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Man, I wish BO wouldn't of got hurt. That guy was amazing.

Lol, thats the spirit

Simpsons, now thats a classic cartoon. I forget which one was on last night, but it was hillarious. Wait, I remember, it was the one where Homer and Mr. Burns flea to Cuba with the trillion dollar bill. Ahh, true classics.

Shows sounding great.

Sorry Roman bout deleting the post, but lets keep that to the thread. Some may not want to join in on it. Hopefully Mike and Guido see it. By the way, you got mail.

Turner simply owns a lot of stock, but he doesn't have any say in what the Braves do anymore. I don't think he's pleased with it either.

Thanks so much Jjav. Awesome job recapping it. Interesting to hear that about Buerhle...It sounds like they'll just live with paying him every year, if he doesn't want to go long term, but it isn't their fault for not trying. Hopefully Mark will think things over and decide he wants to be a Sox for a long time, if not, then the Sox will have to think of something up in a couple years. Also interesting to hear they were interested in Moyer, and how they didn't like Byrd too much. I thought it was a pretty informative interview.

Blackhawks got a ton of young talent. I may actually have to watch one of their games when they are on national tv to see the new faces. I don't get many hawks games where I am, I can only look at the box scores.

I still don't see what everyone has against Osuna. He pitched real good, and was able to go multiple innings out of the pen. He also did this in his first year back from an injury. His velocity was coming back later in the year, and he should only be better this year. If Osuna is healthy him and Marte comprise of one of the best 7th and 8th inning duo's in baseball, with Koch getting the 9th. Glover is another guy I think is a damn good set up man. I do agree though, Ritchie has the stuff to be a damn good reliever.

You mean you got money in your knees? My knees aren't too hot either, mailny from soccer.

After today, the post will be heading for the off topic board. I'm hoping everyone has gotten all their anger out. This was a thearaputic thread or however the f*** you spell it.

You heard it from me first. Beane is going downhill. It starts with the Lidle trade, progresses with the Koch trade, and then really starts with the Durazo trade. Although the Durazo trade could turn out great.

I thought he tore his acl or something, maybe I'm wrong though.

They have been playing real good lately and are fighting for a playoff spot. The big difference is that they changed their lineup. The road record should improve now that Marshall is playing more, as is Fizer and Crawford.

Heres one deal I could think of. Liefer for Ashby. The Dodgers are looking to dump Ashby who is due to make 7.75 mill this final year. He'd be much better then Astachio, imo, and is a veteran that would help the Sox. The question is would JR be willing to take on that much extra salary.

This is a better team then the one that played real good the last part of the season. Another starter would help immensly but this is still a team that will battle the Twins for a playoff spot.

That would probably be around the time they actually sign one of the veteran catchers that should be left. They may also sign someone to a minor league deal around that time. JB, hint hint.

