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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 02:46 AM) Roberto Alomar and Miguel Olivo left on awful terms. Don't you remember Alomar pretty much calling KW a liar. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope, I don't remember either leaving on bad terms. I remember Olivo crying because he didn't want to leave the White Sox organization. That should say something for the organization right there when a player doesn't want to leave so badly that he cries. How did he leave on bad terms? What did Kenny lie about according to Alomar? Please show me something or try to refresh my memory.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 02:40 AM) I truly believe things would be different had they sat Frank down and told them what their plans were. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then I trully believe you look through life drinking Frank Thomas Koolaid. You are definitely high on something. He would have found something else to complain and whine about.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 02:36 AM) Did he say anything that's not true? Or did he hit too close to home for you guys? What he has said is pretty true if you look back over the years. Ozzie, Robin, Maggs, now him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't recall Robin leaving on bad terms. I do recall a bunch of players leaving on good terms as well. Carl Everett, Aaron Rowand, Miguel Olivo, Greg Walker, Roberto Alomar, and Sandy Alomar Jr. just to name a few. Why did he not mention them?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 02:30 AM) But is Frank lying, though? We know what happened with Maggs last year. Ventura didn't leave on the best of terms. Ozzie even admitted he was pissed off at the way he left. Again, Frank should keep quiet. But is there any truth to what he's saying? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He is stating this as other organizations would have done things differently. I highly doubt that to be true. Maggs had an injury he wouldn't even let white sox doctors look at. Ventura didn't? I never heard of anything like that. Ozzie was done when he left here. What he is insinuating is wrong. He is saying it like other organizations would have kept them. What about all the players that left on good terms? Why not mention them? He is right in that they left on bad terms, but wrong for insinuating that other organiations would have handled the players differently. Kenny is lying either. Frank is a selfish idiot. I don't think there is any doubt about that.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 11:42 PM) ^^^ Exactly, Frank never attacked anyone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :banghead He didn't? He basically called them dishonest and unloyal to all players they deal with. How much more of an attack can you get? He did not "name call", but he did attack an insult the organization. I don't know how you can possibly say that.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 11:26 PM) Shut up Kenny. Please. Just STFU. Take the high road. What Frank said wasn't that bad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know what you have read, but I think they have been pretty bad. He has said some pretty mean s*** as far as the organization is the one at fault. Stating that the organization has had bad relationships with its players for years and they should start treating them better. The common denominater of all the relationships has been Reinsdorf. This may be the slap in the face that many feel Reinsdorf received from Frank. Again, I don't know what you have read, but he keeps trying to paint the White Sox as a bad organization. As a very unfriendly player organization. It is about time someone stood up in the organization and told it the way it is. That Frank is just a selfish whining little b**** boy that needs to grow the f*** up.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 11:16 PM) KW probably shouldn't have mentioned JR loaned Frank money. Other than that, fire away I say. It will be interesting to see what Frank's response is. I really think this will not be a distraction to the team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think he got personal with Frank because Frank mentioned a word for word message that Kenny left on Frank's voicemail. Frank stated in an article exactly what that message said. That probably pissed Kenny off.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:56 PM) Welcome to corporate america. They do this at a hell of a lot more firms than you know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said that they weren't. Hell, I am not even arguing with you. I simply stated that I don't agree with it.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:47 PM) A bathroom is a place of expected privacy. Where Title III comes into place with electronic survelliance is when you have an "expectation" of privacy. Our acceptable use policies are specific. Our employees have no reasonable expectation of privacy with their email or computer use. We also do not allow cameras, USB sticks, or other times that could be used to remove data or intellectual property. Again these are f***ing cub fans we are talking about. Jesus christ. Maybe we can ban the cubs suck shirts because they might offend their sense of being a cub fan. Everyone relax. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It seems to me like you are telling the wrong people to relax. Maybe your company should relax. They sound very high strung about their own employees. Cub fans or not, what you do doesn't seem right. It may be your job and what you get paid to do, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it and think that it is the right thing to be doing.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:34 PM) I don't even think about it. I don't do ANYTHING on my work computer I wouldn't care was shared with the world. I've heard those IT guys talking after a few beers.. some of them are just plain sneaky.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree completely.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:27 PM) Relax Francis.. he didn't read personal emails. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At least you spelled Francis right. He said he doesn't. It is up to you and I to believe if he does or not. I honestly don't trust that he didn't. He can say whatever he wants, but he seems devious enough to do that if he truly wants to. Say he was infatuated with someone at work or if he wanted to get revenge on a specific person at work. Would you completely trust that he would not read either of those said persons' personal email to do with it as he pleases? I wouldn't. I really don't since he does not work in my IT department. It just seems wrong.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:18 PM) I'd bet high that it's the boss looking over the IT guys shoulder reading the personal emails. Unless you're the boss, or the IT guy with the power.. bet your butt your words are being read at will. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should always assume that you are being looked at or watched on company time by the higher ups. I just don't see the need or the amusement in what SSI71 did. Reading personal emails and blocking people from legit sites seems ridicuous to me and not in the least bit funny.

