTE (IceCreamPants @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 01:52 AM) I would love to hear your speech when you are carving a turkey for all the baseball players you are thankful for. *First and foremost I would like to be thankful for DeWayne* then *Dewayne smiles with fork in hand* I doubt you'd love to hear it. If you want I will list all the reasons I love Wise and Jenks. I'm afraid I might get a warning from a mod, however, if I do that. If you are serious and want me to list all the reasons I like Wise and Jenks and Dye and AJ, I'll be glad to go through it all again.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 23, 2010 -> 01:30 AM) Juan Pierre is leading the damn league in stolen bases. Omar Vizquel might be one of the best bant control guys in the history of the game, and we call for a bunt EVERY SINGLE TIME. That's Ozzieball, for you. What's wrong with bunting the winning run over with nobody out in a tie game in the late innings? A: Nothing. Almost every manager would do that especially with Vizquel batting. If Pierre steals and gets thrown out you'd all want Ozzie's job for that as well.

That was the worst stretch of being a sports fan in my life. It was pure agony. Also exciting, but very agonizing. This team is acting a lot like last year's team. That road trip where we got our ass handed to us by NY, Boston and I think it was Minnie last year was really s***ty. Really pissed me off. This team just doesn't have it.

Balta's thoughts are mine exactly. We know your speech when you are carving the turkey. You've printed it for us here. But it was a nice post nonetheless I guess.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) I love it. Who the f*** would have pitched? Who did you trust in the pen THEN (i.e. not Sale). Who? Linebrink? He was going for the win and it failed, I'd take Thornton with 15 pitches going into the inning over anyone else in the 'pen that night. Thornton threw 18 pitches and it didn't even sniff his longest outing of the season. Please find some other random occurrence to b**** about with Ozzie. Amen brotha. You are my kind of poster.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 09:23 PM) You should never make enemies with the people who can decide your fate. Unfortunately, Ozzie's not that smart when it comes to that stuff. Sorry for the three threads in a row but I was just reading the game thread. All this criticism of Ozzie for stuff like this is insane IMO. If he didn't argue or rip umpires then people would say he doesn't stand up for his players. You know why we lost today? We couldn't get a clutch hit late when we got the guy to second base. f***ing Linebrink walked the guy. How many times have walks come around to KILL US? He walks the fastest guy on the Royals who gets to third base in a hurry and scores on the bloop. Linebrink may be the most overpaid employee in the history of employees. But as far as you ripping Ozzie for ripping on umpires???? All good managers speak up EVERY TIME they think their players are wronged.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 09:41 PM) And this season is OVA!!! You might be right, but I don't know if it was you or 15 other people who wrote the same thing in May. This game is OVA and this season is OVA are simplistic statements of opinion, not fact.

I knew we were in trouble the minute somebody said before the first game, "it will be a bitter diappointment if we don't sweep." Yes I am superstitious and yes I knew we were going to lose the series after somebody said that. What is our record against the AL Central? We don't sweep Central teams on the road, except when we are in a once in a lifetime 25-5 stretch.

Gotta run; it's 3:30 sunday and got to go somewhere; hope we win.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 22, 2010 -> 08:30 PM) Greg, so you agree with the continued use of bunting as well as numerous outs on the bases? Yes with man on in eighth and none out, why not bunt him over? Then you have 2 chances for clutch hit.