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I love Hawk but announcers who go there deserve the short suspensions they often get. Why? Because the PC police is out there ready to nail any public figure that says anything like Hawk did. He just didn't need to go there. Just rail on and on, but don't defy the new PC laws if you are an announcer or public figure of any kind. So many examples of guys getting suspended for offending the PC police.

To the folks who voted no, like I did. ... If they moved to the suburbs you'd be OK though, right? I'd be OK with that because the new Cell isn't all that special and never will be. If they moved out of state, what would be the point? If they were the North Carolina White Sox? I'd be disgusted with the owners and frankly hope they lose every game.

If the team moved to a suburb or downtown or Champaign? Sure. I'd be a Sox fan. If the team moved out of state, no f***ing way.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 09:49 PM) That Rush stuff is awful even for him. Also seems like a bigger stretch than usual. That truly was weak. Great point. I'm done with Rush Limbaugh after this. What's he thinking about talking about Robin Williams the leftist. The man just died. WTF. Now today it's reported Williams had early stages of Parkinson. Rush is such an ass. It's like he didn't even consider the depression Robin Williams had. Moron.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 10:22 PM) One of the many reasons I think the biggest priority for the next commissioner, outside of the labor agreement, is speeding up the pace of baseball. Drop replay, put in some serious regulations to increase the action / speed. IIRC, the length of a baseball game today vs. 40 years ago is significantly longer. I'm sure part of that is commercial breaks (although those existed back in the day too). However, since 1970, the average baseball game has increased by approximately 30 minutes (from roughly 2.5 hr's to almost 3hr's). There are also more pitching changes now, I'm going to presume, then 30 or 40 years ago, however, I'd go to more extreme's to limit the amount of pitches and the total amount of time you can take during pitching changes and also potentially alter rules for mound visits in an inning. Maybe truly cap it at 1 per inning vs. current rules which can allow multiple in an inning (presuming the 2nd time you visit each pitcher you are pulling them). Great great post. The sixth inning on is often brutal in baseball! Also the superstitious hitters (yes, Paulie included) who have to go through the ritual where they unstrap the batting gloves then re-strap them, etc. I think the rule is you can't step out of the box once you are in it. If that's true, stay in the box! Also pitchers take way too long to deliver a pitch and that is against rules as well. Finally the umps won't call the strike zone correctly and haven't for 15 years.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:51 PM) Royals might be a team of destiny. Jarrod Dyson lost a ball in the sun, which ended up allowing 2 runs to score for the A's...and lost the lead, 3-2. Escobar laid down a perfect bunt and Samardzija threw the ball down the line but he was inside the baseline and ruled out instead of ending up on 2nd base. Then Dyson has an 0-2 count in the bottom of the 7th against All-Star Ryan Cook and shot one through the hole to tie it....Aoki (11 RBI's this month) ripped a triple down the line, scoring two more runs. Note: Abad's also been amazing for the A's. Already stranded 21 baserunners this season, something not done since Randy Myers in 1984. He K'ed Gordon, but then Billy Butler hit a single to RCF and Escobar ended up scoring all the way from 1B on a two-out single. So the score is 7-3 in the top of the 8th. At least three 0-2 count RBI's in this series, 7 steals...have beaten the A's now two series in a row, and have won 7 consecutive series, including a couple of four gamers. 16-4 over the last twenty if they win today. The best part for KC. They go on a 9 game road trip to Minnesota (4 games), Colorado (2 games) and Texas (3 games). Three last place teams. Meanwhile, the Tigers have the Mariners and Scherzer just threw today. Wade Davis might be the best middle reliever in all of baseball right now, along with Cook/Abad. 5,300 walk up attendance on the first day of school in Kansas City area for many students. Aoki getting hot has saved them; also addition by subtraction with Hosmer out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 10:10 PM) If the conventional wisdom is that all of these guys suck and need to be dumped, why is it assumed that somehow someone else wants them? It definitely shouldn't be assumed. I was thinking the only possibility would be to pay almost all their remaining salaries.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 09:37 PM) I'm not a broadcaster. Talk to people about baseball now, everyone thinks it's a boring old mans game. Stuff like this just confirms it. It's crazy how baseball's popularity has dipped so much. I'm thinking it has something to do with parents in the last 2 generations. They've protected little Johnny so much that parental fear has taken away the sandlot games some played in neighborhoods as youths. We used to play baseball, wiffleball and softball and fastpitch rubber ball against the wall (at Mt. Greenwood school), every single day during the summer on 103rd and Homan or Trumbull. The sewer caps were the bases. Like the cliche says, if the ball went in one old lady's yard it was tough to get back. But no parents were ever there when we played, and kids fell in love with baseball. Organized baseball was the icing on the cake when we hit Little League age. Now? I can see why kids would hate it with parents dragging them to organized games with uniforms at the age of 6. With lack of much practice time, and kids not developing skills on their own in the neighborhoods because of unreasonable fear of kidnappers/predators, I'm sure those organized games with parents are no fun at all and quite boring. So baseball is boring to many kids I'm sure. And guess what protective parents? One year some kid threw his bat when I was catcher it hit me in the head and I needed five stitches after running home bleeding everywhere and crying. It ended the games that day, but did parents make us stop playing? Hell no. Nowadays there'd be a neighborhood meeting decrying poor Johnny who got hit in the head and parents must supervise all games at all times!