Everyone, I'm going to reiterate here that Josh Fogg is nothing. People figured him out in the second half of last season and he will be nothing more then a 5th starter on a bad team. This guy isn't very good. Kip is decent, but I Don't even know if he will turn into anything that great. He is the only guy that I regret giving up and I will stick to that gun. Everyone who cried over losing Lowe, well that was obviously nothing. I think we can all admit that now. Fogg, ya, you can still say he's going to be good, but I don't buy it. Kip was the only thing we gave up of value and well, he's done good, and the trade would of been real good for us had Ritchie pitched like expected. Ritchie sucked though, but if he redeems himself this year, then the deal will basically turn into a wash or at least not as horrible as everyone says. We didn't give them any cy young award winners or anything like that. Would we like to have Kip back, probably, but I think their are many out their that believe Kip would of never amounted to a hill of beans if he stayed in our organization. He made a bad trade, but everyone, thats life. Plenty of bad deals go down. The A's traded Hinske (The Great Billy Beane) although he did it to get Billy Koch, you don't see everyone crying over that. The Indians dealt Giles, Burnitz and other talented players, but you don't see people continually singlehandedly blaming that move. Also, to say KW depleted the farm system is wrong, because most everyone he dealt never amounted to anything at the major league level. Some of the guys in our system we will use, others go on to help us in other ways. Our organization is still stocked at pitching and the key guys for us to hold onto are the ones that can make it into the rotation. The ones that don't look like they will fit that bill should be hyped and eventually dealt for talent that can help our major league club. You can call me a KW Backer(Although Their are plenty of things I disagree with, namely the fact that he had snitches, so to say). I can't blame him for the Clayton deal. I remember so many people talking about how great that move was, it would shore up our defense. Well it did shore up the defense, but Clayton didn't mesh with the clubhouse. You could say we dealt JB, but what has he done since, plus he wasn't going to come back. He wanted a lot of money so we got Majewski in return (Pitched good, but was just snubbed in the Rule 5). KW has gotten us Willie Harris for Chris Singleton, what a great move that was. Harris has good value and has the potential to be a very good 2nd baseman and threat at the top of the order. He's gotten us Jimenez and Marte. He drafted Honel (This guy is a stud, many think he's the best prospect in all of the minors). KW has done some bad things, but he hasn't killed this team. One trade don't kill a franchise, especially one where you didn't even give up a cy young award winner or perenial all star. If their is someone out their to blame, blame JR. KW has made his faults, but he's looking like he's learning. Go for it, jump on him for not pulling down the Ortiz deal, but right now I can't say he even had an offer on the table. Just cause those names come out don't mean that was the Giants offer and KW turned it down. Rogers never said that. Say that he stalled and its why the Braves made the better offer (I don't see anyone reporting this happenened), but lets admit that the Braves offer blew our offer away. Moss was a damn good lefty, thats 26 and was dominating in his rookie year and they gave up a top 10 prospect in their organization. Blame him for not getting Colon, but last I looked the Yanks or Bosox(Two teams that are always out their trying) haven't exactly gotten him either. It isn't his fault KW won't give him the money to add pitchers. Do you honestly think he wouldn't make a push at a nice free agent if JR told him he had the money to do it? Trust me, any gm would go out and sign a free agent pitcher if the owner let him, they'd be nuts not to. In Closing, Hope I don't piss off too many people with this post, but its how I feel.

Right now I'd say he would be my favorite free agent pick up because I think he has very good stuff and holds hitters down. If he can pitch with control he's nasty.

Well I stick to my opinion. He's a goon and all, but I don't care who we had has gm, I still wouldn't see the Sox going out and getting a ton of great players. It comes down to ownership.

Ya, the Dodgers were interested, but what do they have to offer? I'd take Guillermo Mota, they'd be nuts to give us him though.

I'd love getting Giles, but if the Sox are going to add payroll, I'd like to see it done around a pitcher. Still, Giles would give us an amazing lineup and would add left handed power. If the Pirates were willing to dump him without getting one of our top prospects, I'd do it, and just sign someone like Person for a mill. Either way, I am happy with the team and as long as we add one pitcher(Right now I don't even care who it is if its via free agency) and then get a back up catcher I'll be happy. If we get Orlando Palmerio, I'll be excited.

Come on Michelle, not all Sox fans whine. A lot of them simply expect the Sox to do something bad. Luckily, I'm one of the few of us that is optimistic. I think I got to go steal some more of that Cubbie Koolaid

Well, the only reason I can think of him in not telling us, is he doesn't want to make the players who were involved feel bad or something. Still, he could at least say what the timeline was and if it was true he turned down this deal or if this was a legitimate deal offered.

I do think thats what many said about Mark Buerhle too. Well, I wasn't on any boards at that time, but I'm assuming thats how it was. The guy isn't exactly glowing with ace stuff, he just flat out knows how to pitch and mixes everything so well. He doesn't have any great pitches, just a lot of good ones that he can spot. I'm hoping Stewart is the same way.