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Ok….. I just don’t see people hanging out there when there is no ballgame. People on either side of the Dan Ryan around Sox park don’t have the disposable incomes that other areas do. I think this area where Sox park not sits along with its parking lots is destined to become a residential area.

The sox may have no other choice but to leave if the bears get the funding instead of the Sox. That funding is the key to everything. Without it the Sox are not viable here for the long run. Why stay?

I think the bottom line is that Bridgeport is just far away from where all the action is in this city. Plus who’s going to trek down there or up there and frequent a “restaurant/bar zone” during the off season or while they’re on the road and the tax revenue would suck compared to the 78 site.

Well, this is both exciting and scary. WGN has confirmed that that the sox and the bears are in competition with each other. Both franchises are hoping any potential new baseball or football facility would be financed (in part) by tapping into a “unique binding clause” that governs the I.S.F.A. If the bears wind up winning this partial financing thingy I believe that would cause the Sox no other choice but to leave Illinois altogether. I hope Reinsdorf has a lot of “friends” in Springfield.

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Can’t find anything/anywhere to confirm that Kaplan said such. When and where did he supposedly say this? Help us out please.

Aren’t Hobson and Lucas the favorites to own the Nashville expansion team?

This site would create a whole new neighborhood. Chicago currently has 77 neighborhoods. This would become the 78th. That why it was give the moniker 78x

Yeah, but the Ricketts will give it all they got to beat this back.

The cubs organization and in particular the Ricketts family will be working behind the scenes to make sure this does not happen.

Why won’t Nightingale list his source or is this just his way of helping his buddy Reinsdorf hide the bacon and to take the sizzle out of the story? Anyway, Garfien (hope I’m spelling his name right) said the same thing last thing but specifically added that this was only his opinion of what happened or why the meeting/meal too place.

In his heart of hearts Reinsdorf is still a New York hustler-con artist. He has no empathy for his fan base which he just exhibited by meeting with the Mayor of Nashville (Hooverville on steroids) and then left us in the dark to agonize which he’s probably enjoying. He’s a bully and worships money over anyone and anything. He hasn’t worked for his billions by rather worked the system to a T to his every advantage.

Most of the Sox shareholders bought in at the beginning. Their initial investments are now worth +100 times their initial outlay.

Wasn’t DeBartolo fixated on moving the Sox to Denver? Plus he supposedly had ties to the mafia.

I believe the Cubs can (and would) veto an expansion team coming to Chicago or any current team coming to Chicago due to the 250 mile infringement rule.

I agree that that anyone that’s negative isn’t necessarily a cub fan but anyone who claims to be a Sox fan and supports the move to Nashville is either a cub fan or a Nashville fan or a outsider. No real sox fan wants the team to move away from Chicago or the Chicago area. I can see a former Sox fan not giving a s%*# what happens but then those people wouldn’t be on this site anyway…..or shouldn’t feel a need to be here unless they’re psycho.

I can see him (mayor) not favoring his city financially helping Nashville’s already established NFL team which is already bringing in revenue for business and tax monies. Improving the current Nashville NFL stadium or building a new nfl stadium may slightly increase overall local revenues as it is related to the Titans but bringing a whole new entity into Nashville (white sox) complete with a new baseball facility can be justified by the mayor as a greatly significant financial boon that did not exist before, saying the monies eventually earned (throughout) would justify the initial costs, tax incentives, etc.etc.

Right. He’ll say “don’t take this out on me or my Bulls. I didn’t move the team.”What the Hell…..this may very well be the dawning of a hopeless situation for us Sox fans.

With all the horror stories regarding moving to Nashville, the real fan base has been torn to shreds and will be in tatters going forward until Reinsdorf officially announces a deal/plan to keep them here. I not saying that day will come but this fan base is now officially deflated and can only be resurrected with an assured Chicago/Chicago area home. For the next few years Sox park will be the home of the living dead. We await a savior……that may not come.

The Chicago area will not be getting a new mlb franchise if the Sox move to Nashville. The Cubs can and would veto it with the (is it 250 miles) rule. Also, as someone who has been a longtime reader of this site whom just started posting I like to say to supposedly sox fans who want them to move to Nashville…..go to hell and move with them. My family has been Sox fans for four generations. It’s so easy to spot Cub fans posing as Sox fans.

Jerry wants to pummel us and grind us into the dirt before he eventually moves the team to Nashville or at least in his mind that’s what he thinks he’s doing. He hates us because we hate him. Jerry “Nero” Reinsdorf is pissed and he’s taking everyone down with him.

Steve Stone previously made an astute point. A new franchise would pay a $3 Billion new franchise fee to mlb which would be evenly distributed to each mlb team. Therefore the owners would prefer this payment as opposed to an established team moving to Nashville or Vegas or anywhere else whereby they get nothing.

9-14-23 Crains

Low attendance at White Sox games has resulted in the team “paying no ticket fees for over a decade to the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority,” the state agency that owns taxpayer-funded Guaranteed Rate Field, according to Sophie Rodgers of CRAIN’S CHICAGO BUSINESS. The management agreement between ISFA and the White Sox “requires the team to pay a base rent per season, plus net ticket fees if paid attendance exceeds 1.93 million tickets," with that "excluding 'comp' tickets." The team “hasn’t paid ticket fees since 2010,” when it drew nearly 2.2 million fans. Last year, the franchise brought in their highest attendance since then, 1.92 million fans -- “just missing the threshold needed to pay ISFA.” While ISFA does "not heavily rely on revenue from ticket fees to meet its bond obligations,” the “glaring issue is the White Sox’s ability to bring in fans” (CRAIN’S CHICAGO BUSINESS, 9/13).