Jordan4life_2007

PK's getting 12 million next year.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) fathom would say he's found a new supplier. Isn't that Balta's line?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:26 PM) Baseballs a business. Flowers can't be concerned about where he plays, he just needs to make sure he hits and if he does, he'll have nothing to worry about. But right now, he's got far more things to worry about than whether he gets dealt or not (like not sucking). Jason, you're not feeling me. KW deals prospects like they're set to expire. I'm just saying that say we wanted to deal Flowers for something of value that letting it get out they were willing to deal him for a rental probably won't help.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) Mentioning that we were gonig to deal him doesn't hurt his trade value. His s***ty play has hurt his trade value. Certainly doesn't help. We're not taking about an organization loaded with catching prospects. If they were so willing to deal him for two months of Dunn they're pretty much telling everybody they don't value him much.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:22 PM) I don't think anyone can feel upset we have Edwin Jackson now for 7 months instead of Dunn for 30 more days. I don't. I'm saying from Flowers' point of view.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:21 PM) Why was that a f*** up? Because he potentially killed any trade value he had.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:16 PM) Flowers isn't an answer. I think we are going to see a few tweaks to the club. I look forward to what Beckham can do next year, but clearly, we'll have to make some moves to upgrade the offense. However, our offense this season hasn't been near as bad as some of you would make us think. The unfortunate thing is with a legitimate DH we have a really good offense this year (hopefully Manny will be that). Last inning was awful, top of the order due up and I'm glad cause Pierre has been money. There's no way we can expect PK to have a similar year in 2011 (IF we bring him back). And Pierre has overachieved. Like fathom, I'm not salivating over our potential offense for next year.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:15 PM) He needs to repeat AAA and either rake or find himself a new job. KW totally f***ed up when he let it get out that Flowers and Jackson was his final offer for two months of Dunn.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:10 PM) He looks like someone who's done with, with regards to bat speed. But we've got Tyler Flowers and his 35% K% and .769 OPS at AAA to look forward to next year.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:09 PM) It is really amazing how bad AJ has been offensively this year. He barely ever hits the ball hard. Second lowest wOBA among every day catchers. He's been Jason Kendall bad. Defense has been his saving grace this year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:08 PM) But then we end up with someone like Daric Barton as our 1B...there's just no way we can get back another bat that will give you 30 HR's and 100 RBI's for Quentin. We couldn't even find a DH who could put up .275, 25, 80 for less than $8 million over the last year. Losing Konerko (or Konerko having a more likely "down" season at his age)...there's just no replacement offensively for Carlos, unfortunately. He'll get one more year...Gordon Beckham, as good as he was for most of 2009, couldn't hit a lick at USCF, and that made no sense either. Make CQ your full-time DH and search for another RF.

I still want to see Edwin against legitimate lineups, but wow!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:56 PM) There is no denying that Q has the ability to be an absolute force in the lineup and given the possibility of Konerko being. gone our offense is going to need another bat. He's so abysmal defensively that whatever offense he brings to the table is negated. I don't think most people truly realize how bad he's been this year. Adam Dunn might be pointing and laughing. Carlos has no business, at least shouldn't have an business, playing RF.

QUOTE (rafacosta @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:52 PM) well...i just made that up but might happen. btw manny possibly is a better defender than quentin. He's been by far the worst every day right fielder in baseball from a defensive standpoint. The eyes tell us this and the metrics REALLY tell us this. A -13 +/- and a -17 UZR.

lmao@Carlos. God damn he's terrible.

QUOTE (rafacosta @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:47 PM) manny is not playing tomorrow bc is a 1 pm game. ozzie will say he is tired and still is on pacific time - all of this for kotsay. the reason we brought damn manny was in situation like right now...f***..cant get the damn man on 3rd with less than 2 outs. Awesome. So we win the claim almost a week ago and Manny still has yet to play. This probably won't end well.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) Jeter will get it again, watch. Wouldn't surprise me at all. They really need to abolish the award. What happened to Franklin Gutierrez last year was an embarrassment for baseball.

QUOTE (WinorDie88 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) The coaches from both leagues decide who should get the GG? No, AL coaches and managers vote on the award in the AL.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:40 PM) Alexei has the GG locked up. You must be crazy. Not with these dumbass managers/coaches botching the award every year.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 01:36 AM) Ozzie doesnt speak perfect english. It's not to rip him at all it would make it funnier and make us laugh. But for god sakes have you ever criticized Ozzie in any fashion or is whatever he does perfect? I'm now thoroughly convinced that greg is really Oney.

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 11:42 PM) I feel bad for Anderson. If he had a real chance to develop in the majors (not being pushed aside for the greats of Mackowiak, Erstad, Wise, Owens, etc) he may of been able to hit decent enough, even if its just the 9 hole, a young, cheap player that can hit decent enough and play solid defense...would of been a solid piece to the puzzle. He had so much potential, deserved better. Speechless.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 03:58 AM) To be fair Manny was traded to the Dodgers July 31, 2008. But its funny how we now have Juan Pierre and Manny Ramirez. I see. Now I get it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 03:31 AM) and we've basically recomprised the Dodgers' starting outfield from 2 seasons ago, lol I don't get it? The Dodgers starting OF in '08 was Manny/Kemp/Ethier.

QUOTE (T R U @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 02:08 AM) Its kind of hard to think of his attitude as a problem with the production he has put up over his career.. its not like hes Milton Bradley or something.. if you look at Mannys career numbers, even if was half assing it at some points, those are still superior numbers to many high end players in this league.. I must be missing something. Manny was an integral part of two World Series title teams in Boston. Almost single-handedly pushed the Dodgers to the postseason in 2008. BUT OMG, HE'S NOT A GOOD GUY! The guy has an OPS of over .900 in the limited time he's played this year. Yeah, almost 4 million to one guy for a little over a month's work isn't ideal. But how could anybody say it wouldn't be worth it if he helps us get to the playoffs? Would it be better if we just stood pat and continued to roll wit Kotsay and the all or nothing Jones? I commend Kenny, who I've been very critical of this year, for not giving up and attempting to right an obvious wrong back in March. As for steroids? GET THE f*** OVER IT! I'm stoked about this addition.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) That's what I'm thinking. Its not like a trade where they really don't have any option except maybe partial salary relief and a garbage prospect or 2. If I'm Coletti, I'm taking as much cash as possible unless KW wants to give me a guy like Mitchell or maybe take a chance on a guy like Flowers for $1 million , although I doubt he'd make it through waivers. KW doesn't hate prospects THAT much.