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 06:18 PM) Sept. will be overcrowded with all the guys we'll want to look at, on top of Paulie's farewell AB's. We're just not going to get the sufficient looks we should at guys like Wilkins, Semien and Sanchez particularly. ST basically provides bad data and tells little if anything. This is the chance to give guys looks at MLB pitchers who are actually competing - and we're blowing it. Beckham and Dunn needed to be gone already on Aug 1. Hell, Dunn has homered in back to back games and has a 828 OPS vs. righties, and is still, apparently, immovable. If it hasn't happened yet, why would it now? It would have been nice for us hardcore fans to get a look at possible pieces of the future, but no such luck. Patience is waning. This sucks. Next year needed to begin on July 31st. It didn't, and the fail continues... Great points. Don't know what Hahn can do except pay almost all their salaries for the rest of the season to the team that might take a flier on Dunn or Beckham.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:24 PM) I have gotten so tired of Hawk the last few years and like the writer, I too have a young daughter. That being said, I am having a really hard time finding any issue or getting upset with Hawk's comment. I'm not mad at it either or have no real issue with it. I think if he worked for ESPN, though, he'd have been suspended by now for a few days.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:13 PM) You know who else was a good closer for the White Sox? Sergio Santos. The Sox did the same exact thing, and the exact same thing has happened. Even still, I'd prefer to have Nestor Molina at this point in time, given the contract and prospect status, over Sergio Santos. He acquired guys with talent, and those guys with talent have either gotten injured or have underperformed their talent level. Write them off and move on. I have no problem with that whatsoever. Actual "consistent" middle relievers cost a lot of money and they do not win you a lot of games. If you have a bad team, you are paying guys $7-10 mill a year to come in to preserve 5-4 losses. That's not a smart business move. It's better to do that when you can at least have a good team for these bullpens to work for. Good post. I guess the question is ... when do you decide you have a "good" team and thus want to pay for some good relievers? There's also no guarantee paying a guy means he's good (Thornton in his later years). I hope one of these years the no name bullpen clicks and is reliable. It's insane to blow all these leads.

QUOTE (MEANS @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:08 PM) Seriously, he said nothing wrong. I do worship Hawk in all ways, but yes he did (in today's climate) say something wrong. He said the thing about skirts, which implies women can't get after it and compete hard in sports, certainly not near as hard as men.

In this particular day and age, he probably should be suspended a game. But I sincerely doubt Hawk has anything against women's sports and athletes. Isn't he generally regarded as a great guy? Not a prick by any means. But in this day and age you can't go there, you can't offend anybody by race, gender, sexual orientation, so he probably should have to sit a game.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) I think this was a great article from Vox speaking with the former Seattle chief of police (WTO protests era) http://www.vox.com/2014/8/14/6002451/fergu...ttle/in/5757650 Excellent interview. Thanks. It makes me think about here. Tax dollars will build the cops a huge new headquarters. We are supposed to be in this together. Then you see the incident in Ferguson and want to say, "f*** you and your headquarters."

