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f***, I gotta switch feeds and see if the Jays HD feed is a little faster.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 17, 2009 -> 10:28 AM) Ozzie isn't there. Joey Cora is in charge. Joey is the biggest reason I don't want Ozzie to quit. He most definitely would be the replacement. Wheres Ozzie? Graduation? Well now its 2-1 on my feed. What the f***, why would directtv have such a late feed.

Is my feed on a major delay or something, its 2-0 with 2 outs?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 17, 2009 -> 10:25 AM) The other thing was when it was 3-2 on Thome, Konerko was in motion. If Thome k'd which happens fairly often, 2 White Sox outs would have been Dye and Konerko caught stealings. Ya, I was stunned Paulie was moving, at the same time, I'm not opposed to forcing the issue. I just didnt like running Dye with Thome on base, but I'm thinking that was on Dye not Ozzie. Dye I believe has a green light to go when he wants to and thought he got a good enough jump to steal 3rd. In fact he did cause he was safe, but ump made the call and it was a close play. I hope Ozzie didn't call for the steal. I still wish we had even more guys that could run on this team (not just only run, but run and hit for an average).

Go GO Gavin FLOYD!!!

Dye was safe, don't agree at all with sending him in that spot, but he was safe. Still, nice offensive inning. I liked how JD and Dye both went up the middle opposite field and Getz speed looked nice as it turned an ab where he was giving himself up to get Pods over into a basehit and Pods did a nice job turning and driving a pitch. I'll take it.

Gonnae be watching the game today with my best buddy thats a huge Wings fan.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 15, 2009 -> 06:16 PM) This guy just seems like another "safe" arm that we have been taking for the past several years. The strategy has done absolutely nothing for us, at least in terms of first round talent, with the exception being that Poreda might end up at least having a sustainable MLB career. I'd like to see us take a guy with a bit more risk/reward, such as a high school arm, or even better, just another position prospect. It's become obvious that this offense will continue to need to be overhauled, even with all the talent down in Birmingham, for the next several years. This couldn't possibly be considered a safe arm. A safe arm is Mike Leake, not Arnett. A safe arm is a guy with good control, a mixture of solid picthes, and a 87-90MPH fastball. Arnett is abig bodies, hard throwing kid thats raw. Nothing safe about this pick.

Most places have him going anywhere from round 2 to 5 (based on talent) and I must admit, its hard to knock the results. He had what, 3 consecutive no hitters (or was it 4?).

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:45 PM) You sure? He was all-world with regards to hype. He did make the Olympic team (not that I have to tell you). I wish I would have watched that game if it was on. He was thought of as a #1 pick but 50 million dollar demands weren't around at that time. He got even better in the last year.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:19 PM) They have Grant Green going 3rd overall... Oh okay, I knew something had to be off. I had seen him slated most places as still being a top 15 pick. Thanks for pointing that out. Been a long week, haha.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:29 PM) Nothing I've heard of, but I'll do some research. What day is the draft this year again? Remember, Strausburg wasn't even Strausburg at this time last year. First round pick, top 5 pick, yes, but this freaking good, no.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:27 PM) Is there a Strasbourg equivalent next year? He's the best to come along in 30 years of the draft so I'm going to say no. And with prep guys its just hard to say where they'll be cause they are just so damn young.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) I know I got ridiculed for my Floyd hate last year, but everything about his numbers showed he'd really struggle this year. He led the league in unearned runs, which can be a scary stat. Come on, he pitched a little lucky in the first half and a bit unlucky in the 2nd half and he definately passed the eye ball test (ie, he looked good). Even this year, he's looked good at times and awful at other times, but the biggest thing is just a better more agressive gameplan, imo, where he attacks the hitter more and obviously shows better command.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Well I don't mind Cabrera and Swisher are gone but the goofyness or feistiness they brought or at least we were told they brought to the table, wasn't replaced. The Sox are 2 games out. I just hope KW doesn't let this get away from him and tries to fix this asap. 83 or 84 wins and a hot October, KW can pat himself on the back again. Come on, Konerko, Thome and JD are the goofsters. Note, I love those guys to death but I think we all know they are quiet vets and AJ doesn't have anyone to goof around with. I figured the Sox had learned a thing or two about 2007 but apparently not.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:20 PM) When you have the same cast of characters for a few seasons, how is snapping going to get them going? They've seen it and heard it all from him. How come no one has mentioned that maybe our pitchers are just dead tired from last year, as they had to throw a ton of innings and made a few starts on short rest (well worth it at the time)? Oh, I figured we'd see regression from Danks and Floyd as they were both young and pitched a lot of innings. I expected to see less regression in Floyd cause he had a longer history of throwing innings, but I expected regression either way and I think the Sox had to have as well. Which is why I b****ed and moaned about what the Sox had in the back of the rotation to start the season and of course anyone with a brain b****ed and moaned about CF cause we all know that was a joke.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:20 PM) Didn't they make a big deal out of the attitude and general personality change when the got Swisher and Cabrera? They really were back to the quiet almost take your beating like a man mentality the disaster of 2007 was. Yep and I think thats a really bad thing. Than again, I was one of the only people that still liked Cabrera by seasons end.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) I shared this in chat, but Ozzie and KW disagree on going young right now. KW wants to see an infusion of young players on the roster, and Ozzie wants to ride it out with the veterans for a while longer. This was perfectly illustrated in his Beckham/Poreda comments. It just doesn't make sense to me though. At the same time, the Sox were going to have a problem when we were counting on Contreras and Colon without a true plan B in the back of the rotation. Still, this division is so bad that its winnable and I almost think thats why the Sox didn't go into a full rebuilding mode this year or at least a really ballsy retooling period (where we relied very heavily on young players). I wonder if Kenny sells quick. We know he loves buying before the deadline, but we haven't had to see him sell too often. I also get worried because he hasn't always been the greatest guy at getting value when he sells, that said, he has a knack for scouting and he has gotten some pretty good finds when he's sold (but he's also acquired a s***ton of garbage in deals where we are selling a player; see Swisher/Durham deals).

