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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) Danks has absolutely gone into the tank over the last month. I think Ptatc is on to something with some fatigue issues either causing bad mechanics or overthrowing to make up for it. He hasn't be mechanically right for a while now. Then shut him down. Team is beyond horrible and out of it. Rest him for next year. I am all for winning as many games as possible, but he's had a nice comeback season. Shut him down. QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 08:15 PM) I don't know why you're so concerned about the payroll. Hahn will add guys he thinks are going to be good value, and will pay what he's comfortable with paying. That might be signing 4 big free agents or just trading for some guys. Trying to get the payroll up to match someone's paradigm of "trying to be competitive" is really dumb, IMO. The payroll will NOT be a good measurement of this team's direction or how successful its offseason was. Lot of fans think about payroll and only payroll when thinking about players. It's insane, because who cares how much Reinsdorf spends? As we've said, it's not like a 50 million dollar payroll will mean they will lower parking costs, etc. I am in theory against paying any player big bucks, but at the same time I like seeing Jerry get hit where it hurts, the pocketbook.

Someday they are going to finally change the name and we can get on with proper respect to the American Indian. I love the fact many newspapers and announcers won't use Redskins. They only will put "the team from Washington." I'm not offended by Ditka. It's neat he is ripping the PC police, but he's wrong here. You can't call a team Redskins. In fact, I'd make the Cleveland Indians change, too. WTF?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:54 AM) Just to continue the predictability, for both me and him, 4 for his last 36 (.111) with a walk and 13 strikeouts It's crazy how bad he is again after that streak of Babe Ruth-ism.

Sox need to acquire all players named Chen in MLB and minor league baseball. And check for Chens available on the foreign market.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 09:20 PM) I think that next year the team finishes .500 or around .500. I think that Hahn is going to make some more moves to improve the team like last offseason. He has to bolster the bullpen up, improve the catching position and get a left handed bat in the middle of the line up. I would also like to see 2 RHP in the starting rotation but that is a want, not a need. I fully expect the Sox to finish below Minnesota which means last place 2 years in a row. That is unacceptable. If the Sox finish last again next year, I'd clean house. No more Kenny. No more Hahn. And beg Jerry to sell. You can't tell me the Sox should be finishing fricking last 3 straight years. And what's more, nobody is the front office is calling it a rebuild, right? They are denying we are rebuilding. Last place must be a thing of the past starting next year!

Quiet tonight so far in Ferguson but there have been arrests. I wonder when the media will send their people home. Probably after the funeral of Mike Brown next Monday. They can't stay there forever.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 09:31 PM) What we need to do is get out of the region for good. They want to continue living like it's 1200 BC, go for it. See ya later. That's not a bad take. Those f***ers are truly living B.C. Great post.

Why not just change it to Washington Pigskins? Just sayin ... You still get 'Skins. And pigskin is a funny term for a football.

I think most Sox fans would welcome a trade or two to keep September interesting. My question to the people who might know: Have any lousy teams like the Sox thruout history made some Aug/September trades that acquire key pieces for the future? I mean trades past the trade deadline? It would be nice to see the Sox start acquiring some good bullpen pieces for next year and also start getting rid of lousy players like DeAza, Viciedo, Beckham, Dunn, maybe even Flowers though admittedly I like his long home runs.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:37 AM) Question for the veteran fans here - what's the worst offensive season by a Sox player you can remember? I wanna compare some of the worst statistically to Leury Garcia 2014. Wasn't Brian Anderson pretty bad? Harry Chappas never cracked .200 did he? Hell, one of Adam Dunn's seasons, didn't he dip to .145 at some point in June or something? Leury may be worst of all, but there have been some miserable hitters in Sox history, like all teams.

Boy the Sox stink. Hitters have run out of gas. Pitching is so so when you factor in the whole staff. Team is anemic. Lot of Orioles fans were happy campers this series. Were there more O's fans than Sox tonite?

I just can't get over the horror of James Foley kneeling there knowing he was about to get his head chopped off. And I can't get over the inhumanity and horror regarding what the remaining journalist is currently going through as he waits to be beheaded. They probably told him of Foley's fate and he's just waiting to die. I almost threw up seeing the video of Foley bravely kneeling with the asshole behind him holding a knife to his neck. Can these ISIS assholes even speak English? Did they communicate with Foley? Sorry, man, nothing personal but we have to cut your head off to make a point? The horror of it all and the other things I mentioned makes you wonder if the end of the world has begun.

James Foley is beheaded by ISIS. This is beyond horrifying. The other journalist there will have the same fate. The inhumanity of this and the other beheadings depresses me beyond no end. I am so freaked out by this and the Ferguson situation and the economy here and globally, not to mention Putin and the North Korean bastard asshole, it makes me think things will never get better in the world, that our world's best days are over. Can anyone get me off the ledge?

