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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) Assuming the Red Sox with Moncada are the other, would be interested in seeing the rest of the top ten and determining if they're just big market spenders or teams with mostly losing records during that time frame. LA Angels and Texas? What's interesting is you don't often see the Cards, Braves, Rays blowing away anyone with their spending (in this area) but somehow they must be doing something right. Or SF. Even the A's, for example, threw out big money for Cespedes and Michael Ynoa, although Yoenis was over 23. You pretty much have to be a player in this intl game or the game will eat you alive. b/c it is sooo simple, they have competent men in the FO who knows how to draft, other men in the coaching dept who knows how to coach.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) That's a ridiculous and stupid thing to say IMO. Screw what the rankings say, it only matters how the Sox view and evaluate a player. Reyes might be ranked #31 but he's signing for $1.5M so there had to be some serious interest from other teams, guys ranked that low by publications don't get typically get bonuses over a million dollars. Reyes might be #31 on the list but none of us know how the Sox or other teams ranked him on their big boards. Its also worth pointing out that you dont know who else the Sox are going to sign, they like to spread their money around. Look in 2013 when they signed Micker for $1.6M and signed (I believe) 3 or 4 more players to bounuses over 300K. Last year's class is a prime example of that too. I wouldn't compare amateur scouting in Latin America to the draft, July 2nd is basically a pissing contest between scouts as they try to out-scout one another. Look around MLB and check out all the quality, contributing Latin players (with the exceptions of the Cuban players) and tell me how many were signed to large bonuses, not very many. Overspending on July 2nd can really set an organization back, as you cant sign a player for over 300K for one or two years, KW said that when he hired Marco Paddy, he wanted to establish a pipeline that would constantly pump talent into the system, you cant really pump talent into the system when you can't sign any of the 'top guys'. I'm going to stop before my pacemaker zaps me. (Mic drop) re bold, i disagree, it will give a system a sudden influx of players, whether they all develop as hope is another thing. but the system will have, as i said, influx of good players. then for the next 2 yrs after, they still will be able to sign players, granted with a much lower pool money. in addition this whole int't draft is changing.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) Lineups https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/615166293889687552 is this the real line up, i like it. thinking outside the box. Jose A #2 hitting.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) John Jaeckel has never gotten a deal right. Don't listen to him at all. while you may be correct..... i just like to use these sites to acquire any and all info i can. on this one, now it make sense of versteeg rumor. you do make a point. anyway, a lot of posters question how info comes to this site, via posters. btw, for predictions of trades, is one thing, telling of failed trades, is another.

so the discussed deal of Mont and hawks fell apart. i just couldn't see what were the players. now this came up http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2015/6/26/...4957.1435495087

well according to this, bowman was working on some deals that fell apart. he over played his hand. http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/John-Jaecke...d-Why/128/69594

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 07:28 PM) I can't give you specific names but I am CONVINCED fully my plan of keeping Sale, Q, Rodon, and our new draftee pitcher to go with Abreu and A. Garcia (I guess he's a fine prospect still) and trading all the pieces Hahn acquired last offseason is our best bet for immediate success. Those are a lot of bodies to trade and I'll leave it to him to fix the problems with those bodies as trade bait. Our ONLY hope is to ride what could be a top of the line rotation to the top. It would help if we could get in another division though. Sox are patsies to division foes in Central. i am with you, but i keep looking at, how will the sox improve, thru FA's???? i think not, so how to improve, if the sox do not consider moving a pitcher.

