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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Its all relative. At the time Michigan lost to Iowa, Iowa was un-ranked. I really think that the only chance the Big10 has is if Washington or Clemson lose. I think that the Big10 teams end up canceling each other out. I don't buy that argument at all. I do agree with you that for a second team to get in, Washington or Clemson has to lose. Personally, I don't think Clemson should be in.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) Big10 is not likely getting 2 teams. The only way is if Wisconsin destroys PSU. Michigan lost to Iowa. I really have no complaints about Wisconsin being out, they choked against OSU. But Michigan getting in over Wisconsin would be stupid. Michigan lost 2 of its last 3 games, Wisconsin only lost 2 games and both were with their best LB (Biegel) being injured. I just cant see how you can get passed Michigan losing to Iowa, a bad loss should be worse than losing a close game to a top 5 team on the road. If Michigan doesnt lose to Iowa, Big10 probably gets 2 teams. OSU and the winner of Michigan/Wisconsin, but it would just set a terrible precedent if the big 10 gets 2 teams and neither were in the championship. How is Iowa a bad loss? Last I looked, they lost to a team on the road which is currently ranked in the top 25 (and is coming off crushing a ranked Nebraska team)? I'm not saying Iowa is great, but they certainly aren't a bad team or a bad loss. Wisconsin clearly has better "losses" but by no stretch of the imagine can I cal that Iowa game a bad loss.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Isn't one of the issues the elimination of draft pick compensation for unrestricted free agents ? If the Sox trade Sale or anyone else that the acquiring team has for a full season the current CBA says that teams is entitled to a draft pick when the player turns down a qualifying offer and chooses unrestricted free agency. So wouldn't this affect the trade value of Sale , Quintana, Eaton and possibly Frazier if the acquiring team doesn't get a draft pick when those player elect unrestricted free agency after spending a season or more with the teams they are traded to. Basically doesn't it make those players worth slightly less if the team acquiring them doesn't have a draft pick to look forward to when they walk ? By all reports the sticking point is more the negotiation as to how much value the removal of the compensation should bring (i.e,. what do the owners get for giving that up). Either way, the only thing expected to go away is the fact that the signing team would physically give away the pick. All reports indicate that the team that loses the players would still get a compensation pick (it just wouldn't be the other teams and instead would be a new pick granted...presumably a sandwich pick after the 1st round (or at least that is what I imagine). So in general, the actual loss of a pick should have minimal value. That said, I think more of the delay is more tied to the fact that until you have certainty over the CBA, there is just a lot of general hesitation to do much until the uncertainty is gone.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) And as noted a possibility in the article I linked. 3m Ken Rosenthal‏ @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: Owners have backed off the international draft as a requirement for a new collective-bargaining agreement. If this has happened, a deal will get done or at least I would think it would. Nothing else is out there that I would see being worth the owners locking out the players and dealing with the PR that comes with it (especially following such a highly rated post-season).

I keep wondering why this has gotten such little play. I presume the owners will eventually cave on the international draft. That is the real sticking point in the entire equation (in the sense that they need to give something pretty good back to the players union and thus far I don't think the qualifying pick change is quite enough).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) CSN Chicago ‏@CSNChicago 24m24 minutes ago #Bears linebacker Danny Trevathan done for season with ruptured patellar tendon http://bit.ly/2gCQpgG (@CSNMoonMullin) #BearsTalk This sounds like the type of injury that could impact his future effectiveness. Injuries in football are brutal, but man, this year for the Bears is beyond brutal. Get better Danny T.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Manfred said it would be natural to wrap u the negotiations on the new agreement before free agency begins so everyone knows what the rules will be. There most likely will be something done with the QO system. Seems like the pick will still go to the team that loses, but the buying team won't lose the pick (which does slightly hurt competitive balance, imo, since it is more likely the higher market teams are buying and now they get to buy and keep the pick).

Appreciate sharing the news. Any word on who the Dodgers are dangling? Any word on if the package is just Sale or if Frazier and/oor Robertson are included as well?

I have Fire TV. Its nice.

I like Brasoban as a good fit for a guy who we could turn into a very effective reliever. Erik Wood is another very intriguing name (3B).

