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Bravo on the last point.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) Yes, someone posted it here. It wasn't exactly oil, it was actually more like partially refined oil and close to gasoline, as I recall. Very cool. Maybe it is where I saw it was here. ... ... ... so the conclusion is, because bugs crap oil, it's a renewable resource. Didn't we all learn something today, boys and girls?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) This is stunning. Do you know how oil is "made"? Do you know how much biomass it takes, and how long it takes for it to become oil? And do you actually, honestly think that amount even remotely rivals the billions of barrels of oil we use every day? No wonder you want to drill. You are the only person I have ever heard who actually thinks that oil is a renewable resource. And WTF is with this 100 years stuff? We have all sorts of alternatives, RIGHT NOW! Just like you can drill right now, you can also do wind, solar, geo, hyrdo and other stuff right now. 100 years? Where are you getting this stuff? Did you see the bug that s***s oil? It's pretty cool. So maybe it is a renewable resource. I'll have to dig up that article sometime, it was pretty funny, and true!

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 09:18 AM) certainly doesn't look favorable when you reverse your position on off-shore drilling a few days after over $100,000 gets donated to your campaign by the Hess family. Right, because Obama doesn't have ANY oil lobby money ANYWHERE tied in to his campaign. (and it's not something any of us could figure out really easily, but I'm sure it's there somewhere).

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 08:33 AM) Me. His post contained exactly what I would have wanted to read... reaction. Again Obama's camp takes the high road. The high road? They are the ones benefitting, so of course they won't say anything.

I will say this much, whoever her agency is, they are genius. This brings Paris back into the (positive) spotlight.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 08:32 PM) Mr. Pot, is that you? Why yes, Mr. Kettle. Pleased to meet you. Generally, at least I have attacks for both sides, not just one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 08:12 PM) No idea where to put this, but it has to go somewhere. Paris Hilton responds to John McCain. See more Paris Hilton videos at Funny or Die The frightening thing is...she has a better energy policy than McCain or Bush. OK sarcasm aside, that is what the Republicans want to do... but whatever, it sounds better to just attack everything.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 08:05 PM) So um, did Josh Fields have sex with Ozzie's wife or something? QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 08:06 PM) He and BA must have gangbanged her..... That's quality ™ right there.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 08:35 PM) Wow. A bunch of conspiracy theorists who believe bi-partisan congressional reports about the lead-up to this war. There's no saving the failure of an administration this was, no matter how many names you call the other side. So funny your diagnosis of others. I'm not calling the "other side" anything, I'm calling both sides the same damn thing. There's very few people who want to think independently anymore.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 07:34 PM) That doesn't work. He tried not fighting back vs. Hillary and eventually he had to throw his hat into the ring. BUT BUT BUT HE's GOING NEGATIVE!!!! Uh huh.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 05:12 PM) It's a response trying to deflect a direct jab from his opponent. Really, what else do you want him to say/do? He wants to win the election. Ignore the GOP stupidity and just keep going on.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) Did you watch the video or did you just read the tag line at the top? The tag line on top, becuase I was getting ready to leave work, so I'll go watch it now. Edit: I stand by my statement.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 04:39 PM) I hate how polls are covered in the newspaper like this is a football game. GO DEEP!

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 04:38 PM) Kap, here's the thing. I compared them to nobody. I didn't bring back say anything that you said. I said that these were three very large examples the large TV media outlets have given no coverage of. So why is that the response? Because the standard canned answer, much like the beginning of this thread, and the discourse it's taken, is total cynicism when it comes to what the Bush administration did or did not do. It's posted here all the time and it gets just plain old. Alpha is making my point much better then I did. All we see from most liberal folks is that Bush did everything he could to lie, manufacture, kill, torture, maim, rape, and totally screw over everyone and everything related to the Iraq war and the presentation of it to the American people. Hence, it's all a "CONSPIRACY" comment I made earlier, and the digging of rubbish to pile on top of GWB. (That's a conspiracy too, evidently). Journalists are a lazy bunch (in general - sometimes you have exceptions). They want to hit the limelight on very little corroborating evidence. But in the end, people believe what they WANT to believe anyway... and with the political drones we seem to have in this country now, it's sad.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 02:20 PM) Obama: GOP Takes Pride in Being Ignorant Yep, he's reaching out to all Americans.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 03:31 PM) people have been digging and critical of BushCo? Could've fooled me, two gigantic reports saying they politicized the DoJ illegally and that we were lied into the war AND used a legal opinion by a college professor to use torture from the highest ranks (not a few bad apples as was reported), and yet, NONE of those was covered for very long at all. The DoJ scandal has had next to traction, the definitive report on the moments preceding the Iraq war wasn't even in the nightly news, and the torture part of this has been left to blogs and Vanity Fair. So no, I'm not surprised by this. BushCo has gotten out of everything with claiming exec. privilege, deny deny deny and I don't recall!?!? I know, I know, they are the most evil f***ers to be in the White House, ever. They're the f***ing devils, those bastards! *YAWN* Now, to be fair, I think they're all corrupt assholes. It just depends on your slant whether one is worse then the other.

