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For those suggesting Oswalt, I read this on benmaller:

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 01:30 PM) I'd be surprised if you could get Haren by parting with Beckham. Talk about wanting to destroy a fan base. Trade a guy signed reasonably and long term who is an ace for a bunch of prospects. Beckham isn't a fit in Arizona. And the sox have the prospects to do the deal, the question is whether Arizona is ready to. They've been a bit better as of late and unless they are giving up and have other plans in mind, they are still a team that isn't far from contending, imo (ie, they have talent), so they aren't just moving Haren to being there rebuilding process. For example, Houston might move Oswalt because they are that far off from competing.

To me the thing that makes the Dbacks harder to deal with is the fact that they do have a lot of talent on that club so you could make a case that with just a few minor moves or just them waking up, they could immediately emerge as a world series contender. They have that much talent, its just a matter of them playing up to there ability (of course thats been the case for a couple seasons). They tend to remind me a bit of the early 2000 White Sox in that sense. Different teams, but young players with talent who just never were able to put it all together. Oh and they won't give Haren away, he's very valuabel to them so unless there is a mandate to cut salary I don't know if they trade him unless they are blown away. Now if Webb is in a different spot, I could maybe understand they move him if they don't plan on offering him a bit long-term deal. All of these deals will come down to the economics because teams won't just willingly give up on mid 20's front of the rotation pitchers at or near there prime years.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 27, 2009 -> 01:21 PM) I'm wondering if we'll see Dex join his friend in W-S after the draft. I'm predicting us to be drafting a lot of college talent this year, so Kanny could be bringing in some really good players in July. I'm really interested to see if the Sox put up two straight quality drafts. They just don't have the tendency to do what they did in the last draft and while I've always been a big fan of Lauman he has had a history of making some questionable picks (ie, serious overdrafts) and in general the Sox have always been cheap in the draft. You can point to the team not having top 10 picks, but when you look at the last 5-6 years, the Sox have historically been one of the lowest spenders throughout the draft (not just 1st round). Last year they spent more, but Beckham and Danks were a big part of that adn to be honest they had a lot of early round selections that were very cheap/over drafts and that was flat out stupid. They hit on Hudson/Carter or at least looks that way, but the selections of O'Neil/Morel/KWJr were just atrocious for where the Sox took them. So I hope the Sox realize they need to invest a bit more heavy, especially now that they saw what having a good system can do for them (ie, havin the ability to pull off major trades) and spend a little more than they did last year (they'll need to too, since they have a few more picks in the early rounds). I'm just afraid we'll see the Sox go with there tendencies of taking at least a few guys in the early rounds that have no business going there. That said, the thing I love about Laumann is that he is a big tools guy.

If we take a pitcher, I think Arnett is my guy (unless someone else drops). I also like Bashmore a lot. He's a nice looking lefty and probably a safe selection if he is there in the 3rd to 5th round (might be gone though).

I like him. He's got a good build, solid stuff with some upside, and should at least turn into a good relief prospect with a shot at being a good starting prospect. Depending on whats out there, I consider him from the supplemental slot on.

Not a fan, not a fan. I'm a tools guy and this guy just doesn't have what it takes. If you project him as a 2nd baseman, he might turn into a solid get, but if he's playing in a cornfer outfield spot I don't think he makes it as a starter and I don't take a guy in the first 4 rounds who doesn't at least have the upside to be a starter (doesn't mean he will be, but just that he has the upside to be).

Great outing for Dex. The guy is long, lanky, and a good prospect with a shot of being a great prospect. I would be shocked if he ever made the elite prospect range, but still, awesome to see.