QUOTE (staxx @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 06:59 AM) I'm still absolutely excited about Danish. The kid is EXTREMELY young for this level and will continue to learn. There is zero reason to consider this year a failure in any way. No one should have expected him to dominate AA. i agree, i really don't care if the young pitchers go 10-0 in their record. i just want them to fully develop their skills this yr. that is what they are doing, developing their pitching skills.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 07:30 AM) I saw this and while its a shame that the Sox are going to miss out on some guys that they have been linked to and some guys that I would like for them to sign, but I have full confidence that the Sox will get some interesting players. well, for me, i do not have confidence in the sox esp when it comes to money spending. there is not enuf yrs of change to keeping remembering the yrs of disaster since 2000.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 09:37 AM) It wasn't actually a salary dump, he will be making 800K next year. That wasn't the reason. Someone mentioned it before, I think this was more of a "favor" move for Raanta, he signed here a few years ago, I'm sure was promised a shot, and it didn't happen. If there isn't room, give the kid a chance to play somewhere else. Given what has transpired, I think that's a respectable move from the front office, but obviously there are bigger issues to now address. i agree. this was a necessary pick. it is a win-win situation. the hawks doesn't get a black eye for the way they handle him, remember he is popular in his country and nice was to keep the good will. second, a player, if develop right, may be serviceable. i just hope with a successful coach and a org can emphasis some positive coaching tips. this is the best in this situation.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 01:26 AM) The one "fault" you can really put on the Hawks is giving away talent that didn't seem to be given a chance, or sold very low. Pirri, Hayes, Morin, and I agree that I thought if Raanta was given a shot, he had something. But, I guess that is what happens when the NHL roster is tough to crack. the trade of Raanta was imo, a necessary one. i am in the thinking that this was probably the best time. however asking for a rtn was going to be a problem. yeah, i think it was a salary dump. thing is, some one mention how Tallon was doing the same thing and he was not a competent gm. ref to my wish of the hawks signing a goalie Antti Niemi and trading crawford. yeah i know it was a pipe dream. but it would be a nice way around the cap.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 10:35 PM) Yeah I heard the dog might win best actor at the Academy Awards this is where i was going with this.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 10:20 PM) Does this end the argument that Kenny still has a lot of control? whether he is or isn't i will keep that answer to myself. however i still keep in the back of my thought processes the KW was the key architect or our great minor league system since 2000.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) I want to see it but not sure if we want to cry tonight. I have a soft spot for dogs yeah i too have a soft spot for dogs. my sister said the only part is sad is the beginning at the funeral of the brother. otherwise well i can't vouch, b/c i am undecided on going to see it.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) Trying to decide what movie to go see tonight out of these three: Dope, Ted 2, and Max many people down here, including my sister is talking how good the movie max is and the dog as great.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) This pretty much guarantees Crawford will not be traded. The chances of him being traded were slim to begin with, but this shuts that door completely IMO. But ya, no real obvious #3 goalie candidate. there is a slim chance that it Antti Niemi gets signed as a fa and then the hawks can trade crawford. the age difference between the 2 if only 1 yr and that is Niemi is older by 1 yr. for me, stat wise, he is still a very good goalie.

well so much of hoping that Bickell will be traded and off the books from the hawks salary stand point. Coyotes Send Gagner to Flyers for Grossmann and Pronger, the interesting thing here, is it was Pronger contract that was moved. http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2015/06/27...nn-and-pronger/

there were some interesting name in the 4 rd, none of which fell to the hawks. #121 RYAN SHEA - D in depth write up http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-ho...n-phantoms-ushl http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-ho...hea-hockey-east

chi 3 rd #91 Dennis Gilbert http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=267396 http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=99009

bos with 2 or 3 picks in the 2nd rd pickup players who may turn into something. #37 Brandon Carlo #52 Jeremy Lauzon this yr draft is all Bos regardless of what the pro are saying.

2nd rnd #54 pick GRAHAM KNOTT nice write up http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=225057 additional http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2015/6/27/...-2015-nhl-draft

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) Its very simple....all you have to do is go through the top 30 international prospects lists from the 16-19 year olds in Latin America and look at how many actually made an impact. The total money spent in each signing period, the amount that went to the top 30, how many players had a statistically significant impact, etc. i still do not agree on one part, 16-19 are still developing and the final report card is still not finished. but thanks any ways. i am done on this one post. i was a little snarky and i shouldn't have made this post.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 03:46 AM) yeah at this moment all of them are saying how its no on the coaching... Is it ALL on the coaching ? Of course not... but you can expect to see more bad baseball for the next two years at least. an interesting idea..... so on anyone opinion, how much of that will be on the coaches??? now, this season is toward the end of a bad domino effect of screw ups. so when it mattered, in the beginning of the season, how much of failure was the coaches fault??

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) And the odds for any of them to make the big leagues....roughly the same as a 4th - 10th round pick, with some obvious exceptions at the very top of the ratings where 80% of the resources are being allocated. since you are pretty adamant on using stats to backup you statement, pls show me the links of this stat you are using. i normally don't do this, but i am wondering now. you can state the odds of many prospects not making it to the big leagues, so i am thinking, why even bother with getting or selecting these players. then how will you continue to feed the parent team??? the point is, the system as is, needs bodies.... you get a lot of bodies, talented bodies and develop them. then comes the hoping that some will become players in the big league.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 02:13 AM) Damn I thought there would be a lot more activity in this thread for the hawks by the time I got home from work. So nothing hawk related happened? man, i really thought that there were going to be a lot of exciting news coming from the hawks camp. i really hope the sox are not asking for a huge rtn of there players. on the other note, i remembered that this draft was deep in talent. just maybe the activity will happen after the draft. either way, bickell - i would be happy for a rtn of vouchers at a concession stand sharp - 1 rn next yr, steeger - a 4 and 5 rounder.