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) OK, then I agree the snipers and whatnot was overkill. Still though, with reports of shootings, not sure I'd be comfortable sending cops out with just riot shields and batons. Maybe something in between that and full-scale military get up. How do you feel about them rounding up and arresting aldermen and ministers and keeping them all night when they did nothing wrong? These cops were scary bad last night. I was thinking the other day about how minorities have the right to be upset about getting pulled over for no reason by cops (has nothing to do with this case). Sometimes I get pulled over because I leave work at 1 a.m. and it's a college town and they are looking for drunks. They'll say I was driving erratically or something. They are looking for drunks and have always let me go with no ticket since I don't drink and I tell them where I was, etc., and they realize I'm not drunk, but it is annoying. What do you guys think about cops pulling people over for no reason?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) Nate Jones has horrible mechanics and no control... Lindstrom sucks too! Oh, forgot, Downs and Belisario suck as well. 85% of the team sucks. Why can't we be like the Royals, who always beat the White Sox with Chen and Guthrie. Oh, by the way, Adam Dunn sucks. Paulie and Ozzie rule. Any member of the 2005 White Sox....should have their own statue on the concourse. (Even Joe Borchard.) I'm not the only guy who rinses and repeats. The reason I reply is somebody makes a controversial point, usually for the 10th time as well. I also get sick of seeing Hahn get a free pass so I bring up Reed. I hate seeing Paulie get ripped when Dunn doesn't (by many) so I praise Paulie and blast Dunn mostly in response to others. I don't like the Royals BTW. Since they haven't won anything in 25 years and I live around here I wouldn't mind seeing them do the playoff thing this year. As far as whether I'd root for them if they make it, not actively. I'll observe it. I've never rooted for the Royals, not once. The Chen thing bothers me greatly. I'm not cheering it. Can't see how he can take the mound and dominate the White Sox 90 percent of the time when he can't get anybody else out. It amazes me one team has been responsible for his MLB paycheck.

The alderman, Antonio French, who was arrested for no reason and released today without bail and paperwork (cause he did nothing wrong and was simply let free), tweeted this: "Ferguson police chief promises a change in tactics tonight. Promises less aggressive, militaristic approach." Well, no s***. The police were way out of line and immediately promise to change. But without the president and governor and other people getting involved, they'd have kept acting the way they were acting. This on a small scale, shows the mob mentality can take over a police force as well as a community. I think it indeed shows what can happen when police run amok. It's kind of scary. Makes u wonder what this means in the big picture for the future regarding citizens vs. cops.

I like the response today from Obama and others. I know the media situation is a minor part of this issue, but just watching the video of the asshole cop arresting the media member in a McDonald's showed me a lot of what I needed to know of how the cops have been behaving. It was the middle of a sunny day, there was no threat and the cop was yelling at some media guy telling him to go out the door. The guy was unplugging his computer and phone and trying to get out as fast as he could. Cop kept yelling at him, which is ridiculous. So the media member goes the way he's supposed to get out and the cop throws him against a coke machine and the guy drops his s***. So the media member writes what happened. On the way to the police station, the reporter tells the cop, "You will be on the front page of the Washington Post tomorrow." The cop says, "You'll be in my jail cell tonight." Of course the media member was let free as soon as the police chief found out what happened. You can't make up the rules and throw teargas at media to get them to stop filming. You can't throw teargas at people behind a fence in their own yards when they are not armed or doing anything bad. I hope there are repercussions and mass firings. It shows you how people can be in mob mentality, yet so can police. They also need to speed it up and arrest that cop who killed the kid if it looks like the cop killed an unarmed person in cold blood. The cop can get his day in court. And I'm sick of incorrect things being reported on Twitter. Were there 3 black cops on that police force or 25 percent? Somebody is printing the wrong name of the cop who did the killing? That's insane and dangerous. More than EVER, we can't believe half of what is written or reported anywhere. P.S. My final point is: The cops have been totally in the wrong the past couple days regarding the protests and have been total bullies and everybody at the top MUST be fired soon for the behavior of their troops.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 04:36 AM) The presence of a few non-peaceful protesters throwing some rocks or bottles does not justify the response and the demands of the police here. They are indiscriminately tear gasing people, including the media and residential neighborhoods. They are arresting members of the media for taking pictures of the police. They have been attempting to push media out of the city all together. Their first announcement before the latest round of tear gassing was a demand that everyone turn off their video cameras. And this is all in response to a community reaching the breaking point after the police gun down an unarmed 18 year old kid, shooting him in the back and letting him rot on the pavement for hours and then refusing to explain themselves. The police response tonight was horrendous. There should be some mass firings, starting with the police chief. You can't arrest reporters for doing nothing wrong. You can't throw teargas at a media crew. That's the media part of this. Also, you can't throw teargas in neighborhoods when the people aren't doing anything violent. What's more the cop who killed that kid has to be charged with murder and tried. It's just the way it is. You can't kill an unarmed person and not at least be tried for the crime. That cop should be charged soon. But will he be??

