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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 03:08 PM) So much for a Civilized Election Campaign: Obama spokesman Bill Burton: “While Barack Obama wants to change American foreign policy to wind down the war in Iraq and address the grave threat posed by a resurgent al Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan, John McCain offers this patently misleading negative ad. Given his calls for a civil campaign, it's disappointing that Senator McCain has slipped so easily into the same, tired campaign tactics that have become so familiar to the American people."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 02:34 PM) I think you just linked to and quoted pretty much the same thing I posted. DOH!

So much for a Civilized Election Campaign:

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 01:01 PM) Honestly no, they're not. You've looked at records of proceedings on house.gov or senate.gov before I assume? There are plenty of votes of the "Voted YES on congratulating some person on some accomplishment" variety. Now if we're talking something like telecom immunity, or immigration reform, they'll fly back to Washington for those. exactly.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) Who said I wasn't upset about it? You all do a fine job of reporting every single one of McCain's downfalls. What's the need to replicate that? There is no one else who talks about Obama's similar activities. If you were doing that, I wouldn't have posted it again either. I should note: I changed the wording of my post. I inadvertently said "You can attack". I meant "People can attack".

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) I actually agree that its a problem, but I don't fully blame McCain or Obama for that. The reason its happening is the current, overly long format of a Presidential run. Here's an idea: Would it be out of bounds to allow "televotes"? Either phone in or vote online? I know there is reasons why people should be present to debate and such, but if you allow someone say, 10 televotes a year, might that work?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) FWIW, they are both below average when compared with their peers. And to me, they are all important votes. If they weren't important, they wouldn't get to the level where they are being voted on in the first place. yes and no. There are some votes that are so unanimous that there largely isnt a point in going back. I'd be more interested in "close vote" presence statistics. What bothered me was this: People can attack Obama for a "flip-flop" on FISA. I get that that's fine. at least he voted. On the Medicare vote a few weeks back that was skin tight in votes, McCain didnt show up (Ted Kennedy did!) and released a press release saying he liked parts, but didnt like others. No indication if he would have voted for it or not. now THAT is vote dodging.

Phil Gramm's back on the Flip-Flop Express:

Class Act McCain up to it again. I guess the "civilized" campaign promise was just usual McCain double talk:

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 12:28 PM) Why would anyone be listening to John Stossel anyway? Might as well get your new from Jesse Jackson or Ann Coulter. If I dont listen to Jesse Jackson he'll cut my nuts off!!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/07/...l_time_hori.php The United States and Iraq have agreed to seek "a general time horizon" for deeper reductions in American combat troops in Iraq. Iraqi officials, in a sign of growing confidence as violence decreases, have been pressuring the United States to agree to a specific timeline to withdraw U.S. forces. President Bush has adamantly opposed a timeline, and the White House said Friday that the timeframe being discussed would not be "an arbitrary date for withdrawal." Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki talked about the timing issue as part of discussions over a broader security agreement to keep American troops in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires on Dec. 31. The White House says the two leaders, in a conversation on Thursday, agreed that the accord should include "a general time horizon for meeting aspirational goals, such as the resumption of Iraqi security control in their cities and provinces and the further reduction of U.S. combat forces from Iraq." Iraq has proposed requiring U.S. forces to fully withdraw five years after the Iraqis take the lead on security nationwide — though that precondition could take years to meet. Earlier this month, Iraq's national security adviser, Mouwaffak al-Rubaie, said Baghdad would not accept any security deal unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces. Al-Maliki also has said he expects the pending troop deal with the United States to have some type of timetable for withdrawal. Bush has vetoed legislation approved by the Democratic Congress setting deadlines for American troop cutbacks.

By the way: John Stossel had the quote of the year last night on Larry King Live. When trying to discredit and poo-poo Gores idea, he said this, and I am quoting "wind and solar energy pollute too!" His first reason was a little odd: wind turbines kill birds. how does that pollute? His second was a little more reasonable, but sill silly: Well, you have to transport solar panels and the requires polluting trucks. He once said Oil Companies are Heroes:

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 11:34 AM) http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/7/17/175641/206 I agree 100%. 10 years was WAY too drastic. My apologies for not remembering this quote right, but my Jr High volleyball coach once said something along the lines of "if you shoot for the sun, you'll get to the moon. if you shoot for the moon, you'll get to the street light". I think it was said more artful than that, but you get my point. I say shoot for the sun and be happy with the moon.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 08:28 AM) That is reassuring... 62.6% for McCain should be a little more alarming. That includes important votes that even Ted Kennedy showed up for. And is 12% more than Sen. Johnson who suffered a brain hemorrhage on Dec. 13, 2006.

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This made me laugh:

I am not sure if this was posted already, but:

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 12:51 PM) Yah, I don't buy that Olympics things either. p.s. Mark Halperin was on Charlie Rose the other night and thought the frontrunners for Obama are Tim Kaine, Kathleen Sebelius, and Evan Bayh. Romney for McCain. I dont by Tim Kaine, Kathleen Sebelius. But Evan Bayh is jumping up the charts apparently. Basically, for 2 reasons: a Hillary Supporter and "do no harm"

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) It was in a thread regarding some poll numbers and you were vehemently supporting McCain's case on winning. the NC polls? yea, it's close. But you all will have to wait until my next poll update post next Wednesday.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) See that you're posting on TPM. I've been found! lol Where did you see that? PS: same on there as on here. I try to keep the same "name" across all boards / websites. SOme sites dont allow a "_", so i drop it. If it is for professional reasons, then I use First Initinal then my Last Name.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 11:53 AM) I'd be more than happy, as would a lot of Dems btw, to drop opposition to drilling in a lot of areas (although the offshore stuff is still troublesome for other reasons, especially in tourism-rich areas...oil spills aren't that great for Miami beach) in exchange for a legit program to do exactly that along with a legit carbon price. Considering that all the drilling this country could possibly do can't disguise the fact that Saudi Arabia has 10x more oil than we do and their production is peaking and domestic U.S. production peaked 30 years ago...I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of the environment to finally get a real program started. It really is something that you can think of like an addiction. Going cold turkey is hard. But your choices are cutting back starting right now or, well, death. You can have a little bit more, but if you dont' cut back you're screwed. Could the US government put in place some sort of a program where they agree to open up areas for drilling in exchange for a promise or some sort of a heavy tax to put into solar / wind deployment? Maybe open up the areas for 10-15 only and use those profits / taxes to fund the next generation energy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 11:50 AM) Hmm, while I was gone, it seems the Wall Street Journal reported that they were hearing Obama's campaign raised $30 million in June. Oops. Typically when numbers are "leaked" early about Obama's numbers, they are way of. I have two theories on this and both are equally likely. 1) People low in the organization see only some of the numbers. 2) The leaks are intended to show how his numbers are way beyond projected numbers and have a "wow" factor.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 10:05 AM) Gore sets "moonshot" goal on fuels, climate change In a statement released after Gore's speech, Barack Obama chimed in: "For decades, Al Gore has challenged the skeptics in Washington on climate change and awakened the conscience of a nation to the urgency of this threat. I strongly agree with Vice President Gore that we cannot drill our way to energy independence, but must fast-track investments in renewable sources of energy like solar power, wind power and advanced biofuels, and those are the investments I will make as President. It's a strategy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and cannot be outsourced, and one that will leave our children a world that is cleaner and safer."

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26/gore-responds-to-drudge/ 1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology. 2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains: What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.