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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) The Palin pick seems to be a pretty good one. It helps with some of the GOP base, puts a woman on the ticket, adds someone with at least some executive experience, and she has very high approval ratings. Of course, McCain isn't going to pick someone Obama voters will approve of, as nothing besides McCain dropping out of the race could appease them. I think the 'state trooper scandal' will be a big deal to the DailyKos and such, but not the average voter. Speaking of which, it seems the Dems are already launching attacks on the Palin family, really no surprise here. http://townhall.com/blog/g/9b3375c7-6a27-4...04-b267282a1ce1 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/12.../137/486/580223 Haven't watched them, but BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL and scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal That's all you are going to hear about her from the Dems. What a f***ing waste of time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 07:23 PM) I think Biden is a lot like what McCain is. Then what does McCain have then? QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) w The thing that really pissed me off on him was the RAVE act, and the shenanigoats surrounding how Biden rammed it through the Senate. It had the brilliant idea of saying that the oner of a property and anyone working on a property could be held accountable if anyone did an illegal drug on the property. The beauty of this was that you didn't have to have a clue it was going on, so if say, you were promoting a series of concerts (Which I happened to be doing at the time he passed the thing) you could be held liable and jailed for 10 years if someone snuck a joint in to your concert through the pat-down. The best idea anyone ever came up with for how to respond to that idiotic piece of legislation was this one. QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 07:38 PM) yeah that's pretty stupid. I'm going to do drugs in my roommates room now. I guess I just like him for his "noun, verb and 9/11" quip QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 08:14 PM) He also was wrong on the biggest vote of the last 10+ years. QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 08:29 PM) I'd have to go find it but I predicted Biden about two months ago somewhere around here... QUOTE (Chet Lemon @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) Biden is the fashionable pick for the week as Bayh was two weeks ago, and Kaine was the week before that. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2008 -> 09:32 PM) But...this is the right week to be the fashionable pick. Um hmmm... you all love Biden.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 27, 2008 -> 04:06 PM) McCain should take Palin from Alaska. She has a conservative record that would appeal to the base, is a woman to help balance the ticket, and has even bucked her own party in the past over corruption issues, which should appeal to the 'maverick's maverickness. Pawlenty wouldn't be bad, but none of the others are going to help. Huckabee is a loon, if Romney was good enough, he wouldn't have dropped out so early, Jindal is NOT ready for a national stage, and the rest just do nothing for me. Holy s***, Alpha. June 27th. f***ing good call.

There's like 50,000 people supposed to come to Dallas/Fort Worth - just like last time, we get 25% of the population coming here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 08:39 AM) My take? Obama sold out and picked McCain as his running mate, so McCain sold out and picked Obama as his running mate. Pretty much.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) John Kerry on Stephanoplous: Whatever. He's the biggest political f***tard that ever lived. When you can't beat a president who basically has sucked, you have no room for an opinion. Go home, and STFU, John Kerry.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 10:33 PM) I do think that's the difference in Ohio. And therefore the difference in Ohio. Oh that's right, they had it on the ballot, right? Is that what you mean?

A guy I work with was supposed to go to NO this weekend - his family still lives there (outskirts). He decided to not go, I think it was a good move.

I think that McCain picked her because he got EXACTLY the reaction he thought he would get... Press on Friday: McCain picks Palin... Holy crap, she has NO experience (on and on and on and on)... oh wait a minute, we shouldn't be saying THAT! It's actually a VERY smart play, if you think about it. Anyway, more later. I need to get some sleep... took a pain pill 'cause I had a migraine, and now I think I can actually sleep tonight now. I still owe Rex, etc. a looksie at the RSO speech. I said I'd watch it, so I will...

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 08:06 PM) Some other time, I've been drinking and am about to leave. Believe me, I would love to spend some time trashing Capitalism! You're crazy. I just sent you a PM. We'll talk later.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 08:02 PM) Were just putting it off because there's bound to be a clash between a Libertarian (or at least thats what I think DrunkBomber is) and a Socialist if they're within such close proximity. But please, in the future dont bring communism into the discussion at all. You wouldn't call Norway or Sweden communist countries would you? What did I say? Read it. I said "take it away", didn't I? You can't use those countries as a good discussion point because of their population - also they have a different structure then you think they do... We can talk offline, or start another thread, and I won't be a jerk - just try to 'splain.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) 19 years old. But there's a real reason I am a Socialist: By taxing the rich more and providing the middle and lower class with necessities like the aforementioned food, water and shelter you broaden the middle class significantly. A larger middle class creates a much stronger consumer base which as anybody with common sense knows is good for an economy. All Capitalism does is polarize rich and poor until the gap becomes unsustainable. The last time this happened was the late 20's, and this country went through a massive liberal revolution to get ourselves out of that mess. I don't think you know history quite as much as you think you do - because that's not what happened. And furthermore, take away the "communism" away from China, and I hope you like how they treat their "middle class"... think about that a bit. I didn't mean to threadjack you. I just think you have a lot to learn, and that's my opinion of your take. I'll stop because it's taking away where you wanted this thread to go, and I'm honestly not trying to start something - I'm just discussing your point.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) I just dont see Palin being the wedge-issue or turnout machine that gay marriage was. Especially against a competent opponent like Obama as opposed to a dud like Kerry. You honestly think "gay marriage" as an issue turned out enough voters for GWB to win?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 07:49 PM) As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have the government take care of my needs than somebody looking to brand and package something as intrinsically necessary as water for a profit. Sometimes I wonder what Capitalism has done to us as a people, have we become so comfortable with a profit driven society that we just accept it that people are deprived of things like food and shelter because some multi-billionaire needs his pockets lined? I'm not trying to be an ass, but how old are you? PM me and I'll explain why I asked that, if you feel uncomfortable or if you think I'm "picking" on you. I just want to frame my answer based on that, because depending on where you are in life, changes how I would answer it, and I mean that with respect.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 05:08 PM) So a question for the R voter people. ATH, no answers from you, I want to hear from the already decided McCain voters. You've now had 24 hours to chew on Sarah Palin as a VP pick. Taking all the good and the bad together, how do you feel about your ticket right now? I get the feeling that if I were a Republican I'd be really nervous about that ticket, but I'm really not qualified to give an opinion from the side of someone who thinks McCain's a good candidate. You probably won't get a good answer from anyone here because no one likes McCain. I haven't had time to read ANYTHING, but I'll give it a shot when I'm more "informed"...