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) If you're referring to Ozzie, isn't he responsible for some of that? If he's supposed to be a great motivator, then how in the hell is this team so flat to start every game. FWIW, this has been Ozzie's best year at handling the pitchers. He's had a good sense of the games we're competitive in. I just wonder why Ozzie hasn't snapped. But I think it might be because he realizes how laughable his everyday lineup has been most of the year. Either way, something has to happen and fast, imo, to get this s*** back together.

QUOTE (JDsDirtySox @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:11 PM) my calculations are now telling me we will win 67 games this year. I should start scouting who the top pick in next years draft is going to be, haha.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) I was just screwing around. I do know the Greg Walker headhunters will probably be out tonight, but the pitching was terrible. Dick, I've defended Walk as much as anyone on here, but I also woudln't fault the franchise for firing him if they did in so decide to. A message needs to be sent and unfortunately you can't demote the whole lineup so its usually easier to go with a coach. I just don't think Walker is the reason they suck, although firing him could like a spark under some players asses. I also think Walker would find a job and they would more likely demote him down to the minors or something as opposed to purely fire him.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:08 PM) Just a hunch but I'm thinking this is where Ozzie threatens to quit. I want to know what the f*** is up with Guillen. Aside from getting tossed in the Tribe game for protecting the Indians players he hasn't done a f***ing thing. I wonder if he's quietly pissed about what he was handed this season? That or the Sox brass has another plan in mind and is truthfully planning on tearing things apart and going into a rebuilding mode for at least this season.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:05 PM) Carrasco's warming up. These 2nd year stars (Quentin, Alexei, Danks, and Floyd) are having just nightmare seasons. I woudln't exactly say that danks has had a nightmare season. One bad start and I do recall quite a few people expecting Quentin to have a bit of a rebound. Wrist injuries are tough to come back from, plus his swing doesn't look near as quick as it did last season. I expect Floyd to get his s*** together though, same with Alexei and Quentin.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) The approach does not change from one game to the next. From the get go this team looks overmatched on certain days and they do nothing to change the tempo of the pitcher. You know based on the first four innings and many other games this season that they may get a run or two later when the game is out of reach after Broadway gets his hands on the game. I will use the Minnesota game yesterday as the kind of game the White Sox are incapable of playing. They look like they just do not care. Broadway hasn't really pitched all that bad.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) If the Sox fall out of things in the next month and end up 10 games out of 1st, I just hope they give Fields the rest of the season to show what he can do at the plate. Benching him for a day or two is ok, but when your team is not going to compete for the AL Central, you have to get some young guys into the lineup to see if they can be counted on the following year. I still think the best strategy is turning Fields to a team in need of a 3rd baseman that has a nice looking pitching prospect that is still raw or has some question-marks but upside. Maybe even a failed first round selection or something along those lines.