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Borchard is faster. I've watched him take off. On that play he's safe by a mile. I couldn't possibly watch anymore games cause I see all of them in some shape of form, minus the WCIU games (Hell everyone needs a break to go to the pool or beach every once in a while; Plus my friends get sick of hearing me talk about the Sox and seeing the games, lol) Borchard did good on that play and would of been safe. All I'm saying is Jose would of got the stop sign too. Both would of scored on the play and I agree Jose takes great angles. When I played ball I was never the fastest, but when it came to running the bases I always had the best times cause I made the bannana turn right and was always moving and new how to cut the angle perfectly. Since I didn't see Joe the whole way I can't say if he had a good jump, but with the location of that ball he should of been running the whole way. If only we had a replay we could say. If I was wrong, I'd gladly admit and I won't say Jose isn't a good baserunner. I think he does plenty of things that would make him fine off the BENCH as an ocassional starter/dh.

I think Borchard would of scored. There is no way I wouldn't of been sending Joe. BS...he DIDN'T SCORE and that's EXACTLY the point...Jose scores from 1st on doubles and 2nd on singles as well as anyone in the league. Alas, people only start appreciating it when Sox can't score on 3 long singles in the Metrodome with the game on the line... Jose will finish the year with 85+ RBI, you can bank on it. He also has only 1 eror in his last, what, 17 games. ONE. Umm, he misplayed a ball about two days ago that sent the Sox into extra's against the Twins and I can remember a few more errors lately, I think. I watch almost every game, so I don't pay much attention to stats and there is NOTHING I trust more then my eyes considering how often I watch. I got a ton of confidence in them, lol. Jose isn't a good player. Ask NON Sox fans if Jose is good and you'll get a much more rational answer and that would be NO. For some reason Sox fans get this fascination that he's a great player and he isn't. He sucks defensively and sucks offensively. He has about a hot month that keeps his avg up over an entire season, otherwise he's bad. Look at last season and you'll notice that Clayton was out hitting him for a bit. At least expecting Frank to pick up was reasonable. He was coming off an injury. Jose was HEALTHY last year. Frank was coming off an injury and started seeing the ball and whacking it for a full month. You just assumed he was finally back from his injury. Tearing your labrum or whatever he tore (Bicep?) and having to sit out a full season is way harder then a hammy injury where your still able to play. It has an effect, but once your healthy there isn't much of a rehab cause you haven't missed a full season of timing and seeing live pitching.

so does Jose say thank you after you suck it off, or does he drop a ball on your head to let you know he finished? Your rapier wit knows bounds....feel humbled by actual numbers from 2001-2002? I bet. Right now Jose is simply not seeing the breaking ball early. A few tweaks, few extra sessions with the BI and he will be fine. He is healthy finally and has SS all to himself. As bad as he has been thus far, he is still out-perfoming Konerko, Crede, Rios, Daubach. Harris, Olivo, etc ABRE LOS OJOS, AMIGO! And he is proving me right that he should never of had the opportunity to have shortstop all to himself. He's mediocre player. Look through his attitude and you'll see he hurts this team, doesn't help it. He's far from the only one, but I put him as one of the major problems with Konerko and Thomas. Then I have White, who sucks horribly, but isn't near as much of a let down as those three. Although I never expected a damn thing from Jose. I've wanted the Sox to trade for a shortstop and 2nd baseman for a long long time now. I can only hope we get Almazenga from the Angels in a trade or something like that.

People still make excuses for Thomas sucking too and at least Thomas isn't killing the team defensively because he's a dh. Thomas can also manage to get an obp over .300 no matter how crappy he is.

I think Borchard would of scored. There is no way I wouldn't of been sending Joe. BS...he DIDN'T SCORE and that's EXACTLY the point...Jose scores from 1st on doubles and 2nd on singles as well as anyone in the league. Alas, people only start appreciating it when Sox can't score on 3 long singles in the Metrodome with the game on the line... Jose will finish the year with 85+ RBI, you can bank on it. He also has only 1 eror in his last, what, 17 games. ONE. How could he score if they hold him up. he can't run through the stop sign. He would of been way safe. I didn't have a freaking clue why they held him up. Valentin is slower then Borchard so I don't think he would of scored because he would of also gotten the stop sign. I know you don't want to make that out, but in that situation you got to be going for the run trying to make something happen. Lord knows the Sox don't hit with two outs.

