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Been here for seven decades. The design for this proposed park indicates capacity of 35,000ish or so. They would sell out every game for a few years to start and build fan support along the way. You want to keep the Sox the 2nd team then keep the at 35th st. There is NO reason why two MLB teams can’t be co-equals in a city like Chicago. The Sox have to come out of their backwater existence in Bridgeport and join the outside world via the 78.

What the Bears pretend and what they do remain to be seen. They will ask for some public financing for the stadium itself. The Bears continuously lie but are clever about it. Your statement about the sox and tourist coming to the 78 is ludicrous.

Point of order……Ricketts tried very hard to win public financing help…..but lost.

This morning Bernstein on The Score alluded that the Sox don’t deserve public financing because they don’t have enough fans. What I took from that was he setting up his argument that the Bears deserve public financing because of their large fandom.

I don’t know if a stadium deal ever went up in smoke as fast as this one did in the history of professional sports

Jerry deep down is still that young punk kid growing up on the dirty streets of Brooklyn. It’s just his nature which is influenced by his being the product of a much rougher and gruffer generation. That doesn’t excuse though.

I’d bet Related is in full panic mode right about now. Reinsdorf’s presentation at the Capital and at Crain’s was a complete flop.

I feel as though Jerry’s performance in Springfield and at Crain’s has pretty much let much of the oxygen out of our Sox fandom. The heavy cloud of a potential out of state move is a definite downer to the Sox psyche and I’m worried it’s only going to get worse. If Jerry’s aim was to distract us he succeeded but not towards the team but rather away from the them.

I understand your statement but it just proves that the whole thing is hypocritical should the Bears get public funding simply because they are the Bears. Funding of state and city human being issues should outweigh the Royal family (Bears) needs.

What I’d give to be a fly on the wall in Related’s big boy meeting room to hear what their saying about this project now that it’s been torn to shreds (stadium funding wise) over this past week by every Chicago media outlet and internet groups. Maybe they’ll just scrap the whole thing.

Sound hypocritical. Using public funds to subsidize the building of the new Bear stadium as opposed to using that money to, let’s say, hire more police officers and using the Reinsdorf saga as a reason for allowing it to happen is not an argument but an excuse.

Public funds should not be “awarded” because of a possible “bright future” on the field. Your’e either for public funds being used for new stadiums or against public funds being used for new stadiums.

With all the commotion that has been spewed since Jerry’s visit to Springfield and the subsequent interview with Crain’s does anyone really think this thing still has any life left in it? Reinsdorf has been totally reamed by every facet of Chicago and social media to the extent that he’s down for the ten count and the referee is holding up nine fingers. I don’t see how he recovers from this. He’s gone over the last week from being characterized as a miserly old owner to what is now a miserable human being without any positive characteristics left whatsoever. In another note, I’m looking forward to see how badly Warren and/or the Bear ownership family are portrayed when they come out with their want of public funds, which they will, to build their new facility to house their god-awful product. And remember while Ricketts is being portrayed as a saint for using non public money he actually did ask for public money and tried hard to get it. They all do it but for some reason Reinsdorf doing it for some reason is now known as the cities worst person ever for trying what they all try.

And if your calling also mention no public funding o any kind for any new Bear Stadium.

I thought everybody was saying there would be no need for public financing for the Bears. If the white Sox don’t deserve public financing, as many are saying, in part, because of Reinsdorf and his horrid ways and because the team consistently blows etc etc then this worthless piece of junk football team which has been ten times crappier on the field and throughout their organization shouldn’t see the light of day toward a single public dollar. If the Sox are garbage then the Bears are garbage to garbage. But yet everyone wants to treat them like royalty. The Bears have pretty much sucked for the last 40 years. They can take their sorry asses to Mexico City for all I care. Pay for your own damn stadium Bears or get lost.

So I’ve been told Reinsdorf wants one billion dollars PLUS the motel tax thing and I’ve also been told that the billion dollars is the motel tax thing. I’ve also been told he now wants two billion. What’s the correct dope?

Or maybe he has a Springfield.

Any details as to why you feel this way?

Technically Reinsdorf hasn’t said he’d move the team out, he told Crain’s that the next owner, after Reinsdorf dies, would be moving the team out if there isn’t a new stadium.

That because things get exposed here. Not so much elsewhere especially in small town American fiefdoms.

And Pontius Pilate was totally against crucifying Jesus…..at first. The Nashville wheelers and dealers will show him the light, or the door.

It’s not just Illinois it’s the same all over the world. Money rules everything.

Probably southern Illinois Chicago hating country rubes.

Why wouldn’t they move to a city that would provide them with a new stadium and partial ownership of those things within an accompanying entertainment area, (restaurants, bars, legal gambling parlors, hotel(s) and whatever. That’s how the money is made not in some backwater neighborhood like Bridgeport that has nothing else going for it except 81 baseball games a year.

So if Nashville does not get an expansion team, as the article indicated could happen , then it would work out great for a new white Sox ownership group (or Reinsdorf JR.) to move there.