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Cooper should hit the road before Steverson. Does a true Tank fan root for the Tigers this weekend or have they already won the tiebreaker.

Yea, in most circumstances that would be...but this is a Renteria managed ballclub. But I guess it doesn't really matter what the intent was...they didn't use their stronger bullets. Several of these players are interesting, but it would be nice if a few would become studs.

I'd feel a lot better if I were confident that that they were losing on purpose.

Except that that didn't exactly work out swimmingly. Rodon is okay but not much more. The Astros passed on him and ended up with Bregman a year later.

I know what a successful rebuild looks like. This ain't it. Last time they were trying to put a bunch of free agents around 3 quality players: Sale, Q and Eaton. Now they would do it around...what exactly? A few players who may turn out to be good. Both premature.

That's fine if they want to go after Machado or Harper; or even a 2nd/3rd tier pitcher like Corbin...some stability in the rotation will help. Otherwise, it's a repeat of 2015 which prompts one to ask, why rebuild?

I hear ya, but your plan depends on the assumption that Hahn would have come up with that package. That's a tenuous assumption. See Todd Frazier, a similar player (and several other of Hahn's July deals).

It would be nice, not that it would do much good anyway. Can't wait to get another Gillaspie, Cordell or Madeiros

It's been so dismal that fans are turning into masochists. Another round of Shields? Dear lord.

Tonight was a righteous tanking effort. I realize the advantage of finishing behind the Marlins....but, my god, how can we be so bad as to finish behind the Marlins!

Nate Jones - another spot on the 40 man now freed.

Except that the ownership let the same people who ran the org. into the ground stay in charge for the rebuild, as per above. That is a problem, and, if this doesn't work in the next couple of years, the problem.

Leury, Rondon and Yolmer are utility players; Leury can play OF and is probably the best SS of the 3. Yolmer probably has the most trade value, but the Sox, par usual, have nothing behind him at 3B. Yolmer also walks some and something tells me he might explode soon. Delmonico had a rough year; I can see the Sox dumping, but I don't see a real urgency to dump.

If we don't have a playoff team by (generously - 9 years!!!!) 2021, then we can write.....

Yes, but they were trying to win until 2 years ago, albeit ineptly.

Garr's batting average was good. His OPS was modest, to be kind.

I don't fault JR for not spending, and that sort of thing - he has spent. He can go either way on spending. I do fault him for over-loyalty and I feel that he will be comfortable should the White Sox fall into a decade long Royals/Pirates funk, for which I think there is a decent chance, and he won't do what is needed to shake the organization out of it.

That would be a much needed good outcome on the pitching front.

We hope; but Robert doesn't have a single homer outside of the DSL and Gonzalez is still in A ball himself. I guess Engel starts - but he's a bad hitter, but I guess there's not reason not to give him another year at this point.

I don't think he quite did that, but he was an above average regular for them for 10+ years. The post 58 transactions are probably the most egregious, but, as you said, they have a habit of doing that sort of thing. In the late 60s they trade for Tommy Davis and an aging Aparicio and the team hits the skids. Then it's Ron Santo and Ralph Garr. And then Bobby Bonds (for the highly productive Brian Downing; Dotson coming the Sox way as a thrown-in took some of the sting away).

I believe that they also traded Norm Cash around that time.

And Bobby Knoop, Syd O'Brien and Gary Janeski. And then Roland came in and took care of things......Made some real baseball trades like Ken Berry and Syd O'Brien for Tom Bradley and Rick Reichardt.

Ritchey and Shields is a righteous comparison. I'm just looking for 4 more wins.

Stick to your guns, Moncada. That will turn. IN the meantime, work on fouling off pitches you don't like.

Of course they should. But it would require an investment they don't want to make (if they did, they'd have the team). And yet, it would seem that, say, a second Az team would be a fairly modest investment.