He's hitting about .215 with RISP this season. Anyone watch that sequence in the ninth. Like I said, three straight curves and the whiff. Also their is no such thing as an error that isn't costful. No matter what it makes a pitcher throw at least an extra pitch or two. Well I guess you could get a dp on the very next pitch, but thats unlikely. A run may not score, but you have to face more batters, extend the pitcher, etc. It also hurts the mindset of the club. Jose's defense and offense are definately some of the problems. I've never given a hoot about his offense and have always hated his defense. Konerko is stinking at both, Thomas stinks at both. Crede, Olivo, Borchard, aren't the problems. YOU DON"T BLAME ROOKIES. Valentin isn't a rookie, he's been in this league and you don't just get better at 34 or however damn old he is; it isn't likely to happen at least. Valentin is and always will be a mediocre to crappy shortstop who has heart. That means crap on a losing team. heart is a great thing to have when your coming off the bench for a winner. Problem is the Sox aren't a winner and he isn't coming off the bench. You want a winning team, get fundementally sound guys. YOUR NUTS if you think Val is a fundementally sound player. Val, Thomas and Konerko along with White should be the first to go. Lee then goes to first.

He's hitting about .215 with RISP this season. Anyone watch that sequence in the ninth. Like I said, three straight curves and the whiff.

I think Borchard would of scored. There is no way I wouldn't of been sending Joe.

Borchard walked. Rios was pulling the outside pitch every single time up. Carlos Lee is looking really good as of late. I stick to my idea of moving him to first. The thing is its going to be so hard to get someone else to take Thomas and Konerko cause part of the answer is getting rid of the two of them. Remember, we can't blame KW for having Thomas around.

Is that how much he is owed? If so we pay him pretty well. I can't wait for Backman to come here. I don't think Backman will solve the things, but he will make things happen next year and is going to be a good manager to lead the rebuilding process.

They sure have been winning 60% of the time lately Also, lets note that once again it is the curve that gets him out. Like I always say, he can't hit curveballs.

What is even more sad is Magglio getting a leadoff double and never getting his foot off 2nd. Daubach should of been bunting or trying to pull the ball the entire at bat, ensuring that when Crede was up all it would take is a sac fly to get a run. Manuel never does these things and with a struggling offense you have to just take things one run at a time.

They were safe at 2nd and 3rd. The play at the plate was close but they were also safe. Miguel Olivo then turend around to argue letting the runner go to 3rd. This leads to the 3rd run, which wouldn't of scored on the other hand, to come in to score. In all honesty, Sox should of gotten out of that without a run. Jimenez did a hell of a job, and I still don't know how they weren't able to make the tag. Jimenez should of gloved it, but he kept the ball in front of him, made a solid throw, and damn. Jimenez is due up now.

Welcome aboard. Love the avatar.

Rios does his best DH impression by hitting into a double play. I never noticed it, but his bat is like twice the size of him.

Carlos Rips a single to start things off. He's hitting in the two hole for those who don't know it. Rios is in the 3 hole as the Designated Hitter. Daubach is at first, so Konerko and Thomas aren't playing.

I drank 2 . i wasnt throwing up. But SOMEBODY WAS. Geeze I wonder who that was Beavis. Not Ian this time. Lol....I hope you didn't have to pick up all those messes RPS. Heck, you may just want to put out some plastic trashbags and just let Ian and Beavis do their usual and you won't have to worry about any messes That are just really water down their s***

Maggs just makes a real good catch following a nice play by Joe Crede; two outs now. Daubach makes a good play down the line to end the inning. Into the fourth, tied at 1. Also, Borchard ended the no hitter

Ya it was hammered. Was up 3-0, then fouled off a few pitches and bam. Dead center, probably 460 feet plus.

That was unbelievable. Absolutely hammered. Thats what I'm talking about.

Damn, Joe Borchard crushes a bomb. This was remeniscent of his first career homer which was hit here. Damn, great job Joe He better be playing both games when I see him in LA in a week.

I drank 2 . i wasnt throwing up. But SOMEBODY WAS. Geeze I wonder who that was

Believe it or not, he IS a nice guy. He's been to my house. I've never had an issue with anyone over there. Daver has even helped me out on some non baseball related things. I think it might be the age gap that caused a rift in this case.. but what the hell do I know Oh, but i think he sucks as a mod. That's just because i dont like anyone telling me to be have. So true so true, RPS. We've known that all along. I can just imagine what would happen if Uncle Jerry would tell you guys how to run SnR. If we have to go out, we're going out in a blaze of glory. we said that from day 1. I wonder if that blaze of glory will look a lot like your signature

Its alright Alex, I'll let you become a Hawkeye Fan

Believe it or not, he IS a nice guy. He's been to my house. I've never had an issue with anyone over there. Daver has even helped me out on some non baseball related things. I think it might be the age gap that caused a rift in this case.. but what the hell do I know Oh, but i think he sucks as a mod. That's just because i dont like anyone telling me to be have. So true so true, RPS. We've known that all along. I can just imagine what would happen if Uncle Jerry would tell you guys how to run SnR.