The cops raided a church where people were allegedly sleeping. Church leaders denied it. Another cop shown last night telling people he was gonna f***ing kill them and told the media to f*** off when asked his name. Both sides are at fault in these protests. It's scary to think after a week and a half, these protests still could get really really violent. Do you guys agree with the church leader who said this is the showdown with the cops everybody predicted? Then you look at what is going on internationally with Putin, North Korea, the bastards who beheaded the American. Is this the start of the end? Seriously.

Rather than blast the team more I'll just say Hahn has his work cut out if this team wants to contend. As of now, of course I'd say No, to the question asked in the thread.

So far no looting tonight, no trouble tonight. It's a Tuesday night though. Lot of people have been out during the evening hours just no trouble yet. Oops, somebody threw a water bottle at midnight and trouble brewing. What a joke.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:47 AM) Orioles are a good team. True. The Sox don't stand a chance against good teams with a good manager. No chance at all. There aren't many great managers, though. But Baltimore has one.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 11:01 PM) why? They'll just move Butler back to 1B and Ibanez would be more of a PH/role player. It's not like he's not ancient and hitting in the 100's. In fact, he might have more value providing veteran leadership on the bench than anything else, having gone through a number of pennant races in his career. Butler loves playing first base and I think Hosmer might be a prima donna. No proof.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) It's cute you think those kids are thinking rationally enough to care about their job future. When I was a teen I cared about my future and would not put myself in a position to get arrested like that. I'm middle class though. Maybe they are poor; who knows? I'm glad somebody (NBC) finally checked on the cops stats. Actually 78 got arrested last night, not 35 like Ron Johnson said. Now they need to go to the hospitals and get condition reports on those shot and find out who they are and why they got shot. You can't just blindly trust the police facts at 2 a.m. news briefings in the street. They also interviewed a guy who explained how he got arrested last night. He said he was driving away from the scene and 20 cops pulled he and his people out of his car and stepped on them in the street and arrested them. He claims they were just trying to drive away after the gas warnings. Hmmmm.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Dec 14, 2013 -> 06:20 PM) http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/12/13/...t-in-aliquippa/ One more person that should go right in the ground without a f***ing trial. A piece of s*** like this does not deserve to breathe one more second of air. And it should be as painful as possible Pure evil.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 06:31 AM) Greg, I don't normally even bother to argue with you as you're like arguing with a brick wall, but I have to tell you you're wrong. It's like saying "how good of a driver could ____ be?" after they get hit by another driver. You can be amazing at something, but you can't account entirely for other people. That's true, but like he pointed out, there had to be a mistake made if an unarmed guy is shot that many times. Now if the kid tried to get the cop's gun, the cop knows he's unarmed. I guess if the kid went for the gun, he deserves to be shot and possibly die. But if he shot him should he blast him five more times? And why would they let the body just rot in the street after the kid was killed? I think mistakes were made in any scenario. And this is assuming the kid tried to get the cop's gun? If this is a fact not an opinion, then the kid deserved to die, I guess. Will this ever be proven to be the real scenario?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 06:21 AM) That's accomplishing more than looting, stealing alcohol, shooting at the police or throwing Molotov cocktails. Very true. But why would a 20 year old kid want to be arrested?? It accomplishes nothing unless they are starving and want some jail food. I mean it makes no sense. They can protest all they want in the day as long as they keep moving. They were warned. Keep moving. Good luck to them trying to get a job in the real world with a conviction on their resume. That might even be a felony, right?

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:10 AM) Hawk is way past his expiration date. It's really sad. Was that when Lindstrom was pitching? I don't like Lindstrom, sorry.

BMags had a great line in this thread when he said: "But how good of a cop could you be if a jaywalking arrest turns into a dead kid? Surely there was some slip up along the way even if the kid was aggressively behaving." I agree wholeheartedly. My comment after watching live feeds tonight. The cops told the crowd to disperse again "or you will be arrested" after midnight and four guys knelt down refusing to move. Now what in the hell are they accomplishing by getting arrested?? Protests are fine, but go home and resume in the morning at the organized marches. They looked pretty young. If I were their parents I'd freak out and wouldn't bail them out. I mean what are the 4 accomplishing? There's no media in the cop station to interview them. The interviews are all old news now anyway.... Q: Why did you get arrested? A: "I want justice for Mike Brown." Obviously those 4 youngsters don't care that will be on their record that they got arrested for disturbing the peace or something. Very sad. It's like the kids were saying, "f*** you national guard. We are not leaving. Just arrest us." If I'm the national guard I say, "Fine. Cmon with us. Your jail accomodations will be waiting."

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 02:22 AM) You just ripped on him a few weeks ago. I almost replied, but then I thought, "why bother expending the 1.7 calories it will burn while typing my response," so I decided against it. I think I responded in a thread where somebody wanted to consider re-acquiring Rios when the Sox looked like a contender. I don't think I was vicious.