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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 03:48 PM) I understand the frustration with politics as they are right now, and with each of these candidates. But I don't get how this election is so hard for you. To me, and most people I've spoken with about it, this choice is a lot better than the ones we got the last few elections. I guess time will tell. It will be interesting to see the real contrasts begin to come out.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 04:14 PM) So I take it you will never vote again since all politicians are the same and power hungry? This election is particularly difficult for me. McCain is an assmunch and Obama is 100% not what he shows himself to be.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 03:42 PM) So your argument is that because other people will make Barack Obama a polarizing figure that he isn't worthy of your support, despite the fact that it is, by your own admission, not his intent to be polarizing or divisive? Obama does represent some form of real change, but wholesale change doesn't happen overnight. So in a year or two, the Obamatons that feel that Barack can do no wrong will feel wholesale disappointment. But the truth is, in my opinion, Obama will bring some sort of change to Washington - not as far or as fast as many people would like to see, but there will be some real change in the way Washington runs with Obama in the oval office. Not because he is anything special, but because he represents people who want some form of change. I'm sorry Kap, that you can't see that. I'm jaded too, maybe not as jaded as you, but Obama's candidacy represents something special that we haven't seen in decades. People power. That wasn't the point I was trying to make - he's going to be polarizing because some people can't get over the fact of his name or his race, and that is beyond his control and I mean it when I say that part is unfortunate. As far as "change" - he's not different then any of the others, and that is my point. He packages it all up differently, but at the end of the day, he's a politician, with the same bankrolls and fat cats that everyone else has. He flipflops depending on who's giving him the money and showing him THE WAY, and to that point, he's no different then any other candidate. He doesn't give a rat's ass about "people", only power, and in that, he's just like all the rest... and I'm sorry that a lot of people can't see that.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 01:08 PM) So all of us supporting Obama in the fall are brainwashed. Got it. This line of thinking - that Obama has so much less substance than anyone else, that he's all flash - has been peddled throughout the campaign season. And its a joke. During the primaries, people were saying that Obama was nothing but speeches, and never made any tough stances or policy statements. This was patently false. He had all sorts of policy out there, on his website, as well as in POLICY speeches. This is exactly the same as the other candidates. But because Obama is ALSO a much better speaker and more charismatic than other candidates, he was ripped for that, to make him seem hollow. Except its just not the case. Now the GOP is using the same tactic. Similarly, the Dems are trying to portray McCain as being nothing but Bush Part Deux. There are two key points in looking at this... One, neither of those charges is true. Yes, Obama has far less political experience than McCain. Yes, its true that McCain is with Bush on the war and some other key issues. But in reality, both those charges are blatant overstatement and oversimplification of the facts. You want to say that Obama doesn't have the resume for the job? Fine, that's a really good argument. You want to say that McCain's pledges to continue (basically) the Bush policies on the war and the economy? Also a good argument. But to say Obama is nothing but a speech-maker, or that McCain is just another Bush, is absurd and outside of reality. Point one, I didn't say that. Some people will vote Democrat no matter what. Some people will vote for Obama because he seems like a "nice young man"... and then there's those who think the guy is going to change things - I just don't see it - he's more of the same washed up rhetoric this country's seen for years yet no one wants to see that - he's just packaged better then anyone else has been for a long, long time. Those are the people who are brainwashed, IMO, and not "everyone". Obama's surrogates are out there being the attack dogs of old. Obama? Let's take the high road! Riiiiiiiight. I'm not talking about McCain at all. I can't stand the man. I just can't stand Obama worse now because of all the hypocritical spew that's out there. If people stop and a) really listen and B) understand what it is that Obama thinks he is going to do, they should run like hell. For those who hated Hillary so bad, they have the same damn polocies when it comes right down to it. Same for Edwards. Yet, Obama is supposed to be some guy that's "different" and "will bring change", etc.? No way. He's going to polarize folks like no other has in a long, long time, and some of it is not his doing, unfortunately.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) I honestly think you would need to pay 75K people to go watch McCain speak. I can agree with that. The guy's not a good speaker at all.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 01:31 PM) alright kap, we get it. After every athomeboy post you are going to make fun of him and say how it proves that Obama is a bad candidate. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) Heh. Although this is supposedly a "Pro-Obama" thread you can find about 50 posts by Kap that trash Obama in about the same way. QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) I don't care if there is criticism of obama, obviously I came in here for discussion, but the responses to athomeboy posts are getting old and petty and not interesting at all. Kap, you don't like Obama because he's a democrat, alright. We know. Wrong. I don't like Obama because he's brainwashed half of America with his "charm" and "good looks" and his "great speaking abilities". If he were a Democrat, Republican, dips***, whatever, and he would do what I believe to be right, I'd vote for him.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 09:35 AM) what? he cant play psychological games with the GOP? He pretty much psyced Clinton out in the primaries. She had no idea what hit her until it was too late. Yea, because someone running for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES should be someone who "play(s) psychological games" to get elected (your words, not mine). Thank you for making my point so nicely for me.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 10:06 AM) That's a huge psychological thing. THe visuals there are huge. Compare that to where McCain holds these small townhalls with 50-100 people. He's just messing with the GOps head now. RAH RAH RAH! IMPRESSIVE! WOOT! He's just messing with people's heads. Psychological stuff. WOOOHOOOO! Your post pretty much tells me what I need to know about Obama's substance, IMO.

