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The Asomugah deal is amazing for the Eagles. Yes, lots of money, but not crazy in length.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 03:10 PM) I think no matter what, if Quentin & Danks stay, the Sox are going to do whatever they can to move those guys as part of the retooling process. Maybe they'll offer extensions to both, I think they will at least try with Danks again, prior to trying a trade. I also think the club will see how creative they can get with Rios over the off-season. See if another team likes him and has a bad contract that the Sox wouldn't mind taking on. I think they will, too. One last-ditch effort to have them sign a reasonable extension. If they don't sign, then they will be shown the door.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Omar Vizquel says hi. Actually, Omar would probably say, "hola."

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) DKnobler DKnobler DKnobler by SI_JonHeyman With Braves holding tight to all their top pitching prospects, some in industry believe they end up with Ludwick as OF bat. #tradedeadline 9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply I just can't buy that. But if they really want a .675 OPS hitting corner outfielder for a playoff run, then they can be stubborn.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) Couldn't a 4 team deal potentially make sense. White Sox land Bourn plus prospects, Phillies land one of Pence/Quentin, Braves land the other, Astros get prospects from both teams. Four-team deals are nearly impossible to consummate with all the movie parts and usually the money involved.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) How in the world is this O-line worse? You think Carimi We don't have a center, first of all. So right now Garza is our starting center. And I like Carimi, but he is a rookie with no off-season working with the Bears players or playbook.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) All Bears draft picks have now been re-signed, AA re-signed, Roach back. Got a punter, the blocking TE and a good special teamer, an upgrade at WR. Ok Ok, we're getting there, slowly but surely. Get Kreutz in the fold and make a couple splashes. We are basically the same team as last year, but worse on the O-line. I am still not optimistic until we bring in two legit starting o-linemen, and a real WR.

AA is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also love how a Quentin-trade-rumor thread has sub-arguments concerning the Red Sox-White Sox matchups and Adam Dunn's conditioning. Granted, I am integral in both tangents of the thread.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) He said he doesn't pick up a bat in the off season. That no where near means he doesn't work out or condition. Well I said as compared to others. Some guys are workout freaks in the off-season, and Adam Dunn isn't. I didn't say he did nothing but sit on his fat ass and watch hillybilly movies while drinking PBRs (though i wouldn't be surprised if true), I just said he doesn't take off-season work as seriously as other MLB players.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) Shedding Rios' salary is not areason to trade Thornton for someone we probably can't use. I think Rios can be dealt by himself. Anything is possible. I was told sometime earlier no one would take Teahan either No one would ever touch Rios with a 100-foot pole by himself. I can guarantee that. Thorton is good, but we have Sale who is looking to be as good, if not better than Matt right now and in the future. Ohman has been perfect as the LOOGY. If you get rid of that salary of Rios, you are a heck of a lot closer to being able to compete for the next few years.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:49 AM) It's not unprecedented for a player around his age to just lose it. Especially one who doesn't take conditioning and off-season work as seriously as others.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) You don't need a "stopper" to win a championship. You simply need effective pitching. And, yes, I believe that Peavy can be an effective #4 in a 7-game series. With the way Danks is pitching now, he is a stopper. And he is a guy who pitches well in high-pressured games. He is the anti-Gavin Floyd.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) Actually we are about in the middle of the pack Offensively this year. 16 out of 30 in BA, lower in runs. Since the all star break we are incredibly inferior. You can't go by all MLB though since we play with a DH (who really might as well be a pitcher). In the AL, we are 12/14 based on runs.

It's clear to me in a five-game series, you go Danks-Humber-Buehrle.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:28 AM) As great of a season as he's having, Buehrle is due for a setback. Who knows what he'll have left in October? Danks-- yes, I think he'll finsih strong. Floyd-- crapshoot Peavy-- kinda sucks Mark is not due for a setback. He may have one, but he is not due. Mark has been one of baseball's best pitchers the last decade for a reason, and this year, he is getting ample rest. The rest I agree with you on, though.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:15 AM) I don't care about any year prior to this year. This is by far the best Red Sox team since '07. Until this team blows right past .500 and consistently scores at a 4.5-5.0 run a game clip, there's no business at even insinuating that they could run with Boston. The only evidence we have to this fact is how the teams have played against each other, and the White Sox flat out dominated. Boston would be favored and rightfully so, but to say the White Sox have no shot is extreme.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:11 AM) 38 games is a pretty small sample size. Viciedo would be far from the first player to show a flash of productivity and then tail off for a couple of years. Crede, who was an bona fide stud in the minors, put up an .826 OPS in 53 games in 2002, and then proceeded to drop below .750 until late 2005. Sadly this is very true, but I hope Viciedo is a different case.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) That's nice. I still think we'd have no chance. One 3-game series in 4 months doesn't do a whole lot for me. Boston is 62-29 since that 2-10 start. And they still haven't gotten jack s*** from Carl Crawford yet. Well, we played them well after their awful start. In fact, they were 13-3 in their last 16 games before facing the Sox. We still haven't gotten s*** from Dunn, our third baseman, our second baseman, CF, barely our LF and yet we still outscored them 24-14. In the last four years, the Sox are 16-9 against the Red Sox.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) You guys are putting way too much faith in Viciedo, who is far from a proven major league commodity. I like him a lot over the long run, but he's still very young and will have his ups and downs. BTW, Mike Sirotka out-pitched Wilson Alvarez down the stretch in 1997. But nobody cared, because the damage was already done. His .840 OPS last year with a horrible walk rate is pretty damn nice.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Problem is our pitching won't be facing mediocre AL central lineups. Our chances against Boston would be at about 10%. We are 3-0 against them this season, all three in Boston. This series should tell some more about the match-up, but 10% is way to low. We always play the Red Sox well.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 10:48 AM) @Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Braves view those four guys as a hugely important part of their future; I seriously doubt they would move them for any available player. He's referencing Teheran, Vizcaino, Minor and Delgado How nice would that be to have four potential stud pitchers almost ML-ready? Sigh. Granted we probably could have said that after 2000 with Rauch, Ginter and Malone to add to Garland/Buehrle/Wells.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) Bears sign another former Cowboy WR/ST, Sam Hurd. Good special teams player. But Roy Williams? He hasn't been good since 2007. He is inconsistent and has attitude problems. This signing is so meh. Mike Martz is living his career off having the best offensive talent ever assembled on one football team. He is a stubborn, relatively mediocre coach who does not adjust game plans or strategy based on opponents nor his own team's talent level.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) What's our cap figure at? Thought we had a bunch to spend and they clearly don't give a s*** about the offense so why not try to to have the best D in the league. We could most definitely afford him, but it would be at the expense of depth. Overall, I think somebody needs to go wake Jerry Angelo up from his nap and tell him that free agency started.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:08 PM) Don't want Adroys Vizcaino he's pitching with a partial tear in his elbow. He's a surgery waiting to happen. They say its just a matter of time before he needs Tommy John Surgery very similar to the Adam Wainwright who pitched with a partial tear all of last year before being shut down late August. If that's the case, then you're right. I wouldn't want him. I was just looking at his numbers/age, and they are terrific. Didn't look into his injury potential.