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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) "Make their impact felt" is not the same as bringing the country to its knees. 'See how important we are for a day' is not the same as 'We'll use scorched earth tactics until you capitulate'. This is how many "protests" now, which by the way, really aren't "protests" at all. They're what I like to call "sensationalistic rallys".

Economic growth. We've had this conversation before on soxtalk.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 02:33 AM) Wasn't trying to take you out of context and I think I will not take you literally. So far, any flap, every mistep, every embarassment in the past year has been met by about the same post as you just made. I also believe, you realize some of this s***, is actually f*** ups by Bush and Co. So some where between Bush as the devil and Bush as Saint, is the truth. I can say, I was a coin flip vote this past election, hoping for a strong second term when he was elected. Sadly, I think this term is worse than his first and his first wasn't exactly brilliant. ABSOLUTELY, the truth is somewhere in the middle. However, the main stream media, and the "liberals" that get the itch don't want to believe anything is good about the man at all. BushCo has absolutely screwed the pootch on many issues, and I have always said that if there were a Democrat that could be trusted to stand on national defense (and not smoke and mirrors bulls***) and was a fiscal conservative - meaning a Democrat that could or would admit tax cuts work and figure out another way to make the government more responsible (SPENDING CUTS) I'd vote for him in a minute.

Well no s***. People could retire and tell all the secrets. That's cool. :rolly, again.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 01:16 AM) Whats even better is the Chinese are drilling for oil just outside US territorial waters in that area. I guess if we dont want to drill for the oil the Chinese would be happy to take it all instead. :rolly what's your source for this info?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) How is this punishment? These protestors are not going to work for one day. They're also not getting paid. What's the big deal? People are acting as if they vowed to bring the US to its knees. The stores aren't gonna run out of meat on account of this. I am not going to waste my time finding the quotes, but that's EXACTLY what they were intending... 'to make their impact felt'.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 10:19 PM) I wouldn't characterize Joe Wilson as a whistleblower, per se. He wrote an op ed that strongly questioned the administration contention that nukes from Niger was reliable intel, based on the fact finding trip he had taken. He wasn't an agency insider, so I don't think the whistleblower description is appropriate. Strictly speaking, no, he wasn't an insider. But he was an 'insider'... if you catch my drift.

"Why would you hold a Mexican flag when you are trying to tell America that you love this country..... It's like coming to my house, crapping on the table and then asking 'What are you cooking next?'" - Carlos Mencia

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) Yet, they keep doing stuff and doing stuff. We'll see how Jeb does next . . . Don't take me out of context. These people (our current administration) ain't no saints, that's for sure, but no one in the government is. They all have their political motivation. So people against the administration take these so-called "patriotic whistleblowers" like Ms. McCarthy and Mr. Wilson (gee they worked together on some of the same projects, ain't that nice??????), and put these people on a pedistal like they are s***ting gold bricks or something for "upholding their duty to rat out the (current) administration". You know what? Their insides are made of fool's gold. Maybe that's why they s*** (fake) gold bricks.

http://www.chronicle-tribune.com They have a listing of the folks involved, as well as pictures. That looks pretty bad.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) You want to thank them for doing their patriotic duty too, eh? CIA, NSA, and similar agency employees take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, not to stick their heads in the sand when the actions of the administration controvert the Constitution. The people with questionable morals are the agency officials who knew about rendition with intent to torture and domestic warrrentless spying and didn't think it was their place to question it. Patriotic Duty. :rolly It always comes back to that - that something has to be diabolical or evil or whatever negative connotation with this administration. The dog and pony show about what evil f***s they are gets old. Ms. McCarthy, et al, just couldn't possibly be political in running to the press, could they? It's "patriotic whistleblowing". I call it pathetic. You know what? QUIT then (now the media is spinning it that she did - protect, protect, protect). And then go on a speaking tour around the country and call attention to it that way. Oh wait, then she couldn't have been a mole inside feeding the press the information. I almost forgot.

This accident happened 5 minutes from where my parents are. And they were almost home, which made it worse. I spent (more time then I cared to) quite a bit of time at Taylor Univ.

Boz, the star.

QUOTE(bmags @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) why people want their gov't to be so secretive is beyond me... Because you don't need to know everything? What good is it to know that we have detention centers for terrorists? What would it change? If we get information from these people, it's worth it, and it SHOULD be COVERT.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12513053/from/RS.2/ Damn! That hits close to home, literally. to the families and friends of those involved.

Summer in Texas, by a long shot. The Dan Ryan, or overcrowded South Shore Train?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) This is for those little tidbits of info that strike you as interesting... To start with, the Dow Jones Industrial Average opened at 40.94 on May 26, 1896, it is currently teetering around 11,400.00. If you had invested $100 in a DJIA index on that date, you would currently be looking at $27,845.62. It's not more then that with "time value of money" principals? Come on, Bill Day, Jr.

Why, of course, Scooter Libby, who was told by Cheney, who was told by Bush. No one else except anyone tied to the president does that "leaking", only "whistleblowing". :rolly

WOOOOOHOOOOOOO! Screw them. I have no sympathy for these people if their stated intent is to inflict harm on the economy... go ahead, bite the hand that feeds you. Morons. Meanwhile, are all you AMERICANS, regardless of heritage, ready to buy some crap on Monday?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) who? the terrorists? No, our presidents. Yep, the terrorists.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 06:50 PM) I've been thinking about what would have happened if this unfolded today. There would likely been no negoatiations, no Algiers Accord, maybe a better plan for a military rescue. I don't believe we have advanced much in our dealings with terrorists in the past 20-25 years. They need a foot upside their ass and kicked out of this life. That's how you deal with them.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 07:08 PM) Tell the wife to spit that kid out quick for the extra $100 Taxpayers, not people. Maybe I can get the baby to pay some taxes right when she's born. Speaking of which, I guess this deserves its own thread, but it getting close. About a week away, for those of you in soxtalk land that care.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 06:57 PM) So do you still get the $ if you don't own a car? LMAO! It might be enough to make you vote Republican, don't you think?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 06:29 PM) Ah, thank heavens the GOP Senators are rushing to the rescue. The big plan from the brain trust: Give us a hundred bucks for gas money. Tell me again, is it an election year?? Of course that will buy about one tank of gas for an SUV. Oh, yeah, and if the bill goes through it'll also mean opening up some of ANWR. . . But what the hell do you want, it is a hundred bucks after all. :rolly I agree that the $100 is STUPID. Oh boy. $200 is going to make my family a big, big deal... :rolly

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 06:11 PM) E85 is a newer blend that they're building cars to be able to run on. That blend is 85% eth, either by weight or by volume, I'm not sure which. The stuff which is adding $.10 or so per gallon is mandates to run on something like E10, a blend of 10% ethanol. As I understand it, Congress last year passed a mandate forcing almost everywhere to start running on E10, which, given that many places are far away from ethanol refineries and didn't have supplies of the stuff beforehand, has raised the prices somewhat, since they need to find suppliers & add in the transport. THis is the one that I think was basically another farm subsidy. Several major cities, like Chicago, L.A., etc, have mandated E10 blends for years, since the E10 blends are actually less polluting than straight unleaded. This is more manageable and makes more sense to me on a city-scale rather than on a nationwide scale, since with a city, you have a focused pollution source, and if you cut that pollution by 10% you make a big dent. But in the country, it's just moving around the pollution sources. oh... I misunderstood. The E10 blend is what we just started having to use, and I've seen a decrease of about 2 mpg in my explorer since the switch.