I am in complete agreeance with Y2HH with everything he has said. I enjoy a good prank, but this is going a little too far. This is obviously a person with way too much time on his/her hands and a little too much power than he/she can handle at the moment.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 08:58 PM) there is this one hair in my ass crack (its a long clury hair that is planted in my left cheek) he wont shut up about the sox being destined to repeat.... i wont pluck that hair EVER! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You will/have pluck(ed) your other ass hairs?

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 03:29 PM) Screw Fox 32, they fired Bruce Wolf....Bruce was and is the man...but still good story <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that you Bruce?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 04:02 AM) I'm done w/ the topic. But I can't pass up the humor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. The humor is just too great. That is not a reflection of your thoughts and opinions at all.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 12:08 AM) Just pointing it out, I wasn't saying anything new. It wasn't taken out of context at all. The whole thing is above, for anyone who wants to read it. Judge for yrselves. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, you were trying to make it seem like it said something else. Here you are with your responses after you said you weren't going to respond anymore. Liar.

QUOTE(rventura23 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 08:59 PM) Im certainly happy with JD in right but honestly, if you were Maggs, what were the odds you would have put on the white sox winning the world series when he left (although Detroit is lower) He went for the money and it produced a major drawback <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 50-1? That is what they were when I bet on them last January. 50 bucks at 50-1 odds = $2,500. Yabba Dabba Delicious!!!!

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Next time quote me correctly or don't quote me at all. By the way, I thought you were done responding. I thought it was for real last time, seriously! Liar

Courtesy of www.dictionary.com craw Audio pronunciation of "craw" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krô) n. 1. The crop of a bird or insect. 2. The stomach of an animal. Idiom: stick in (one's) craw To cause one to feel abiding discontent and resentment.

Has anyone else posted this? If they have then I am sorry. I just found it amusing. Detroit Free Press