I don't know why some of you guys aren't more mad at Hahn for the Addison Reed thing. I mean it's inexcusable to trade away a good closer (a proven closer for those of you who don't think he was good) when you have no closer candidates in the current organization. It's pretty bad GM'ing I think. You know, he did acquire some pieces in putting together his version of a bullpen. It's not like he didn't try. He just failed. That's what makes me shake my head at you guys giving him a free pass. He thought he was building a bullpen, but he failed miserably. It's just plain ridiculous to see all these bullpen implosions. If I was a season ticket holder, I'd surely be mad.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 04:08 AM) msnbc reporter Trymaine Lee reporting that the police had a sniper on top of a vehicle aiming his weapon into the crowd The national media has to be scrambling getting its people to Ferguson now. Wonder if they are using the local affiliates. Looks like this is one city in the U.S. with a lot of mean-spirited Barney Fifes running around.

They need to clean house at the Ferguson police department. They are firing rubber bullets and gas at crowds for no reason and telling people to stop filming? This is a police state. Obama should get his ass there and hold an immediate meeting with f***ing cops and kick some ass. Get some people fired ASAP. I mean this is unacceptable. At the minimum, if I'm Obama I get on the phone with the police chief and tell him to get his act together NOW.

This is really an ugly mess. I do not think cops should be able to spray tear gas on people who are in their own yards. Use some common sense, police. I mean the minute the resident tries to climb the fence to approach the police, OK. But this is excessive bulls***. Also, the cops do appear to have committed a heinous act in killing this un-armed college kid. People have a right to be outraged.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) ... But there are other players who could have provided more value to the Sox. Well, yes, you are correct there. Many other players could have provided more value to the Sox. But you are talking about a team with L. Garcia as a key reserve. This team has a ton of unfilled holes. It's not like the Sox have a bunch of prospects being held back by Paulie digging in at the plate and shrugging his shoulders once in a while. QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 08:57 PM) Ya see, I can't see how you can bash Dunn like you do and say that. He's been sad the last 2 years, and years from now I will choose to forget his last 2 years. I apologize sort of ... for blasting Dunn so much. He has hit some meaningful home runs. He has. Like today's gave the Sox a 1-0 lead. That's meaningful. I will admit Dunn has won some games and had some hits that have meant something. But his entire tenure has defined losing. Not all his fault, of course, but when I think of Big Adam, I think of losing and strikeouts. I should try to think more about the big hits he's had, cause he's had some, no question. ... I simply love Paulie however. I can't help myself in that regard and I get upset when I feel that others are bashing him. QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 09:03 PM) He is here to sell tshirts and bobbleheads. He'll, the sox have giveaways every game in September for him! Great post. I need to buy something Paulie related myself. How much is an extra large jersey (hey I'm 6-foot-2 and 200 so I need an extra large).

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 09:58 PM) Absolutely, I have no idea why he keeps pitching in the spots he does. Webb has been much better this year, at least give him some high leverage spots. Ugh. Webb is as bad as the rest of them. I kind of know what you are saying since Bella is the flavor is so bad he makes you want to pick up a bat, but re-think your position please. Webb is horrific as well. QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) 13 runs in last 8 games for the Sox. The play at home will overshadow the fact the offense has gone ice cold. I posted this in the Abreu thread, but it will be interesting to see if he even hits 40 homers now. You've said it before. You've pointed out that Sox really don't have many elite hitters at all. Less than a handful of good hitters and the rest mediocre to poor. So we shouldn't be surprised. Get to work with a better master plan, Mr. Hahn. Avi Garcia come on down!!!