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Looks like Tanner got himself demoted. But solid start.

To steal a line from shameless: F. F? As in fail? F as in fucked! I'm all for using holding the big pieces if the right offer wasn't there, but I'm not confident in Getz being the right person to extract maximum surplus value out of the few sparse assets we have. I think you need to start putting way more value on bats come draft day. It's clear there is a premium on controllable bats and we are seriously deficient without having a believable path to at least being mediocre on the offensive side.

If you would have asked me who between Scott and Fedde has more value I would have said its probably close. Boy was I wrong.

Finding anyone who can actually suite up and play a MLB SS is a challenge. Dejong did it, albeit poorly, but he still did it. There's not a lot out there you can acquire and have any confidence they're even capable at taking the field at short. A WRc+of 95 at SS is still worth something, it should have been worth more than the equivalent of a MiLB free agent signing.

I partially wonder if trading him means less paper work. The HR guy was in Getz's office and said I'm up to my ass in paper work with the other 15 guys we need to get rid of just trade someone so I can leave early on Friday.

We made a classic mistake by actually playing him thus devaluating his return. If we're learned anything recently from the St Louis Cardinals is you don't play your players to maximize their return.

His issue has always been throwing strikes. Something has obviously clicked. He's earned another crack at starting at this point. The few times I've seen him on TV it was his inability to get fastballs over for strikes that caused him to fall behind in counts.

The only thing that makes sense here is the Sox convinced themselves they were getting a deal on Vargas. But if that's the case I'm willing to bet they could have had it for just Kopech if they just let that offer sit for a while.

Had I know trading Fedde would have meant a Toukii sighting I would have preferred to just hold onto him and shoot for 60 wins next year.

Even by the White Sox semi incompetent standards this one seems highly underwhelming. With so many clubs out there looking to add a quality arm it's basically administrative malfeasance if you didn't at least call the White Sox to check this hand.

From the dodgers perspective, if they just nicely asked I'm sure the Cards would have been happy to just let Edman walk and the Sox would have equally been happy to at least let the Dodgers pay for Kopech coach seat. There's 3 guys in this deal that have zero to marginal value. So how the dodgers are getting two of them but actually gave up anything of value is somewhat perplexing.

Solid pick up for KC. I'd much rather pay that price than meet the Sox asking price on Fedde. It's also possible to find reasonably priced starting pitching, you just need to aim higher than Chris Flexen.

Generally speaking if you keep losing 100+ a year you'll be in a position to add top shelf talent at least once every two years. Give is a solid 4-5 years and things will work themselves out.

At this point I'm starting to think you'll have a better market for him in the winter. If you're a GM and your job is on the line trading for the next two years doesn't help much when you can probably only run him out for 3 innings on his next start. Just baby the s%*# out of him the rest of the year and start taking bids post world series.

If you're gonna do that, go get some legit bullpen arms and pay them $10M+. I don't want any vets unless they are legit options to close.

You might as well throw a dude like Burke a start or 5 next year. If that does work he can float between Charlotte and Chicago trying to find a niche in the bullpen. If you're gonna get lit up in Charlotte you might as well get doubly lit in Chicago. I hope they don't bring in a single vet next year and just throw every arm we have north of AA into the bigs and we'll get an idea who's gonna sink or swim. If you win 40 games so be it but at least you know what you have and then go spend some serious cash on 2026.

I think if he refuses to pitch in the playoffs if anyone has a grievance to file it's the team.

I really hope Taylor gets in a solid 85 innings next year. This was a bit of a punt year for him, but I look forward to see who moves faster next year between him and Smith.

Not exactly how you want to make a first impression on an elite arm over a few bucks. I wonder what the Sox would have done if they made a deal with Condon at like 9.4M? Throw $10k at a 5 yr sr for the comp pick?

They clearly paid them like they like them. But I wasn't particularly impressed with any of those picks. Odds on a 3-5rd picks having any meaningful impact on an MLB roster are slim anyway, so I probably should expect a lot. But I feel felt a lot better about our 3-5 round picks the last few years and except for Cannon I don't think they had to go over slot on many of those picks.

Not really seeing a lot of quality from day 2. But the Sox have been so poor with getting value from the draft it wouldn't take a lot to beat most of the last 10 drafts.

I can't imagine his trade value is any lower this off-season (bearing health). The key is obviously don't say yes to anything unless you feel you can't say no. I'm holding until the off-season unless I'm left speechless. I'm gonna be furious if my first reaction isn't "wow, they got that...".

Whatever Pallette has been doing in relief, he needs to do the same thing when he's starting

Given the complete lack of positional depth I would have assumed it could only improve after this draft but the sheer count of punted picks on relivers makes me feel like we've take a step back. I'm generally in favor of value over need, but if you don't draft enough quality bats you're not likely going to hit on many. This year it seems we either went for ceiling (1 big prep deal) or money saving floor moves (for org depth). Not really sold on 3-5 this year as legitimate prospects (at a minimum each guy drafted likely would still be around 1-2 rounds later). My hope for next year is a strategy that ends with as many high ceiling position prospects as possible. It seems we blew most of our spend on 1-2 and punted 3-10. My hope next year would be to land 6-7 legit-ish bats. Try to save money at 1-2 if it means getting more value 3-6. At this point we may need to just go for quantity and by that I mean 2-3 advanced college bats with legitimate tools vs one 1 high flying prep kid that's eating slot+ by leverage NIL deals.

Is it too early to guess how many picks we punt next year?