HuskyCaucasian

Quick Update: Chuck Todd on MSNBC just said he's heard a LOT of private polling shows Obama ahead by small margins in Indiana.

Dang those pesky facts, they get in the way of old fashioned political slander: FactCheck.org: McCain misrepresents Obama's stand on naming Revolutionary Guard as terrorists.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 02:07 PM) Out of curiousity Obama is going to win IL pretty easily in 2008, then what is the point this year? One, i believe in him and want to show my support. I wasn't nearly as motivated in 2004. I still considered myself a republican back in 2004, i just didnt like Bush. Two, I registered to vote in the primaries and I now have more understanding on local politics.

QUOTE (vandy125 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) But those 250,000 votes are nothing compared to what you can get by concentrating on a place like LA where you can get that amount in 1 city. no doubt. but the candidates would be forced to play the entire country. This is why I hope Obama's 50 state plan will eventually lead to the National Popular Vote bill gaining momentum when people see that politicians will actually visit the "minor" states.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 01:06 PM) Actually, I'd suggest the opposite will happen. If you are in a small state, probably, they don't bother anyway. Unless its a "swing" state - then it doesn't matter if its big or small, they'll matter. But that's the whole problem with it. The electoral college artificially disenfranchises 80% of the electorate who don't live in "swing" states. If you have a truly national vote, then every vote counts the same. that's basically my stance too. If Obama had not decided to run a 50 state campaign, the people of Texas and Illinois would really see or hear from the candidates. There's no point. McCain should win TX easily and Obama IL. But with a national system, they have to visit. what about the small states? Same thing. 50,000 votes in Idaho, Montana, the Dakotas, and Wyoming is 250,000 more votes. A national election also means that EVERY vote counts and i really believe voter turn out would go up. In 2004, i would have voted for Kerry, but i never registered. what was the point? He was going to win IL anyways. At the time I wasn't really vested in local politics to make an educated vote.

it's a waste of my time to try and debate this. Edit: actually, let me make one final comment. he said "bad trade deals", not "bad free trade deals". We do have a trade deal with China, right? It's bad, right? nothing he said was inaccurate. It's pretty lame to try and say he said we had free trade with China. he never said it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 12:50 PM) Apparently China is in NAFTA now? http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/pos...TRmZjUyZTdjYzc= helps if you read the quote: "...plants shipped overseas as a consequence of bad trade deals like NAFTA"

As was noted in a blog, they way want to change the last line in the ad: In an ironic touch, the ad, after showing at least half a dozen of McCain's positions on when the troops would come home, concludes that he represents "more of the same on Iraq."

Looks like the Straight Talk Express lost a few wheels- McCain Campaign Restricts Press Access

Week in Review (July 2nd-8th) It seems like the 4th of July weekend slowed down polling between July 3rd and July 9th. So, most of these polls were released Wednesday and Thursday of last week. Any impact of the Iraq “refinement” fued would not be shown here. However, the nation wide tracking polls have shown no change. Lousiana (Southern Media & Opinion Research) McCain 52%; Obama 36% Connecticut (Quinnipiac) – Obama 56%; McCain 35% Gerogia (Strategic Vision) – McCain 51%; Obama 43%; Barr 3% Florida (Strategic Vision) – McCain 49%; Obama 41% Massachusetts (Rasmussen) – Obama 53%; McCain 33% Connecticut (Rasmussen) – Obama 52%; McCain 35% Rhode Island ( Rhode Island College) – Obama 53%; McCain 25% Connecticut (Research 2000) - Obama 57%; McCain 35% New York (Rasmussen) - Obama 60%; McCain 29% Montana (Rasmussen) – Obama 48%; McCain 43% Washington (Strategies 360) - Obama 47%; McCain 39% Georgia (InAdv/PollPosition) - McCain 46%; Obama 44%; Barr (L) 4 Rhode Island (Rasmussen) - Obama 55%; McCain 31% The only major point from this weeks polls is Montana. All the other polls seem to be par for the course. Montana, though, is a bit interesting. It's a complete and exact reversal of a month ago. What does this mean? I have no idea. Rasmussen is on my “use with caution” list, so it could just be a bad poll or an outlier. Only time will tell. Ok, with the officially released polls out of the way, here is the major story of the week to me. Zogby just released a 21 day long polling of all 50 states (or some they say, some states have no data). Here's the basics: Obama wins 273-160 with 105 too close to call. Here's the big deal: Bob Barr. According to their polls, he pulls anywhere from 4-9% in KEY states including Nevada, Arizona, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Missouri, Ohio, and Indiana. According to their polls in those states, Obama wins thanks to Bob Barr. In some of these swing states, 1 or 2 percent could swing the state one way or the other. Barr pulling 5% is a MAJOR deal. Key a CLOSE eye on Bob Barr. He very well could be the Ross Perot of 2008. 118 Days until Election Day