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 06:32 PM) Okay, I won't let this slip. Yes, he donates to causes in BOTH countries. Whoa... Maybe he didn't idolize those players because their careers were f***ing over when he was learning to play, for one thing. I can't think of many things that would surprise me less than a good hitting ss idolizing one of the best ss of his childhood, especially when it's another good hitter, something relatively rare at the ss position. But if you believe that all Latinos are blind to everything but nationality, and care more about players they've never even seen play, be my guest. And yes, the Harold Baines thing is stupid. That was the whole point. Race and nationality are equally irrelevant on the field. I knew damn well that Ozzie and Joaquin Andujar were not American, but they were still among the players I loved. "Kids that consider themselves American's would have American boyhood idols" maybe applies to you, but you're flat wrong if you think it's generally true. The fact is, he had a hard time deciding. And yet you continue to claim that it was an easy decision. This is a goddam farce. Okay, I'm really done now. Say whatever you like, but I'm not answering any more questions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He has donated to the Dominican Republic in one instance, a total of $50,000. Besides that he has not. Most of his donations, for example 3.9 MILLION to the University of Miami, are to American organizations including one that he has set up. Has he set up an organization in the Dominican Republic? Answer is NO! Explain Dale Murphy being his first idol then. I don't remember him ever playing SS for anyone. As far as I know Dale Murphy was a LFer. I idolized a lot of players that I didn't grow up watching. Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, and Bob Gibson being some of those players. It happens all the time. It is not wierd to me that a Dominican such as Miguel Tejada would have a boyhood hero such as Alfredo Griffin and an American such as A-Rod would have such a boyhood hero as Dale Murphy or Cal Ripken. That is the way things are. That is generally the way things work. That is generally true. The way you see things are not generally true at all. I too loved Ozzie when he was playing. He was a slick fielder and I liked how he seemed to be friends with everyone on the field. He was constantly talking to anyone that came by and he seemed to be involved in every discussion on the pitcher's mound. Joaquin Andujar and Ozzie Guillen played for American organizations. That is all American kids know. Most don't care about nationality unless they are taught to. This is the 2nd time I have had to tell you this. The only reason you have ever heard of either of them is because they have played for American organizations. You are not helping your case at all. Did A-Rod have this same tough choice when he was playing for the American National Junior Team? I highly doubt it. Why didn't he play for the Dominican Republic National Junior Team? Why didn't the Dominica team claim him back then? I don't think they considered him to be Dominican. They considered him an American.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 08:27 PM) Yes, I know for a fact that he has contributed to Dominican causes. In particular, after the flood a couple years ago. But you seem to have the itemized breakdown of his finances, so why don't you let us know? The Cal Ripken stuff is just dumb. A lot of American kids idolize Albert Pujols. It doesn't mean they don't care about their country. Christ... Some of my friends idolized Harold Baines. I guess they wanted to be black. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do? Ok, where did I state this? So he donated to the victims there once as far as you know? Ok, He donates every year to American foundations including a foundation that he set up himself in Miami. It is? Just dumb? Albert Pujols plays for an American organization and that is what most kids know. They don't know his nationality or heritage. Most Dominican kids that grow up in the Dominican have Americans as their boyhood idols? I would doubt this very much. I would think most Dominican's growing up, around A-Rod's age, would have idolized Juan Marichal, Felipe Alou, Cesar Cedeno, or possibly Ozzie Virgil. Kids that consider themselves American's would have American boyhood idols like A-Rod did. For example Alfredo Griffin was Tejada's boyhood idol. A-Rod had 2, both Americans. One is Dale Murhpy, which is why he wear the number 3, and the other was Cal Ripken Jr. Now you are comparing Harold Baines and wanting to be Black in this argument? This is the by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard and I have heard a lot. You are going to bring race into this argument when it has nothing to do with it? I loved Harold Baines as a child. His stance was awesome and fun to imitate. Harold Baines, as far as I know is an American and played for an American organization. In fact I know he is because I read all about him when I was younger. I read how Bill Veeck first saw him when he was playing little league around Baltimore, MD. Being dominican is not a race, it is a nationality. I never said ARod isn't Hispanic did I? No I didn't. I also never said that he wanted to be something that he isn't. He is an American. He has a Dominican citizenship too, yes, but he is an American. He did play for the Junior American team didn't he? If he always felt like he was a Dominican then why didn't he play for the Dominican Junior National team? They had a team when he was in high school. They wouldn't have wanted him? Was he not considered Dominican to them back then? Just asking.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 10:23 PM) I was talking about the parents. Good for him. I believe he's also given money to Dominican charities, and it's odd that he bothers to hold dual citizenship given such apathy for the country. What the f*** does Cal Ripken have to do with anything? Good for you. I wasn't asking about comparisons, because I don't care who you'd play for. Someone feels differently, more ambivalent -- what gives you the moral high ground? They felt it was a better opportunity, then it wasn't, then it was again. It was an economic choice. I don't see why your heart should be tied to your wage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He never mentions a boyhood idol from the Dominican does he? If he loved that country so much you think he would mention a boyhood idol from the Dominican as well. I mean he was there from the age of 4-8. That is such an impressionable age. But there is not one mention of one. Hmmmm......... You believe he does contribute to the Dominincan Republic or does he actually? I know for a fact he gives a lot more to charities in Miami and New York than he does to the Dominican Republic. The moral high ground? OK..... You know for a fact that the parents felt like it was a better opportunity to go back to the Dominican? Who knows why they chose to go back. Maybe it wasn't a choice at all, perhaps they were forced back. You don't know that for certain so don't make false observations. Who said that their heart was tied to economics. A better life and a better future does not mean just economically.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) "Try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the games look like a GOP convention. And try to blot out all logic when announcers and sportswriters pretend to care about the luge, the skeleton, the biathlon and all those other events they don’t understand and totally ignore for all but three weeks every four years. Face it: These Olympics are little more than a marketing plan.” If a white announcer said " The paucity of whites makes it look like a NAACP convention" He would be fired the next day. Gumbel is a f***in douchebag. Some of these atheltes work their entire lives to be on the olympic team and they are not the world's greatest atheltes cause it isn't a black dominated sport?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am probably in the minority here, but I actually agree with him on his last line. Face it: These Olympics are little more than a marketing plan. Besides hockey the winter olympics suck ass. I am not saying that they aren't athletes at the winter olympics, there just aren't many good events or events that I find interesting.