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Are any of those good prospects? Seems like Kendrick would be a decent bet for a bounce back yeard and he'd have some value at the deadline (more so then what the Dodgers got).

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Similar to last season, Diamond club is going to temporarily close. Given how quickly hot stove action can move and based upon the resoundingly positive feedback we received last year, we wanted to go back to making PHT all about the off-season (plus other Sox related news). Given how a signing of a guy to another team (or a deal with another team) can directly impact the Sox, having everything in one spot only makes sense, imo. We'll adjust how we organize the threads based upon your feedback and how things are flowing and as always, let us know your thoughts.

Butler played fantastic down the stretch. I also liked the aggression that Lopez and Rondo played with. Offense looked much better, that said, defensively, we need to play a lot more consistent. That wasn't exactly a dynamic Miami offense they were going against. Nice to get the road win on a back to back. I'm hoping this extended road trip to come helps allow these guys to gel. I get the feeling we will see Gar/Pax pull a decent size trade at some point this year (with the long-term in mind). My presumption is we will see the Bulls move Niko (not sure how much value he has given his pending free agency).

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) If Mike Pence tries to push a religious agenda down our throats, I'm ready to go to war. Honestly, I don't see Trump letting other people push him around with there agendas. If there is one thing I am confident about, it is that he is his own man. He's going to listen to people (absolutely), but I don't see him just getting pushed around by everyone. Doesn't seem his style at all. He's going to do what he thinks is best just like he largely didn't think / ignored most of the advisers on his path to election.

Obama had handled all of this with extreme class. I don't tend to agree with his policies, but I legitimately praise the man for how he carried himself and went about his business as president.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) I'm praying he shocks everyone and really does prevent any anti-LGBT laws and he tries to help minorities that are here legally. If he can do that he would actually be really, really good for the party going forward and he could have an 8 year stay. Going after illegal immigrants won't hurt him, even with minorities (as the election showed). But not bridging the divide domestically will be very bad for him for 2020 and the party beyond. I agree.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) This is both brilliant and lunacy in the same policy. Like I said, there are actually lots of good things in his plan (again, my opinion), but there are others that are just crazy and others which while they sound great, are probably in reality impossible to do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:54 AM) He was literally promising to make every one of their dreams come true at his rallies. He's a conman and tens of millions of Americans bought into it. I think you still don't get what happened. He didn't conman tens of millions of Americans, he was the outsider who was different and different outweighed general views of policies. Yes, he made lots of promises (sometimes even contradicting promises) but he talked and talked about change, he talked and talked about bringing jobs back to the rust belt. He talked about stronger immigration...yes in many cases he talked about more extreme stances, but the biggest thing was, he was not a politician and that was what got him elected. I have a lot of the frustrations that the American people have that led them to vote for Trump, the problem was I couldn't turn out those frustrations in a candidate like Trump (I wish there was a better outsider option). But the reality is what the reality is and we now are in this world. We need to see what he does and if he does bad things, then everyone needs to realize maybe we need to do more as a country to make this a better place, to move things, forward, etc. More importantly, people need to work together and that includes our politicians who over the past 12 years have done very little when it comes to economic stimulating policy. They've essentially left it in the fed to give you pain killers while doing nothing to actually solve the problem (90+% of economists would agree with that take). I'm not putting blame on one side or the other, just saying no one wants to work with each other and they will all claim it is the other parties fault.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) Trump personally doesn't seem to actively dislike LGBT. But he also doesn't really care about it very much, as evidenced by his VP choice being extremely anti-LGBT and letting the Family Research Council write the GOP's plank on anti-LGBT. He'll appoint whatever conservative justice his advisers tell him, and he's surrounded himself with people who are anti-LGBT. Why would the GOP update their social views? They won. But the GOP didn't win on their historical views. I don't quite know what views it won on, but it didn't win on that. Trump evidently re-wrote a lot of his victory speech (which I actually thought was a pretty good speech) to supposedly make it more mainstream. No idea how true that is or not.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) Some reasonable stuff, and some lunacy as well. But he didn't really mean he was building a literal wall! And some of the stuff in there, isn't really what you would see out of most conservatives. It is why I wonder if the reality of Trump will differ from the guy trying to get elected. Maybe that is just me hoping. Also, aren't there a lot of reports that Trump isn't all that happy with Pence. A lot of it has to do with the fact that he hasn't specifically thanked him like he did so many of the other people who helped him on the campaign.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Ya and she got bludgeoned in the electorate by Donald Trump despite having all of Washington DC, almost every media outlet, popular celebrities, billionaires all backing her. Dems got slaughtered down ballot too. Mark Kirk and Kelly Ayotte are two of the bigger GOP losers and they were 2 of the most vocal never Trumpers. Having chatted with Kelly Ayotte one-on-one on multiple ocassions, she was a very good women and candidate. It is too bad she lost. She is the type of person who I think could have a big role in this country going forward (maybe not now, but a few years from now). I wouldn't be shocked if 8 or 12 years from now she was running for president.

