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Sure there is a chance Jose Rodriguez becomes a 2 WAR guy or better. There's a chance of anything happening with roster constraints and all teams face those constraints. Thats why you get Adam Eatons and Carlos Quentins falling in your lap. We have had those realities benefit us before and hurt us before. All teams struggle with that. The things to be mad about are situations where we misevaluate ourselves under no pressures otherwise (Semien). Or having disagreement on a super young guy (someone really valued Tatis and someone didnt, apparently)

off duty cop from beverly probably sat on his gun

Not sure if meaningful. Adam Jones isnt up early.. he lives in Barcelona

qu'en est-il de danks

Robert Murray says in his pod that Merrifield is not near signing anywhere.

"new cease suitor" teased here https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1752429867516514474

Ok. An actual MLB player, and it's fine. Rarity this offseason really.

Maybe not in these proposed ways, but i could see the Orioles trading Santander. they dont like to pay that last big arb year, i'm sure. that's how they operate. Even though theyre win now i can see them weaseling out of it and selling it to the fanbase somehow if it involves a pitcher coming in

i kinda felt the opposite, like the Sox are the ones messaging through all these writers saying no-trade-likely. thats the last threat left-- that we'd take cease into the season.

What's more likely is they just dont choose that prospect of the ones offered. If they were really in love with a bat-only prospect though... then they would take him without a concern for 2024 (which is probably Eloy's last year with the Sox). Prospects should be acquired based on quality instead of fit. Because you will invariably trade some or change what they have to fit around (over time)

Getz has gotten his job on promising people in the right positions. So sure on another team he can pass for a position he cant play. But not here. And the league is not trending that way anyway so if his bat is very good it's not going to be an issue and he's going to take a team's 1b or dh

Mayo's looking like 1b

isnt there a difference with Glasnow though? it was baked in that he would sign an extension (not a Boras guy gives him value in that sense). The terms of the trade were determined by his already existing willingness to complete the extension immediately

Hey guys i came to the site for some Cease talk. am i in the right place? was this thread something else before but mistakenly renamed at some point?

Most humans have 2 or more arms. True statement.

i'm actually going into this thing asking for less than the moon. Cease may be 2-year control and has a good past, but last year had iffy walks and the most recent thing you gave is what people remember. i think Baltimore will give us the two guys who are well thought of and some extra pieces. we've also talked with Dodgers and Yankees which does not surprise me- Sox will do this deal with a well entrenched front office. Trading Cease for two Top 100s and then lets say the next two years he's worse than he was in 2023: thats the kind of thing a GM gets fired for. You'll trade him to a teflon FO if you are getting back a strong haul. Lets be honest we would be saying these same things if we were buy-now. Right before we got Shields, Fangraphs wrote a piece about how he had gotten a little worse than he had been. Now, Samardzjia came here after a good year...true. We didnt have to give up any Top 100 pieces for him (communal groan...) *and for purposes of this exercise i do consider westburg like a top 100

It all just revolves around whats down lower in [CHICAGO ACCENT:] da package

Jim Duquette on XM Radio (2:15pm yesterday): Orioles have made an offer on Cease, it's a good one, but Elias' has been very disciplined on offers he has been putting out there, and it doesnt need to go up. Then Bowden agreed: "Yeah, it doesnt need to go up" Maybe interesting if for nothing else just to see the messaging that gets put out there (by a show literally called "Front Office" that routinely pokes at Boras and hardline agents all the time, so it's very friendly to teams putting out messaging perhaps)

and to be a little fair, i will say...Quero was kind of a rare case where the Angels were over a barrel trying to impress Ohtani as a last ditch effort. Shohei's a revenue machine and the only way to keep him wouldve been a WS ring

Doesnt Ortiz basically have everything you need from a 2b/shortstop prospect considering he has a touch of power? To me if it wasnt for the age issue he'd even have a run at being a headliner/co-headliner type guy

what package can the Mets offer (any?)

Maldonado was terrible framing was but very good on the other things. 75th percentile pitch blocking, 71st percentile on pop times. The stolen bases are not as good a metric as the pop times because they involve the pitchers

skokieSox, i may actually have to go to skokie today. i have a ripped pair of jeans i need to replace