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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 26, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) Its obviously working for him, therefore the pitcher has to do something to make it less successful. I don't think its bush league, dusting him is akin to a pitcher dusting a guy after he homers off him. That I agree with. But Hawk is making it sound as if it is some unwritten rule that you don't do what Scotty is doing and I don't see whats wrong with it.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:30 AM) Because it's Wednesday at 12:39, and i'm unemployed at the moment? The point was more that you'd have to put up a better package. Start with Poreda. A package of Poreda, Shelby, Omogrosso would be a nice starting point, imo. See where things go from there. Bottom line, your offer didn't even have one of our 5 best prospects invovled in the trade and that is in a deal to get us one of the premiere arms in baseball. I'd say the above offer I made probably gets laughed at, the only difference is in this economy the economic savings from getting rid of Oswalts deal would be worth a substantial value, imo. But Houston isn't in the same shape that San Diego was.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Hypothetically, if we could get Oswalt for Shelby, Cook, Retherford, and Omogrosso. Would you do it? Umm, why even discuss this. The only way that deal gets done is if the Astros need to get rid of Oswalts contract and if they really really love Omogrosso and Shelby. Omogrosso is the best piece in that deal and thats coming from a guy that really likes Shelby. I think once Shelby figures things out he'll hit for a very high average but he's more of a sleeper than a drop dead stud prospect. Omogrosso has a mid 90's fastball and now that he's healthy and past his blister problems he's been pretty dominating. I haven't seen enough of him as a starter (the few times I've seen him pitch have been in shorter, relief outings) to know whether he has enough secondary pitches to make it as a starter but again, if the Astros felt he did, than the value of the package increases. And either way, I'd make the deal in a heartbeat. I'd even be willing to give up a Carter, Hudson, etc. I doubt the Stros do though.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:16 AM) Frankly, it's a deal I don't make. I think we'd be overpaying as written, even if Poreda is just a Matt Thornton clone. If we were desperate for pitching, which we're not, and we had a glut of highly performing Middle Infielders, I could see us making that move based around Alexei, but not with the other 2 added in. Lower guys. One other thing to keep in mind when Considering Alexei...we have another Cuban whose decision to sign with us likely involved the presence of 2 other Cubans in our organization. I think the Sox are desperate for pitching, in the sense, that we have zero players in our system currently who project to be a #1 or #2 starter. So I'd say that could make it a serious need, especially given the fact that the team has quite a few offensive minded prospects, one of which (our #1 prospect) plays the same position as Ramirez.

QUOTE (qwerty @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:05 AM) Check out oswalts first half and second half numbers from last season. He looks to be far from done to me, and what i have been hearing. Oswalt has been overthrowing his fastball and especially his curveball the entire season and therefore missing his spots. The 11 homeruns oswalt has given up this season, in only 62.1 innings pitched, would be more discouraging if not for how oswalt performed in the second half last season. Last season oswalt threw 23 homeruns, 5 more than his previous career, out of those 23 only 5 came in the second half. He is hands down one of the very best pitchers in the game. And he's done it pitching at a launching pad. I was hesitant of Oswalt but I have taken a bit more of a look and he's not as bad of an option, assuming you can get him for a bit less than Peavy.

QUOTE (WCSox @ May 26, 2009 -> 08:27 PM) Since completing a deal for Peavy clearly means that the Sox are going for it NOW (rather than next year when Thome and Dye are gone, or the following year when Paulie is gone), methinks that Kenny would be perfectly fine with a lesser financial commitment to an older pitcher like Oswalt. Trust me, the Sox are looking at a 3-5 year window right now, so any pitcher they get has to fit into the plan that they'll be able to help the Sox compete for the next 3 to 5 years, well, as long as its a pitcher you have to give up substantial talent for. Roy Oswalt probably isn't near the top of there list. Unless the price isn't that substantial. For example, if you could get Oswalt without giving up Richard (so same package as Peavy hypothetically, less Richard, than I'd understand a bit more).

