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Once they leave they no longer exist. It’s death. Nashville or wherever they go is a brand new baby. New beginning with a whole brand new history to write. It sucks (for me) but reality is real.

Game over. Jerry ain’t getting is way and he’s not spending his own money. No new owners going to spend billions to buy a team that plays at rate field nor would they spend billions to build here when other cities would build them a new one. Bye bye.

Ooos…, the other picture was of Al Capone.

For all who despise Jerry, which of these two infamous takers does he most remind you of?W

The Allen Brothers who owned the team from 1961 to 1975 were the worst owners I ever witnessed. Actually John Allen screwed his brother out of his shares and took sole ownership from 1969 until the end in 1975. Sorry I called you a Cubs fan. Obviously your not.

I’ve been a Sox fan since I was 5 years old which was 65 years ago. My father who was born in 1910 was a Sox Sox fan since he was knee high to a grasshopper. My grandfather was there when the Sox played on Wentworth avenue before old comiskey was built. That’s generational commitment. You don’t quit a lifetime commitment because of a Jerry Reinsdorf.

I guess being a Sox fan isn’t a lifetime commitment for everyone.

But in the end it winds up being self abuse. Pain requiring more pain to relieve the original pain with fresh pain.

Maybe you feel this way because your actually a cub fan?

As I’ve stated before, Ricketts didn’t voluntarily pay for his own from the get-go. He lobbied hard for public financing but was ultimately turned down. He was willing to use taxpayer funding if he could get it.

Im not in favor of public financing for this or any new stadium including the Bears. I was simply responding to as poster who said IF a new Sox stadium was built at the 78 no tourists would go there. I was simply pointing out that these neighborhoods around the 78 are already tourist attractions. Most north siders and suburbanites know nothing of the south side let alone the areas I spoke of.

And I incorrectly said south loop where I actually meant the joints on and north of Roosevelt directly northeast of the 78

But the current park cannot anchor these areas like the 78 could and these areas are in fact closer to the 78.

So your saying Pilsen, Chinatown, Greek Town, and Taylor which basically rub shoulders with the 78 doesn’t make this a cool area along with all the joints in the south loop? That the point I’m making!

If you a tourist visiting Chicago and staying in the Loop or Downtown or in Pilsen give me one good reason why you wouldn’t venture over to a beautiful new ballpark surrounded by hip joints and restaurants with close proximity to the lake etc and don’t forget about the thriving Pilsen neighborhood and it fabulous Mexican Art and restaurant and music venues. Pilsen is basically kitty—cornered to the 78 on the southwest corner and is also a short hop skip and jump to Chinatown which is directly east of Pilsen and south of the the 78 and the UIC and Taylor St. and Greek Town which are directly North of Pilsen. You can’t get any more tourist attractive than that and it’s all walkable. Take a drive through these ares see the cohesiveness with each other including the 78 and see first hand what the area has to offer. I love these areas.

Smaller parks are the wave of the future. TV, Streaming, and to a lesser extent Radio Revenues are where the big money comes from.

Smaller parks are expected to be way of the future.

Been here for seven decades. The design for this proposed park indicates capacity of 35,000ish or so. They would sell out every game for a few years to start and build fan support along the way. You want to keep the Sox the 2nd team then keep the at 35th st. There is NO reason why two MLB teams can’t be co-equals in a city like Chicago. The Sox have to come out of their backwater existence in Bridgeport and join the outside world via the 78.

What the Bears pretend and what they do remain to be seen. They will ask for some public financing for the stadium itself. The Bears continuously lie but are clever about it. Your statement about the sox and tourist coming to the 78 is ludicrous.

Point of order……Ricketts tried very hard to win public financing help…..but lost.

This morning Bernstein on The Score alluded that the Sox don’t deserve public financing because they don’t have enough fans. What I took from that was he setting up his argument that the Bears deserve public financing because of their large fandom.

I don’t know if a stadium deal ever went up in smoke as fast as this one did in the history of professional sports

Jerry deep down is still that young punk kid growing up on the dirty streets of Brooklyn. It’s just his nature which is influenced by his being the product of a much rougher and gruffer generation. That doesn’t excuse though.

I’d bet Related is in full panic mode right about now. Reinsdorf’s presentation at the Capital and at Crain’s was a complete flop.

I feel as though Jerry’s performance in Springfield and at Crain’s has pretty much let much of the oxygen out of our Sox fandom. The heavy cloud of a potential out of state move is a definite downer to the Sox psyche and I’m worried it’s only going to get worse. If Jerry’s aim was to distract us he succeeded but not towards the team but rather away from the them.