Teaser for Wednesday's Weekly Poll Data: Nothing officially public as best as I can tell, but there is a significant spoiler possibility based on some new polling data from june. However, the data is from a pollster that was accurate in the 2008 primaries, but NOT in the 2004 presidential election.

Once again, Ozzie bows before the alter of Uribe.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2008 -> 05:46 PM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66012 D'OH! I suck at this. sorry man. MODS: can you merge this with the other thread? thanks.

A more detailed explanation: PickensPlan.com

This is a great debate:

McCain: "no ablo espanol".... i mean "No hablo hechos"

McCain Responds to Maliki's Call for an Iraq Withdrawal Timetable OOPS! Looks like a shift in position to me. They asked us to leave... his response: "well... umm... conditions on the ground are what matter most, not what they ask"

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 8, 2008 -> 01:20 PM) So, 'refining your position' is now a flip-flop? That should make Obama the master! He has 'refined his position' so much this campaign, I wonder if he remembers what it was to start with. did you read what was written? I'm not getting into the Obama "refining" debate. that was the largest load of horse **** that i've seen in a long time. In this case, it would be a DIRECT flip if McCain says we must stay even if asked to leave. And if he now says we should leave, like he promised in 2004, wouldnt that make America less safe by his own definition?

LMAO! The AP has apparently decided that pets is an important campaign issue: Are you freaking kidding me?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 8, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Again, you are really stretching here. Where is the flip-flop? It's not that he has flip-flopped, it's to pay attention to if he WILL. Sorry, i should have made that more clear. He said he should go if asked. They asked us to go. So, by McCain's words, we should leave. BUT, if he says we need to stay longer and not have a time table for withdrawal, he's flipped. Update: I also got to thinking... if he now says we SHOULD set a timetable to withdrawal in the next 2 years, wouldn't that be a flip as well? He continues to push that our presence in Iraq = national security. If he now says we must leave, wouldn't that mean America is less safe by his definition?

Pay attention to how this plays out: Is McCain Poised To 'Refine His Position' On Iraq? So, if McCain says we must stay... hmmm...

Some new information... Since this post was started on March 27th, the National Popular Vote bill was enacted into law in Hawaii and the bill has passed Rhode Island's House and Senate, the Vermont's House (previously passed by the Senate), and California's Assembly (it previously passed the Senate in 2007). If it gets signed by the governors in those 3 states, it iwll make 7 states total who have signed onto the bill and 112 electoral votes towards the needed 270. That's 41.45%. And today, Dukakis is calling for an end to Electoral College: “I think it is high time we got rid of the Electoral College and elected our presidents the way we elect every other elected official in the country - by a vote of the people,” Dukakis wrote in a letter e-mailed to state lawmakers yesterday. “The overwhelming majority of the American people do, too.”

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 8, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) That's quite cool. I might have to attend one of those. same here

One month before the Olympics, the dirtiest air in China is in Beijing

The White House sure likes bury it's head- The synopses: "well... umm..... politically, we dont want them to say that, so obviously they didnt... you made it up. We reserve the right to scrub his comments from the record" Let me clarify for the white house what he said: “The current trend is to reach an agreement on a memorandum of understanding either for the departure of the forces or to put a timetable on their withdrawal,” That's pretty clear to me.