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Trever Miller? WTF? He's older than my mom. My goodness.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:23 PM) And still finish in 3rd place at best For this year. Going forward? I smell an early 90's like run by them. This is no hyperbole. AA shredded two of the top 5 worst contracts in baseball, fattened up their system, and got a stud 5-tool CF for two relievers and a #4 starter. He's done this in like two years.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:16 PM) They dont have the talent of TB, and I thought their minor league system was overvalued? When are you taking your break? Huh? Toronto has a consensus top 3 system in baseball.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:09 PM) Feel free to adopt my signature. This is a crock of s***. Where are you badger? I thought Viciedo had to be included? Jackson, Thornton, and Reed and this gets done. I'll do just that. I'll make my sig my avy.

Cardinals fans are definitely on suicide watch. http://www.birdsonthebat.org/showthread.php?t=61173

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) Jays fans are probably pretty excited about getting Rasmus. However this will certainly die back down when they realize they have zero shot at winning their division or even making the playoffs any time soon. Please. Tampa has won two of the last three division titles in that same division. Toronto is coming. They have the best GM in baseball and a WAVE of talent on the horizon.

Now I don't give a s*** about Stewart. I figured the Cardinals were getting a Drabek or McGuire in return. Wow, this is awful.

QUOTE (shakes @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:48 AM) How is that? We had Jackson, and better relievers than they gave up. I don't even like Rasmus nearly as much as some do on this site, but it's clear to me the Sox could have had him rather easily, but it was instead about dumping Teahen's contract. Pathetic. We are worse off this year than we were and no better for the future. Save a few million we can't spend. I can't believe how far this organization has fallen. And I stuck up for KW a lot, in the past. I edited. I read something that was totally wrong, obviously.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) When does this break start? Because you said this like an hour ago. That was Steve.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) Edwin Jackson + 2 relievers? You think KW couldn't have done better? Are you joking? Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) I'm going to say that yes KW could have easily bested this. And I'm going to say you belong in a rubber room.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:33 AM) The people that like Stewart had better be right because he's really the one guy that can salvage the entire Daniel Hudson/Edwin Jackson saga of the last year. I don't think Frasor can, although he is a decent reliever. There's nothing that can salvage that deal. KW lost that one for eternity. Not just Hudson. But how good with David Holmberg look in our system right about now?

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) So which is it? Rasmus is the next Ted Williams or the Cards can't wait to get rid of him? Can't be both. This is clearly a case of the Cardinals choosing LaRussa over Rasmus. Nothing to do with his ability.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) I understand there's still a ton of bad feelings about the Hudson/Jackson deal, but this deal has nothing to do with Hudson. Jackson and Teahen were traded for Frasor, Stewart, and cash. It was not Hudson for Frasor. Or that we lost out on Colby Rasmus due to lack of a farm system. I think that's where the main frustration comes from. And lol@it being even insinuated that Jackson/Thornton would be enough. Rasmus' potential is unlimited. They weren't going to give him away.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) Jackson was walking after the year, Teahen's contract was f***ing pathetic, Frasor will be useful, decent prospect. It's obviously not an awesome move but s***... Yeah, my tone has changed a little after learning Stewart was involved. I guess his long-term prognosis is that of a power reliever. Under the circumstances, I'll take it.

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) Stewarts numbers are horrible. He's been mediocre this year. But he was a consensus top 5 prospect in their system coming into the year. s***, beggars can't be choosers. I'll take it.

We got Stewart? Hmmm. Well that makes this a little more tolerable.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) I've been a lot more upset than I am because the Blue Jays likely got Rasmus (who is a GREAT talent, but is a bit hot and cold with his peformance and doesn't seem great in the clubhouse) instead of us due to having better prospects. However, the fact that they did just shows yet again that our inability to have a good minor league system really, really hurts us. There's a reason I b**** about that like I do. And there's a reason I overrate prospects to a degree. It's THIS time of year where your scouting and player development gets a chance to shine. We won't spend. We take football players that can't play baseball. Latin America? Who needs it. Go trade for JP and Mark Teahen.

Wow, the top 3 GMs in baseball all reside in the AL east. Could you imagine if Toronto were in our division? 15 consecutive division titles would be on the horizon.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:42 AM) Jackson, in his time with the Sox, has an ERA of 3.66 and an ERA+ of 114. He's been mediocre this year. The numbers don't match up with the stuff. He's extremely inefficient.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:37 AM) One thing Id like to do is thank Edwin Jackson for playing his butt off. Nice guy and a good player just to bad he was paid so much. I would also like to thank Edwin for contributing to my alcohol abuse with his painful to sit through 120 pitch clusterf***s that forced me to drink even more to compensate for excessive boredom. Good riddance.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:33 AM) Steve, If it was Thornton, Jackson + prospect, the prospect had to be Viciedo otherwise the savings versus trading Teahen instead of Thornton just isnt great enough. Unless the spect the Sox are getting is dynomite. What prospect would they want besides Dayan? I wouldn't do that. But the lack of a decent system besides Dayan has screwed us for the second consecutive season.

All I have to say is Alex Asosoefhjfdjsf is quickly becoming one of the top 5 GMs in all of baseball.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) Are people really freaking out that the Jays will flip Jackson + Teahen for Rasmus? ...if they flip them for Rasmus I'd put it at about 1000% that they also include one of their top prospects which the Sox don't have any of. Not flipping out. But the lack of a competent minor league system is about to sodomize this organization once again.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. Huh? What have I missed?