Remember...this is a report...could be total BS or could just be a plant.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) has anyone seen any talk of what the holdup is? They were talking about having this done before the WS ended. International Draft vs. Draft Pick Compensation attached to qualifying FA's (Owners want international draft and will give players no more draft picks (at least directly). Players say that isn't enough and that giving owners the international draft would be a far bigger coup since it impacts a far greater percentage of players (major and minor leaguers) then those players with draft picks attached to them. Players are open to expanded drug Testing but want other concessions. Honestly, I don't see this getting done (without a lockout) if owners stick to their guns regarding an international draft.

Man that Shields trade just gets worse. That said, It isn't a bad thing, if you can reach your deal where everyone is happy and then go...one more thing...take James Shields. Still, that move was a really bad move and one where I really wonder how much film they had on him prior to acquiring him (from the current season). There was so much smoke around how peripheals, etc, that taking on that type of cash in that deal just wasn't smart (and yes, I said it at the time too). Never thought he would be this bad though and I figure at this point, you see if a healthy off-season gets him back to a decent start and you then trade him. I can't see his value getting any worse and we won't exactly be strapped for cash if we start trading off various players.

No one thought of Trump or Brexit. Until a deal is done, it isn't done and a lock out is looming. Come on owners and players...resolve this thing.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) Don't you think part of that is unreasonable expectations of the guy a week after the election? Everyone i've seen has said he's way ahead of both Bush and Obama on his transition team/appointments and he's been more open and public about it. Yeah, he's made questionable choices for sure, but the constant, hourly criticism is getting silly. And that leads to a problem someone pointed out the other day - if the media continues to focus on nonsense stories like the Hamilton response or the SNL response, they're creating a world in which Trump is criticized for literally everything and people will just tune out the legitimate criticisms like his actual, questionable appointments. Didn't we just learn that lesson through the campaign? Focus on every little thing he does and the big stuff gets lots in the haze. Fantastic post. Absolutely spot on.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 09:43 AM) I feel so bad for Cutler. Sure he had bad games, but fans NEVER gave him credit to what he actually brought to the field day in and day out. His toughness speaks volumes playing through injury and going through the BS he had too. Meatheads and the national media will never give this guy any credit. I for one thank you Jay Cutler for what you brought to the city of Chicago and the BS that you had to put up with. Completely agree with everything said.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 09:14 AM) Having flashbacks to when I dreamed of Marty Booker becoming our emergency QB. Barkley & David Fales has to get hurt first. I forgot about those days.

Is there any reason we can't cut him, even when injured?

Non throwing shoulder or throwing shoulder? Tough injury.

It finally hit me....the way Valentine plays the game, it reminds me of Deron Williams. Again, I'm not comparing him to Williams, just talking about how smooth he plays on the court, etc (although it would be fantastic if he could turn into a prime Deron Williams). Overall look / style...not necessarily saying Valentine has done anything to make me claim he will be as good as peak Deron.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 02:39 PM) Barkley is awful...I cannot imagine him coming in and doing anything other than making us look far worse...which is what usually occurs when someone other than Jay is quarterbacking. Oh I agree, I expect us to be absolutely awful.

Some reports that Kyle Fuller is expected to be activated from IR, which would mean White is done for the season. There had been at least some optimism that White would be back at some point this year.

I do hope Mike McCoy is our next OC.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) Well, fine. Sure. Would rather be 2-14 than 4-12. I say browns shock the world and we may fight it out. Look at that schedule...hard to imagine how they would get 2 wins. I can't find 1 win on that schedule. They play the Chargers, Bengals, Giants, Bills, and Steelers. I suppose with the Bengals hurt and the whole rivalry, maybe they could win that, but I wouldn't bet on it. I hope you are right. If Barkley is our QB, the Niners game is still a possibility. I can't see us winning any other game, although you never know I suppose.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Having Matt Barkley come in and turn this into a 5 or 6 win team would be the most Bears thing ever. I won't lie, if that happens, I'm okay, cause it means Barkley is good or our defense is just incredible. Feel bad for Jay though. What an awful year. Always wished he'd find a way to win with us cause I think the perception around his attitude is all wrong. That said, the perception around his performance is real. He is what he is. Someone will get him and he'll be okay with the right people and everything else, but his time is long gone in Chicago and we all know that. I just hope if we take a QB we take the right one and do it right to maximize the possibility that they excel.