Some items in Trumps 100 day plan are very unconservative like, such as the tax credit and matching for daycare funds. I'm really interested to see who actually gets cabinet positions and how his stance changes now that he is president. If it doesn't change, then we got big problems, if it does change, then I do agree there are things that the government needs to do and act on and that should happen under this admin. The key to me is that you don't just repeal to repeal, you repeal with a real plan in mind that will put us in a better spot. There is a lot on Trumps 1st 100 day list that I can actually agree with, others that I don't agree with, and others that while they sound good, probably aren't actually realistic.

I kind of think he's the type of guy that might get a better pull at the trade deadline (presuming he has a bit better of a year this year as he should be more adjusted to the league). That said, obviously safer to move now (when the risk of injury or falling of a cliff isn't viable).

Well Donald, you won. I didn't vote for you and I didn't want you to win. I hope you prove me wrong and go on to be an amazing president. And for all the politicians out there, I hope every one saw what happened and realized Donald is here because of the republicans and democrats who failed to work together to make America better. I hope we see a much more moderate Trump from here on out and that ultimately his policies will end up falling more in the middle. We shall see, but as an American, I hope you do an amazing job.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 08:02 PM) What's funny is how true this actually is. People severely underestimate the racism in this country. This is a sad, sad day. Kids my age are now left to deal with this mess. I think we underestimated how fed up people were in this country as I think there are a lot of people voting trumpncause they hate our politicians. Not because they agree with Trump but purely because they hate what our politicians had turned into.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 07:59 PM) I can't even make a sarcastic remark to you. I'm sorry. I ended up voting for Hillary, but as I feared Trump is a cockroach that survives everything. At this point I just have to pray trump doesn't believe all the s*** he sold and he cond America and really won't do much as president.

Trump will do it. It is over. f*** me.

I assume Trump will win until proven otherwise.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I think we could be sellers and still make all of those moves. I agree those could be moves of sellers with one exception, Beltran. He isn't signing a deal with a team he knows will be bad. He'll go to a team where he thinks they at least have a chance at contending.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) Wilson and McPhee both came off the PUP list. Now in the NFL, you just place people on season ending IR and you have the option to bring one player back. Fuller and White are both eligible. Pace basically said he thinks White will be back by week 13. So yes, Fuller probably misses the year and gets dealt in the offseason. Such a dumb rule. Given all the stuff about player safety, I don't really understand why they limit it so much. I would think at least having two spots back would make sense (while freeing up roster spots for others). Is the fear you would just hide people on this IR or something?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) i thought i heard Hub talking about adding and removing people from the IR, and you only had so many you could remove from the IR and activate. Basically what he was saying was if McPhee, Wilson and later White return, then Fuller will not play a down this season. I may have misheard that, but that would truly show that Foxco wants zero part of Fuller, which is insane considering the state of their CBs I believe Wilson can come back and it has no impact on Fuller or White, however, for those players who got hurt during the season (and who weren't out all of training camp) and you could only reactivate one of those (with Fuller & White both being in that camp, so the Bears can only pick one).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 6, 2016 -> 04:46 PM) So I am about 98% for sure that my 2004 Impala that I drove off of the lot new back in Jan 2004 is toast. I think the transmission is shot. It won't even shift in to a gear now, and it revs the engine like it is trying to go, but it won't grab a gear. Anyways, I am doing a quick look for a replacement. There is a dealership in town that specializes in cars coming off of leases with slightly high miles. I have a lead on a 2015 Jetta SE. The guy let me take it home for the weekend Saturday morning for a test drive. It has 36k miles on it, but he is asking only 12,900 for it. That blows away the prices I have seen anywhere else like on carmax or any of the local dealerships by a couple of thousand dollars for a similar mileage/option situation. After driving it around a bit, I really like it. I had a Mailbu for a rental a couple of months ago after my Impala was sideswiped by an old man, and it was OK. The Jetta blows it away IMO. I am curious if anyone else out there has experience with the line. I know they are cheap because of the Diesel scandal, but this is an automatic gasoline engine with the 2.0L engine in it. Thoughts? So Mike, my general view of Jetta's is they are absolutely pieces of s***. Maintenance and issues galore. I have known few people who owned Jetta's over the years (not necessarily this line, so things could change) and every one indicated they would never own another Jetta. They loved the cars when they bought them too. Please note my comments are more towards stuff built within 2000-2010 so I don't know anyone who has ventured in the past few years, so they could have made improvements.