LMAO you people fiding maps of "pop" vs. "soda".

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 02:15 PM) Ugh. First, the sirens went off in '59, but not '83, because it caused a panic in '59. Second, the buildings do NOT stop tornadoes, as was pointed out earlier. The reason tornadoes are less frequent in the city is the same reason they are less frequent in the suburbs along the north shore - the lake. For example, a few years ago a big tornado ripped through downtown Dallas (or was it Fort Worth), and tore up a lot of those big buildings. Third, they go off whenever their is a tornado warning. That's rare, but not "a few times in their existence". It was Fort Worth in 2000. They just opened the tallest skyscraper that the tornado hit back up last year after 7 years. They worked on that thing forever.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At Media Availability, St. Louis, MO, 7/7/08 http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/pos...GM4NjQ0Y2RkMzg= The irony is that on July 7th, the price of crude closed at $141.64, it closed August 4th at 121.61. Crude is DOWN $20 a barrel since he made his statements about NOT opening up the reserves, and now its an emergency? Sounds to me like the energy attacks are starting to worry the Dems. That's part of it. I've long told you my opinion as to why NOW energy is going down... and I don't think it's a coincidence, either.

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) I don't think this is a modern frenzy at all. I don't think this article, playing second-fiddle to the "hot bod mom with the missing tot" counts as a frenzy, and I think back to the days of yellow journalism, the muckrakers, etc. etc. and don't see anything at all "modern" about this. It's nothing new. Reporters report and investigate. That's their job. Always has been, always will be, and is now. You're missing my point.

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) It often takes a full generation for secrets to come out, and so this period of time isn't such a stretch. Everyone in Washington has a vested interest in keeping their dirty laundry out of the public's eye. This is true in dealing with biographies of famous people, and even in our daily lives. It is especially true in government. It is, but it's also the modern media frenzy, who are looking for anything, everything, to hang on GWB (or to manufacture news, whatever way you want to say it).

Ahh yes, everything's a conspiracy. My take is why does it take 5+ years for crap like this to come out? If it happened, it would have been out well before now.

I just read it because I saw the headline of the article. I often times find his logic is a little suspect on financial things.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 09:38 AM) Good point. Both sides seize on statements like this but it seems like in recent years the GOP take it to an extreme, at least from my point of view. In this case it's everyone holding up tire gauges and it was everyone at the '04 convention holding up actual flip flops. Way over the top especially since the Dem convention back then was so much more positive in its message. I envision a similar direction this year with a negative/attack type GOP convention based on fears and bashing the opponent while the Dem convention will be more focused on positive things like hope and dare I say it, change. BS, I know that your support is genuine, and you're an issues guy. I wholeheartedly agree with you on the "flip-flops" and "tire gauges" thing, it's petty, shallow, and stupid, but the GOP will do it anyway. However, my biggest issue with the Democrat Party is the way they make people think that they need their government, it's much more psychological warefare on their front. They want to make decisions for people (we'll decide energy policy, we'll decide what's safe to eat, we'll decide what people should make and how much money to take, we'll decide what's best for your health care, etc.) - that's the fundamental difference I have with the Democrat party. Unfortunately, the GOP is not a hell of a lot better anymore, they've totally abandoned small government, and for that I cannot look the other way. "CHANGE", on that level, isn't change, and that's why I think I have such a hard time with Barack Obama. He's not wanting change, he's wanting control.