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I will say this...one thing, more then anything concerns me...it is the Pace/Fox disconnect. If Fox & Pace aren't on the same page, then one of them needs to be shown the door. Why have a season with a coach who is on the way out...especially when you have a young QB who needs to get developed (and it would behoove us to learn from the Cutler fiasco and provide said QB with a consistent system, etc). I think, more then any position, when you take a QB that early, you need to be on board with your offensive system and coaches, to ensure you lay out the best foundational path for success. If Fox wasn't that (and I can understand that answer), then we should have moved on from him in the off-season.

Last year, right after the draft, I saw pundits rating the Rams draft an A-. What would those same pundits say today? On the flipside, they all ripped last years Eagle's draft...which I think if you had a do-over, people would agree that Wentz has some real upside and was probably worthy of going where he did (yes, he struggled the second half of the year...but the talent was certainly on display). What if the Bears picked Allen @ #3...most people would have been happy...but fast-forward and watch the draft...we would find out that we could have traded down ~15 picks and be able to get that same guy (which is a pretty steep disconnect). Had we picked Allen @ 3...we technically would have overdrafted him by far more value then what we gave up to move from 3 to 2. If Pace believed Trubisky was the franchise QB, then I don't disagree with the notion that you don't sit around and wait for that guy to get there, you ensure you get that guy. Last year a lot of people ripped the move up to get Floyd...reality was, if we hadn't made that move, he would have been taken and well, Pace was right on getting Floyd (at least after one year it looks that way...of course that could all change).

QUOTE (bmags @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:54 AM) The only way they'd be certain someone else had an offer on the pick is if another team traded up and they lost out on who they wanted. A year from now, we are all going to be excited because we stocked up on picks next draft (you can book it).

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:14 AM) I actually like all of the picks. They didn't have enough of them though which happens when you trade up for a QB. They did sign 3 UDFA's that could make the team though. I don't understand the national narrative that says Pace will get fired though. He had a great draft last year. Taking the QB this high buys him more time. Pace absolutely gets a 2nd head coach while in Chicago. If Trubisky is terrible, Pace will end up getting fired but we are like 3-4 years from that IMO. I think the thing that gives me hope is that Pace really had a great draft last year. It takes time...I'm not going to call out the mob because of draft grades now...draft grades a year from now and 3 years from now, sure, then I'll get upset (or happy), depending on the result. This is a process and I believe in being patient. Pace could be awful, but when you pick a guy to be GM, you need to give him time and you need to buy into the LT plan. You constantly flip direction and you will always be mediocre. Best franchises have consistency / continuity, and while they probably have smart people, I don't know how much of the success is driven by distinctively better smarts vs. just the benefits of consistency (i.e, scouts know what coaches need and what fits said "system", etc.). I'm not trying to downplay smarts, but luck plays a fact, especially in an early window of success. I think it is easier to have sustained winning, when you have consistent systems, processes, etc.

Call it a hunch...I think Gar is going to get fired.

Total bummer. Get better Adam!

Total bummer. Get better Eaton!!!

Holland with a nice start and Abreu with a monster game. Big HR for Melky to bail out Robertson or the blown save. Another big win!!! Don't stop now boys!!!

I recognize RB's can get hurt...but this is yet another year where we draft RB. I'd prefer to have gone another direction, especially given how good Howard was.

I predict we go DB & Wr with two of our next 3 picks. Desmond King is who I'd take next. I really think he's undervalued and is a good fit for f**nio's system (plus he has a knack for finding the ball).

Love it. Keep it up boys!!! It stood out to me during spring training, just how much of an upgrade Renteria was. He just has this "it" feel as as mgr., especially when compared to Robin. You could hear him all over the diamond during spring and just see the "passion" for the game and managing at all times. Focus on fundamentals, etc. This won't keep up, but its great to see, and you just never know. We have other young players who are going to come up at different points and if Avi can keep mashing, awesome. I know people have pointed out a lot of Avi's stats look "fluky", but he is crushing the ball and he's drastically changed is "pull" ratio and that was a huge weakness of is (inability to hit the inside pitch). What he used to struggle with, he is now hammering, so even if his swing percentages, etc., are unchanged, statistically he is pulling the ball more and is hitting it harder when he does "pull" it.

Bears are still a couple years away...surround the QB with a great weapon. Shaheen has potential to be darn good.

Big physical TE. I like the position...I would have preferred to trade down, accumulate more picks, and then go on my TE / DB blitz.

Dang...I wanted the Utah safety to fall. He's going to be good, imo.

I wouldn't be shocked if we danced again. Going back to...lots of depth in this draft and we can start to accumulate as many picks as possible within late 2nd and 4th.

And just like that...we get some picks back.

Cards probably taking Kizer. I wonder what we got.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB. I could see them going TE (or even Robinson as an LT). But yes...I think they will trade down (unless they really have a high grade on a guy there at the time).

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:21 AM) I'm not mad at the pick, just the price. I know Pace got played on picks but it seemed like today there was a lot of overpays. Not excusing it, but he wasn't the only one And I agree with Rowand, this took some balls and Pace hitched his wagon to Trubisky who loves kissing women chest parts One thing to remember is...no one thought the Bears were taking a QB @ 3. That includes most other teams. My guess is they were getting calls from teams looking to move up to get a QB (or other player) and one of those teams was the Browns (who had no idea Bears were in on Trubisky and who thought Bears were moving down...because Bears didn't want Browns to take Trubisky one...they wanted Browns to think they could get "cute" and get both of there guys). When Pace was hearing the offers from the Browns, he probably knew, if he wasn't willing to deal, then the Browns might (or were) also talking to Niners (and there could be other teams in the equation as well), so with that, he had Trubisky as the franchise guy and moved up to make sure he got him. I could definitely see the above scenario playing out...it could be nonsense too.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 08:40 PM) This s*** is just emotionally exhausting. I mean I'm 29 - he was 63. I realize that's not out of the ordinary or anything. He wasn't old but people die at that age as well. This is the first time I've been hit with an unexpected death close to me though, and it makes you wonder how people deal with it, especially people with even less resources, even less prepared for it. I've realized how lucky I am to have the support system I do around me, especially at work, but, you know, it still sucks. I lost my best friend and my father. I'd give this a 0/10. Would not recommend. I'm here if you need to talk, etc. Prayers with you and your family.

I said months ago there would be a handful of QB's who went in the 1st round...3 in first 12 picks. A lot of people thought none in the first round and I kept saying everyone was delusional. Right or wrong...who knows, but no position can impact a game more then QB. We haven't invested in it...we need to invest in it. None of us know whether the Browns were trying to move up with San Fran...that is the only team (I presume) who we would have been bidding against. None of us will know...but if Pace looked at the board and had Trubisky ...... and a gap before the next guys...then it is a price worth paying for him. Now we have to hope he is right. It is a process and we are going to be bad for another couple years and we'll get some high picks in future years (cause we aren't going to playoffs this year or next at a minimum). So back to the point...Pace has to feel relatively comfortable.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 06:36 PM) I have to wonder if the McCaskeys had any influence on this move. Like they demanded a QB and liked Mitch? There were some reports a while back saying Pace had been assured ownership stood behind him and were going to be patient with the process.

Watson is probably going to the Texans.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) Cleveland trades down, so pre draft rumors seem to be true that browns wanted garrett and then wanted to move down . Bears clearly bid against themselves. Or they wanted Trubisky and ultimately couldn't get him from Bears (or didn't actually think the Bears wanted Trubisky).

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 06:23 PM) This draft is deep in the middle and we trade away picks? Moronic. I would imagine we move back in the 2nd round.