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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 02:43 PM) Another assignment for Coop: Henry Rodriguez on his way to a minor-league affiliate. Walked five in 1 2/3 for the Marlins on Thursday. signed by the Sox on Friday. He's walked 20 in his last 22 innings of MLB pitching. Best of luck, Coop and Richard Dotson. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/...eague-contract/ Whatever the Sox do, don't bring him up until you solve the control thing. One or two games of walking 3 guys in a row and he'll be released. Get the problem solved then give him a look.

The Sox talent evaluators do need some help though. Flowers and L. Garcia appear to not be big leaguers and Beckham was a bust for that slot he was selected. Also our minor league outfielders that were supposed to be amazing and were picked high stink as well. What's more, Viciedo appears to be blah at best. All I ask is more efficient talent evaluation!

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:34 PM) And speed. And pretty much everything else So is soxtalk saying Eaton is a bust in the making? That's not good cause it seems like he's been penciled in as Sox future CF.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:30 PM) Joey Gathright with slightly more pop is about the best I can do off the top of my head. Joey Gathright was a speedster who couldn't get a hit to save his life. What about my Damon comparison?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:25 PM) For as mediocre as Noesi was today, let's not forget he should have escaped this inning with 0 runs allowed, and about 30 more pitches on his arm. This inning is all on Luery and Alexei. That is true. Noesi's defense sent him to the shower early. L. Garcia is really an embarrassment. He's the new Keppinger. Time for the organization to admit a mistake there and dump him. I guess Flowers is the same way. I'd rather see him sent down for six weeks and give him one final chance but I wouldn't be against releasing him either.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:20 PM) Aaron Rowand was a .273 career hitter, not a .250 hitter. And with us, he was closer to around .285. Rowand also hit 20+ HR in a year multiple times, and could crush the ball. Eaton will never do that, he is a slap hitter mostly. Rowand was a righty, Eaton a lefty. Eaton has tons of speed, Rowand had average speed. There are far more differences with those two guys than similarities. Eaton would be closer to a Scott Podsednik with much better fielding and less base stealing ability. We really don't have anyone from our recent past to compare Eaton to. I guess I screwed up the comparison. I don't see Eaton hitting better than .273 or 20 homers so ... ouch.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:19 PM) Still a ton of changes to be made before this team can compete. That's fine. I've said it many times, if Robin can get this talent to play .500 ball all year he's manager of the year.

I'm glad we played the Royals a batch of games earlier this year when they stunk. This is ugly. L. Garcia gonna pitch today at some point?

Viciedo did not look graceful chasing that pop up.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:14 PM) Is this code for smallish white player? Don't go there. I've been totally colorblind regarding people for a long long time. It doesn't register with me.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:13 PM) Their offensive games are nothing alike As far as batting average and on base, do you agree Eaton will bring Rowan-esque numbers? Or is his potential more like Damon? I like Eaton but he screams "intangible grinderman" to me with not a lot of concrete production.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:08 PM) There is nothing similar between the two, other than playing CF. How so? Both are grinders with upside of about .250. Wouldn't you say?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) So it looks like the Sox aren't scoring today, and we're waiting for Noesi's one bad inning in the 5th or 6th...k great. MLB screwed us with this series. Have to play teams in Central too many times. We're catching the Royals in a stretch where they are on a roll. When they are clicking we have no chance vs. KC. Earlier in the season, Sox caught them at great times. Duffy and Guthrie are too good for our lineup and KC is hitting now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) Eaton has been struggling big time vs LHP. OPS around .535 This may receive some scorn, but isn't Eaton's upside that of Rowand? Eaton's not going to be a hit machine, but a grinder. I guess if he's Johnny Damon, that would be an even better upside than Rowand, but expectations for Eaton should be Rowand-esque, right?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) And neither is Sierra. For as good as our offense has been this year, we have some GLARING holes on this team. At least Luery provides speed and versatility. K-Flow is laughably useless at this point. Release him, call up Phegley, and let Phegs and Nieto be the L/R platoon. What about sending Flowers down for a month and hope when he returns he can get some hits as he did the first 5 weeks. You are right. I forgot about Sierra he's not a big leaguer either. Today's lineup is pretty bad cause Paulie is so slow. If he doesn't hit a rare homer he brings nothing but a possible single. I don't know what they see in L. Garcia though. If anybody should be released it should be he and Sierra and Flowers should be sent down for six weeks and try to learn how to hit once and for all.

I know Flowers is terrible, but I think L. Garcia is not a big league hitter either.