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 30, 2008 -> 05:56 PM) I'm a far left Socialist, but not a Communist. A lot of people don't know the difference between those two and it makes arguments very difficult. Why am I a Socialist? Well uhh... because it works? For real, I'd be glad to explain it if anybody cares. Cool, so you want the government to take care of your every need? How awesome.

I was kinda thinkin the same thing... WTF happened?

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 10:42 PM) Well then I really hope he met her more than once before this occasion. What do you know that the rest of us don't?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 09:02 PM) Quite simply, politically, I am who I am because of George W. Bush. I really wasn't a fan of the Clinton years during them. I grew up during those years, started college fall of 99. So I grew up watching how the Clintons governed, how their administration was hamstrung for so many years because of scandal, and the whole Clenis thing was just the topper. Hated how the government was running at that point. Just to prove my point, and I'm neither kidding nor trying to brag, but in 1999 I gave the valedictorian speech at my high school and actually included a series of lines bashing Clinton and threw in a statement about how hopefully he'd taught us to vote Republican. If Indiana had been this swingy in 00, man would I regret that line. Anyway, then I watched the rise up of this absolute monster from Texas. A guy I simply couldn't stand from the moment I first saw him. I found him insulting to everything that this country stood for. He was an embarrassment. Every time he advocated a policy I found it to be a horrible idea. All his proposals for drilling, that's just silly. A tax cut? When we have a $5 trillion debt already built up and the Social Security generation about to retire? That's a terrible idea. And on and on. Just watching how he raked in the money from so many really wealthy donors, all of whom would benefit from his plans while I'd be exactly the kind of person who would suffer, that was awful. I had some hope for McCain. I actually liked the 2000 version of McCain. He seemed to at least have his head on straight. Perhaps most importantly, the people dumping money in to Bush's campaign, the people I felt were just trying to buy the whole thing to make themselves rich, hated him. Hated him with a passion that only his illegitimate African American daughter could understand. I would have voted for him in the primary if the race had made it that far. Might well have voted for him in the General, I'd have at least been a swing voter, because I didn't really trust Vice President Gore after all his fundraising shenanigoats. But Bush knocked out McCain early, and that was that. I watched Bush humiliate himself in one campaign event after another. One that really bothered me was that he made an issue of the 2000 census, the data which is really important for the country to get, and he told people not to fill it out. That was just idiotic. One flub after another. The guy didn't know anything about the world. He wanted to dump a bunch of money in to activating a missile defense shield that was a decade or more away. You name it, I couldn't stand the guy. In January, 2001, I was at the University of Illinois for a Quiz Bowl event, saw a hard print copy of the issue of the Onion with the headline "Bush promises 'our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over'". I still have that paper, since I just had to pick one up. It just seemed like it was going to be 100% right based on my evaluation of the man. I am a George W. Bush Democrat. You know, I have often thought about what it would be like if McCain got in 8 years ago. I would have to think it would be somewhat different. George W Bush has IMO gotten a worse rap then he should; but then again, he's been a (second time I've used this tonight) colossal failure on two things I thought he wouldn't be, and that is, the "war on terror" and spending. The last one has been horrific and makes me sick. I know you and I totally disagree on Iraq, I still think we needed to do that, but not in the way those idiots did it.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Libertarian? Probably, but not bats*** crazy libertarian like Ron Paul. I understand the need for some government programs - but I think it should be more structured to the state and local jurisdictions.

I think universal health care is a colossal mistake, I think the war in Iraq was justified but absolutely managed as poorly as one could possibly manage it, I think that the government needs to stay out of my (your) wallet and my (your) bedroom, and I think states' rights should reign supreme. Where does that leave me? No-where.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 05:45 PM) I believe she raised corporate taxes actually. Yea, I just haven't had time to read ANYTHING about her other then what's been posted here, and frankly a lot of it is Democrat attack points from AHB.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) I'm just annoyed that PBS is not in HD for me. ^^^ Best Sig ever. You know what's funniest about that, the Coach store they're "driving by".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) Oh...Joy.... Well, if she's really into "fighting corruption" and "small government", I'd say she's a good choice. I still don't know enough about her to make a good comment yet.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:20 PM) There might be something that this pick lacks, and does so in a way that might actually affect something. Latinos are a key swing constituency in this election. Bush picked up over 40% of that vote, and McCain really needs to hold on to that. Unfortunately, his party's actions since 2004 have done a great job of moving the Latino vote more solidly into the Democratic column. McCain might have benefitted most from a pick that could be seen as both friendly to hispanics and the conservative base. That might be a tall order, but I think its really the only way that either VP candidate could really have a lasting effect on the race. You're right about that. Myself, I'm reserving judgement - I just don't know about this one.