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He had a 6.49 ERA, a 1.5 WHIP and averaged 4.4 strikeouts the year before....and Hahn paid him $1.5 million.....

Well whose record did the owner break? His own - he's been owner for the last 40 years. It's called creating your own reality. I'm not so sure he's cheap...the front office personnel are just really bad investors. They'd rather spend Machado money on 5 stiffs instead of 1 guy who can actually play.

2016 alone (and this doesn't include every signing) when the Sox were "going for it": Austin Jackson $5 million Navarro $4 million Latos $3 million Avila $2.5 million Albers $2 million Rollins $2 million Turner $1.5 million Total: $20 million And for the coup de grace, add $5 million for Shields.

None of the above (except for Harper).

That's true. And even if Jiminez, Kopech, Moncada, Anderson and a few others develop as expected, if they don't draft and develop better than they have, it won't last long. But there is a chance the team could be decidedly better this year if Moncada, Anderson, Engel, Lopez, and Giolito take big jumps, which they all could.

I'd feel better about the move of Moncada to 3b if they also announced that Anderson was taking reps at catcher.

Most of the division looks like the Sox, and while the Sox farm looks pretty good now, the Sox aren't exactly in the upper tier of talent evaluation and development. IN one sense the Indians' window is closing...but it's also true that they have far more productive young players on their major league team than the Sox do.

Do you think that response, which basically tells Machado "we don't need you," in some sort of bluff play, I suppose, will succeed?

I consider that 2017. 2016 was Latos, Rollins, Shields, Navarro, and it gets worse from there. Yes, I agree, they had to rebuild by that point.

2016 was worse- he spent $25 million on a bunch of nothing. And June 2016, specifically, was a disaster. He should have fired after 2016. Once that didn't happen, I expect him to be GM for as long as he wants.

I am confident that Heyman will tweet information that only an insider can provide: that when 3 teams are after 2 players, then at least one of those teams will be shut out and not get a player.

And you get the player..probably earlier than now as he'd have had a number closer to what he expected and would have the goodwill that he was treated well. I realize that a big number could be overbidding- but a) overbiding is something they will have to do to get the player given the state of the team and org the past decade and b) overbidding is a de minimis concern, especially when they just spent a bunch of money on his overpaid friends.

Looks like the Sox got outbid...figured this would happen with the "we don't want to bid against ourselves" nonsense. Now just jump the Padres' bid.

Well the Sox could and certainly should top any of those offers.

You're right. Machado alone won't turn this bunch into a winner. It will revolve around development and talent evaluation. And given the history in that regard, the org. could really use the jump start of Machado. Plus, there is no one in the pipeline at 3B.

Fair enough although I could add a few bars to that song. And Byrnes was the GM who sent Rizzo to the Cubs.

No way could Rick Hahn be outfoxed or out GMed by Preller.

Rankers tend to give high draft picks the benefit of the doubt for a season or 2. Our top guys are very good, as they should be...we gave up a lot to acquire them. But the ongoing absence of draft picks is troubling and gives me pause as to whether this pipeline will be continually replenished.

The $250 rumor struck me as solid (as far as rumors go) so it would make sense that a Yankees $220 wouldn't beat a Sox $250. But it's kind of cutting it close.

I don't want to envision it - I want to see it!

Great player. Entertaining player. I'll miss him around MLB. May he rest in peace.

Just not interested in losing any good prospects for a 2 year player when one of those years is a throw-away year.

Based on rankings it's probably light. But a good GM and his team are much better talent evaluators than the rankings, so we'll see what Jeter's got. Who's going to the the best prospects 6 months or a year from now? And avoid the stunted ones.

"Literally" because he's ineffective and is not helping his team when he is...that is why

A couple of those are fine, but "3 batter minimum for pitchers" is idiotic. It's will last as long as pitchers start faking injuries.