There's a protest on the Brooklyn Bridge today calling for policy changes in the aftermath of the recent violence. Good job, America. This is a start.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 10:07 PM) The problem is, if you don't vote for her, you hate women. So... She's catching a lot of heat over scrapping with the NPR reporter. Any of you watching or enjoying this? It's all up to the media, whether they want to let her dictate all interviews and shower praise on her as Queen of the U.S. figurehead or if they call her on some stuff like the harmless (or so Hillary thought) NPR reporter did.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 08:30 AM) Well this was predictable. These attendance threads always wind up having the same feel from year to year. 1.) Shock and awe because how could real sox fans not go to the X game with X pitcher playing. 18k fans. 2.) Counter arguments about how inflation is an evil beast, 10 f***ing bucks for X foot/drink item. 3.) The Geographically challenged Sox fan who if only they lived 1500 miles closer would buy a season ticket plan, plant sox flags in their yard, shoot tshirts with the pride crew. 4.) The superfan. They went to X more games than you. How the f*** can you call yourself a sox fan. The TV doesnt count in their world. 5.) Grumblings about millionaires playing baseball. 6.) Threats to move team. 7.) Blame X person in Sox Management for being out of touch. 8.) The self loathing sox fan who is kind of like the superfan, however likes the park empty because they can pee without waiting in a line, like the roomy seats, no lines for concessions and get to tell their buddies how they suck as sox fans. You want to solve this problem. It involves boosting season ticket sales. Plain and simple. You are not going to get 20k walkup on a thursday night game no matter who the f*** is pitching. Season ticket sales is the key. And I am sorry that takes a few years to build up. Rebuilding teams that are coming off of near 100 loss seasons are not adding to their season ticket base. No I haven't been to any games this year. Its not money, its not that they are bad. I am in another category that happen as well. The oversubscribed parent of a travel baseball player. Between games, practices, and tournaments there are some of us who don't have time to go. In August when this is over, I will do my good to embrace my fandom and take my family to the park. But until then it has to wait. I will be a terrible fan who uses my phone, my laptop and dare say it my TV to keep up with the Sox. Watching my son play the game is still a better use of my time than watching the sox any day. If that makes me a bad fan, then so be it. Go Sox This is a huge reason families don't go much. You have identified it. Parents have to take their kids everywhere to watch them play sports and do other things all summer. If a mom/dad has/have more than one child, almost every evening is occupied. Yes, kids are playing sports sports sports and it's all organized. Kids also are entering dance recitals and all sorts of things that parents have to chauffeur them to and watch. When I was little, we played in our Mt. Greenwood neighborhoods and had a reasonable Little League schedule. Not a ton of games. I think my dad came to one of my games, when we made the playoffs. After the game he grudgingly said he was shocked at how good a third baseman I was. He did not come to our second playoff game or our World Series games. I rode my bike to my Little League games and never got kidnapped and i didn't miss my parents who did not come to watch me. We had one travel team, the all star team for our Little League and that team didn't play many games. Parents are way more involved nowadays. Kids are not allowed to do anything much on their own lest somebody kidnap them, so parents really do not have time to go to White Sox ballgames. And most of these parents are not lamenting that fact much, cause they can watch parts of Sox games on TV or on their phones as you said and they don't have to spend a lot of money at the park. There also are so many baseball games, they are not special when the team has a ceiling of .500. Sure it's great to go to the park, but it's something not really missed because of the exorbitant cost and the ready-made excuse that the kids need a ride to their games. No parent alive will let their child ride their bike to their Little League game unchaperoned. No parent will risk their child's mental health by heaven forbid not being in attendance for every one of their games. So the family goes to one Sox game maybe two a year and everybody's more than good with that. Your post was excellent.

This prolly should go in the mlb central division thread, but the Royals are the team to beat in our division suddenly, folks.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 03:31 AM) Well, Carroll qualified for that $55,000 per year MLB pension with service time. So congrats to him and his family, that's huge. That's awesome. Lot of money.

Baseball sucks. We play the Royals way too many times, especially the first half. Ditto Cleveland, Detroit, Minnie. It's bulls***. Just have a balanced schedule, baseball! This is boring.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 14, 2014 -> 03:20 AM) Flwoers is 2-23 is June with 15 Ks. Both hits were HRs lol Poor Flowers can't hit.

We should have signed Guthrie a few years ago. Innings eater and White Sox killer.

I think Chen is healthy again. How can KC not start him in this series? Guthrie and Chen are automatic winners anytime they are in the vicinity of the White Sox.