Cabrera's velocity in Washington has been way down and that was one of the big reasons he had such upside. Without that velocity and with his command, he's flat out atrocious. I was a big backer of trying to get Cabrera at the right price and seeing if a change of scenery would work, but I wouldn't bend over backwards to get him. That said, I wouldn't mind the signing as long as it was as a minor leaguer knowing he has a shot, but he'd have to pitch his way to the majors. I wouldn't want him signed to be on our 25 man roster currently.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:49 AM) Ramirez, Hudson, and Poreda Get it done, KW! /annoying trade maker-upper guy I think thats a deal the Giants consider, but only if Hudson and Poreda are going to another team for another bat. The Giants have two pitching prospects in the system at a much more elite level than Hudson/Poreda are and because of that they'll be looking primarily for offense. So if the Sox can get a 3rd team involved and use Hudson/Poreda to get one more good bat, well than you might have a deal. And its a deal I make.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:47 AM) Poreda would fall in to the "Might be nice" category for the Giants. He might be nice, but he doesn't fill their needs; all he does is give them an extra year or two before their pitcher becomes expensive/FA. They have pitching. They need a bat. Guys I wouldn't part with for Cain: Quentin Beckham Viciedo Ramirez D2: the Mighty Danks Flowers (he's the right value level...but that's where Posey plays and frankly we need a catcher at some point in the next year or two) Guys I might part with that they might actually be interested in: Allen Anderson/Fields (although we've pretty well managed to destroy their trade value haven't we) Getz Shelby Etc. I don't know if Allen would interest them, but he might well be the best fit as a deal centerpiece, unless we can sell them on Brian Anderson (frankly, I think they'd be smart to try to get him, but considering how determined we are to put him on the bench I doubt they'd figure that out) A deal won't get done with what you are dangling. The Giants best offensive prospects are a young internationally signed first baseman and Buster Posey © so they have no interest in Allen. Andesron and Fields have no trade value, Getz is a nice piece to the Sox but on the open market he's a throw in type of guy, Shelby again, solid value as a 3rd or 4th piece, probably worth more to the Sox. So given who you'd actually part with, there is a negative % chance that a deal gets done. I personally would consider doing Quentin for Cain. Call me crazy, but with all of our bats in the system, I'd potentially be willing to take a chance, especially given Quentin's checkered past (in regards to injuries). That said, it would be a real real tough decision and I think there might be better guys out there where we don't have to dangle CQ or other ways to get deals done without doing Quentin. Oh and one note, I'll take Cain over Oswalt every day of the week on this club. We don't need a pitcher whose at or near the end of his prime, I want one entering his prime.

QUOTE (everafan @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:42 AM) If there was a GM that would do it, it would be Sabean. Is Sabean that bad of a GM? San Fran was a very competitive team for a long time and while they are in a rebuilding mode right now, they already have two front of the rotation young guns (Linnecum and Cain) but they have a couple stud guys down in AA (the two youngest AA pitchers). Those young guys allow them to move Cain but I wont' lie, it doesn't make sense for San Fran unless they get a franchise type of bat.

QUOTE (Special K @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:03 AM) I heard on the Score 670 yesterday during Mike Murphy's show when he had a beat reporter for the Sun Times on air, that the KW is pursuing Matt Cain pretty hard. Im not trying to start any rumors or anything, I just wanted to know if anyone has heard any truth to this and possibly get a little feedback. Cain is a name I threw out when the Peavy stuff started dying down and this is a name that I love. He's having the best season of his career, is still very young, and at least has the stuff to really excel in the AL. The big questions are the price it would take to get him (the Giants are looking for bats that they can put in there lineup today and I don't know if the Sox have those guys so I'd assume a 3rd team, looking to sell a big name bat, would be involved). I just know that I am a big Cain fan and think he'd be an excellent addition to go along side Buehrle/Danks/Floyd/Richard.

I still don't really get why it is considered bush league. It isn't like your looking back and stealing a pitch location or something. Or even messing with the pitchers rhthym. How is it any different than someone having a unique way to open there swing, ie, Sheffield with his bat wag, etc.