The Twins play a damn good fundamental baseball game. Always have. They are a sound, decent baseball team year in and year out, primarily because they play the game the right way all through their system.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 7, 2008 -> 07:06 AM) While you are absolutely correct about the Sox being their biggest challenge...the Twins have had a relatively easy schedule since the Sox sweep. The only team that is really scary...and that is really only in their own division, is the Brewers. They also played such powerhouses as the Nats, Padres and Indians. Yes, they did play the first place D-Backs, but they are at .500 right now and are struggling. They did take 2/3 from the Tigers and took 4/6 from the Brew Crew, but, this isn't a team that swept the best of the best. Then I would be more worried. The Twins did what we need to do - win against the teams that we should. That is it, in a nutshell, IMO.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 4, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) so, how much will he be making after Obama gets into office and raises taxes? About 15% less from the sounds of it, just on income alone, and then when he invests part of it, probably 15% less then that because he's going to raise capital gains too from the sounds of it. And then, add abother 3.325% when you add the FICA adjustment. Oh, and then when he dies, his heirs will get the s*** taxed out of that, too!! But it's ok, the asshole makes too much money anyway, and those poor people need it for government provided (insert program here) because the government should take care of us all by redistributing wealth from those evvvvvvvvvvvvil f***ing rich people!!!

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 05:25 PM) I do not. he wants to be in Iraq for a 100 years AFTER the fighting ends. The problem is when that 100 years kicks in. When does the fighting stop? These groups have been fighting since far before the countries original 4th of July. John McCain has offered no strategy or time line for the fighgitn to end. he has said we will fight until there is peace and then stay there 100 years... maybe a thousand. Or maybe to the second coming of Jesus, or I mean Obama. :PUKE

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 03:30 PM) oh good lord. Obama says he'd refine his policy and everyone (including nearly every media company) ASSUMED he meant he would reconsider withdrawal. The problem? HE NEVER SAID IT! All I have read is that he would refine it. Not the withdrawal, the tactics involved. Here's his full bloody quote: What did the press run with? "I'm sure I'll have more information and will continue to refine my policies" OMG!!! HE'S STAYIN GIN IRAQ FOR 10 YEARS!!! HE FLIP-FLOPPED! I know, we get it. Obama is perfect, and has the entire world figured out, and how to fix everything that wrongs everyone. Thanks for playing.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Obama is in ND right now saying flat out this war will end and we will begin withdrawing troops immediately. He is not chanign his 16 month withdrawal time table. He is going to Iraq to get more information on how to prepare the Iraqi people for our leaving.. As someone just said on TV, Obama is saying that when he goes to Iraq he is there to refine his tactic, not his strategy. Meaning, the tactics of withdrawal, not to refine his overall strategy of pulling out. Until tomorrow, when he answers the question just a bit different to fit the audience and the questioner.

Boohoo, I now am not the starter of the NHL thread...

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 09:17 AM) McCain Supporters Find Way to Skirt the McCain-Feingold Act A story in today's Wall Street Journal reports on new Republican efforts to circumvent the landmark campaign finance laws named after their top candidate -- the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002. The McCain camp is also trying out some other tactics to get around McCain's 2002 law and rake in more money. The law stinks and is bad for both parties. I don't give a micros*** who's name is on it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...0,3035729.story The last line is pretty interesting. And I have to agree. Obama is NOT what he appears, and I don't understand why people can't see through it.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 09:52 AM) So I had some Kangaroo last night. It's quite good, you should try it sometime. So you're from Austrailia and you've never had Kangaroo until you came to the US? Whats'a matta with you?!?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 08:57 AM) If something like this went into production, it would have the exact opposite effect as demand would crash, and you would probably end up with a supply glut. Which is why this whole thing is a big consipracy theory, and why car manufacturers and oil companies hold all the patents for everything remotely technologically advanced. /adjusts tin hat

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 08:39 AM) BUT TEH ALL SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry Kap, but I had too. Exactly! I just have a really hard time with the choices we have - if this is the best we have in America, it makes me really sad.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 3, 2008 -> 08:04 AM) They never did print $146, at least not yet. The high so far is $145.85, and we are a couple bucks off of that now. 9:30 is gasoline inventories, so all of that could change quickly. We could be at 140 or 150 in a heartbeat. I saw the London ICE rate, not the NYMEX one.

We've heard for years that this is simply not possible. (waits for all the car engineers to appear in the thread, because I've seen those comments on here).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) $144 $145 $146 These bastards are trying to be the "Morgan Stanley self-fullfilling prophecy", aren't they?

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 2, 2008 -> 07:28 PM) De... bunked as a hit peiece article with little to no accurate research and HEAVY innuendo with no supporting facts. Insert McCain instead of Obama, and you'd be posting s*** about McCain like there was no tomorrow. I'm sick of this, and it's not even July 4 yet.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2008 -> 03:20 PM) And now we are looking at the Iraq backpeddle... http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/pos...TliYjJhZDU0ZTc= Of course. But this is just Obama learning the things he has to learn, and it's ok. McCain? Flip-Flopper!