Come on Barons.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 27, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) Oswalt is not a #1 or #2 starter right now. A year from now he might not even be a #3 starter. Oswalt is struggling a bit this year but the stuff is still there and he was dominant the 2nd half of last year.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 27, 2009 -> 12:52 PM) Ummm...why? Is it because the Padres are in a deeper financial hole and would take less? Please explain why when you post stuff like this...cuts down on post count. He's put up great numbers in both the AL and NL and while in the NL he's been in at least a relatively offensive park. He's young and has a bit cheaper contract and the Dbacks dont' have to trade him. If they do, I'd be all over it though and would probably even be willing to part with Beckham to get him. But if you give up Beckham you have to reduce the price elsewhere. Still, the Dbacks probably have little interest in Gbeck, but I could see some sort of deal worked out, if the Dbacks do in fact want to move him. I'd f***ing love Haren or Webb.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 27, 2009 -> 12:50 PM) Look at the signs: Dbacks are Wayyyy out of it Sox deal with AZ consistently dbacks could use some young pitching for their already talented rotation He's already the 3rd highest paid player and starting next year willl be the 2nd highest paid then will be the highest paid. Garland is gone after this season. Webb only has ONE more year under contract then will need to be resigned or replaced. Sox have 2 starters to offer for now and at least 1 to contribute in a few seasons. If the Sox wanted to, they could probably get one of the Dbacks higher paid players off there hands as well. Say they wanted a Jon Garland as well, they Sox would probably actually be able to get him and actually be able to give up less for Haren (although not much less). I personally would make a deal for Haren involving any three of our pitching prospects. I don't think thats enough though.

Haren's a f***ing stud. I'd be all over him or Webb if they were available.

Badass, just picked up my tickets to see Strausburg in action on Friday against Virginia. Will be hitting up the Fullerton regional later on in the weekend.

Wow, I'm excited at the thought. Plus Shaq is like one of my all time favorite players.

I saw Maxwell pitch down in Arizona this year and I was thoroughly unimpressed.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 27, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) I would love that. Reason being... its brilliant. he's not very good now, we all know that... but luol deng's contract is horrible and he's signed for like 4 years after this. So we'd lose that contract and get to enjoy funny Shaq quotes for a year. Plus Shaq can still score and is a big body in the middle.

That would be a fantastic trade for the Bulls. They'd be ridding themselves of Deng's contract and getting a nice big man presence who could also be a great lobbyist for you in the summer of 2010. Heck, maybe Shaq even likes it in Chicago that he takes a discount to play a 20mpg role for another year or two on a potential championship contender. I f***ing love it, love it.

I'm a f***ing idiot. I said all season that Cleveland had Lebron and nothing and than somehow decided that they'd destroy the Magic. Boy was I wrong.

QUOTE (beautox @ May 26, 2009 -> 07:27 PM) danks goes deep!!! what is everyone's opinion on his floor, median and ceiling? Danks floor is a good defensive outfielder. Not quite a BA, but a guy that has a bench spot. His median is a Mark Kotsay type of player and his ceiling is a Sizemore or Granderson. Yes, he's that f***ing good of an athlete. This is coming from someone whose raved about him long before he was in the Sox system.

QUOTE (Molto @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) I agree, although I also agree that if he keeps having success, pitchers will throw inside on him. Not as retaliation, but just to make him think twice. If this is going to make him successful, it's in the pitchers best interest to stop him from doing it. Throwing inside may do that. Yep and thats baseball. You always try to do what you can to stop someone from being sucessful and I'm sure the pitchers will start to bust Pods in and even hit him to see if it can work to get him out of his rhythm.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 27, 2009 -> 06:46 AM) I'm not going to say I would've predicted it, but the Sox tend to play well in Anaheim. Recently yes, historically, no. I've seen a ton of beat downs of my Sox in Anaheim.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 26, 2009 -> 10:38 PM) I caught the last two outs. Hawk and Stoney were raving about the defense. Was it that good? Damn shame that with the game being on WCIU that there won't be a replay. Ya, the defense was awesome. Nix and Ramirez both had two plays that were amazing. Pods had a nice DP.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 27, 2009 -> 09:34 AM) The economy is the X-Factor here, but the Astros have shown no signs that it's a huge concern for them. I'd agree that Poreda should be the prize of this deal in a realistic world. Oh and than the next question is what do the Astros want the most, Pitching/Hitting, etc. Are they looking for a quick fix, etc. I just don't know with there situation but I do know they have very little quality talent in there system so they'd probably be going best players and if I were them I'd start by asking for Poreda, Beckham, and Danks.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 26, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) Its obviously working for him, therefore the pitcher has to do something to make it less successful. I don't think its bush league, dusting him is akin to a pitcher dusting a guy after he homers off him. That I agree with. But Hawk is making it sound as if it is some unwritten rule that you don't do what Scotty is doing and I don't see whats wrong with it.