QUOTE (danman31 @ May 26, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) The Big 12 has been getting some extra love lately. Baylor matches the profile of Oklahoma last year who got in. That pick didn't surprise me. It was a damn good, really deep year for the Big 12. I just don't like Oklahoma State getting in. Baylor did lose like 14 of there last 16 though. A month ago I'd have told you Baylor was a lock but they really sucked ass and I just don't think they were better than some other bubble teams. I do agree that the Big 12 was very very good this year though.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 23, 2009 -> 11:32 PM) Even though Dayan has done nothing for the 2009 White Sox? Can't one also say the money that wasn't used to re-sign Joe Crede went to Dayan? How about freeing up Javy's salary? We bought way high and sold low and invested in something else that hasn't return anything to us yet. As much as you play around with stocks I'm shocked you would declare that a "win" so soon. For all intents and purposes you could be right, but bottom line, not resigning Crede, trading Swisher, and moving Javier all had an impact in the Sox getting Dayan. Since I feel we got excellent value for Javier (he's pitching great in Atlanta, but the Sox got very talented prospects in return, how they produce at the ML level, jury is out there, but three guys with major league talent) and were never going to resign Crede it's pretty easy to put Viciedo in as part of the Swisher deal and right now, Viciedo would have a higher trade value than Swisher. So ya, I'm ok with the deal. Would have liked the Sox to have gotten one solid piece out of the trade but I'm glad they freed up the payroll.

I'm assuming he won't be promoted so I'm hoping the Tigers pick him up and somehow move him to closer, haha.

Look, I don't give a f*** what his OPS is. He's getting on at an acceptable rate and hitting for a nice average RIGHT NOW. Given the other turds we've had at the top of the order I'll f***ing take it. OPS+ is a terrible f***ing stat to look at when it comes to leadoff hitters. Oh and Pods has made a bit of an adjustment and was just stroking singles yesterday with that swing of his. Will it hold up, I don't know, but as of now, he's the leadoff hitter.

Wow, that was one early game.

Definately not Dana Jacobsen.

I can't get past Baylor and Oklahoma State, plus UCI had to get the biggest screw job ever. Same with Virginia. I hope UCI finds a way though. I just don't get how my Titans get such a better seed than UCI, who beat us in head to head and won the conference by a wide margin. And thats not me knocking the Titans, who I clearly feel are a top 5 national team and who consistently play a premiere non-conference schedule.

QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ May 26, 2009 -> 09:22 AM) Tim Weiser, associate commissioner of the Big 12, was the chair of the selection committee this year. UVA did get screwed, but that's why I said that regional is awesome. There is so much talent, it should be fun to watch. However, like you said, if I was a fan of Irvine or UVA, I'd be pissed. I'm in the same boat as zen about UF. A lot of their games were on TV so I was able to watch them and wasn't that impressed. Then again, FSU looked like s*** most of this season too. How in the heck was UCI one of the last national seeds. That alone is a joke, imo. I was pleasantly surprised with Fullerton being the #2 national seed. I like the regional but they pretty much have zero history or experience against any of the schools and anything can happen. Hopefully my Titans can take care of business. Friday I'll be at the UCI regional, assuming I'm able to pick up individual tickets when they go on sale tomorrow.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 24, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) Terminator Salvation Review, by an actual fan of the franchise. Hi, my name is Steve. I grew up with the Terminator... Terminator 2: Judgement Day was one of the films that defined my youth. It was excellent. From this, I went back and watched the original Terminator, and enjoyed it. However, Judgement Day was numero uno. Then came Terminator 3. It was just a movie... a disappointment, but it was Arnold, and it had some nice moments of cinematography. Enter: Terminator Salvation Having heard the negative reviews and going in with expectations moderately tempered, I sat in awe as the opening sequence blew me away. However, I expected this, having heard that this is the best moment of the film. Quick aside... Christian Bale used his Batman voice in this movie. Anyway, some of the holes that folks have pointed to, such as were unfounded as the plotline delivered perfect explanations. Beyond that, they wonderfully paid homage to the past films ( ) Anyone who is a fan of the franchise is going to come away quite happy with this movie. I thought it was downright awesome, and when it comes to films, I can be pretty picky. I kept waiting for this movie to start being less awesome, and it didn't. Sam Worthington definitely showed up Bale in this film... his role was awesome. However, Bale fit the role perfectly. **** out of ***** Yeah, seriously, it was that good. Don't listen to some critics who don't know a damn thing about the franchise. Listen to me. I ended up seeing it this weekend with some seriously tempered expectations because of Soxtalk and left the theatre with a smile on the face. The movie was flat out enjoyable. What I expected, decent story, cool action.

Will do.

I'd have to say the Cubs.

The Sox won't be in the Bedard sweepstakes. He just doesn't fit what they preach.

Friday at 4...I'm talking to the boss tomorrow.