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Mark could have held out for a no trade clause. He had a lawyer, Im sure that his lawyer advised him what a merger/integration clause means. I know what I tell my clients: "I dont care what he said, I dont care what he promised you, you see this clause right here, it says it doesnt matter."

I doubt its an American. Id actually think its going to be from a classic place like Spain, Italy or France. As much as the Church may want to bring in outsiders, right now they need to get their house in order and that starts in the European mainland.

OSU and Indiana fans can thank the basketball gods for this win. In most universes Michigan wins in regulation.

If they won on Brusts shot I would have understood rushing the court. But whatever its just kids wanting to have fun. (edit) Meaning Im not going to rant against storming the floor because its a lost cause and will only happen more.

Rushing the floor is lame. What the hell.

Wow so Bo Ryan didnt realize the foul count and now Evans is shooting fts.

I was literally typing that if you make a shot like Hardaway you deserve to win. Unbelievable.

OMGQ FOAFMOGAOLMGAG

I assume Michigan will call some sort of ball screen action with a big and burke. If I was Wisconsin id just switch and let Burke go 1-1 with the big, hopefully forcing a jump shot/ fade away. Ideally you get it under 12 seconds and tehns tart going for steals with 3 fouls to give.

Based on the last 2 offensive possessions Wisconsin really doesnt have anyone to blame but themselves. Its just stupid what they do in important moments some times.

Wisconsin is jsut getting beaten by Michigan on the screen. They need to just start switching and see what happens. Giving up way to many shots near the basket.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) Because he's 1/10th the man Mike Taylor is. Understanding must not be your strong suit. Just because I think a McDondalds Big Mac is better than a Whopper, doesnt mean that if a Big Mac costs $1million and a Whopper costs $1, that I will choose the Big Mac. Cost matters. Te'o is not worth a 1st round pick, because there are lots of LBs and you would be vasty overpaying for his hype. If you disagree with this, that is fine. But it has nothing to do with whether Mike Taylor is good bad or indifferent. The Mike Taylor comment was merely that I dislike Te'O in the first round so much, that I would prefer a guy that I do not even believe will be drafted, just because that way the Bears wont be wasting a 1st rounder. Disagree, agree. But the question was about how I would feel if the Bears drafted Te'o in the first, and I stand by my statement that I would not like it. Feel free to be in the other column of people who think Te'o is worth a first rounder.

It depends on how you grade out 1st round players. Te'o could be a serviceable starter, but with a first round pick, I would be hoping for upper end starter, potential pro bowl player. I just dont see that in Te'o. He could blow me away at the combine, but I am expecting some really bad numbers.

Yep that is all I was trying to get across. Im sure if I was an OSU fan, there would be a super productive linebacker who I would compare to Te'O. There are just tons of guys who make a lot of tackles in college, who just dont have the physical abilities to be an upper echelon NFL player.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 02:38 PM) I think Te'o's upside is a Zach Thomas type (and no they aren't the same size). Very sound tackler that will be a good player. I don't see him ever being an elite player at his position and I don't know if he has the athleticism required to play Mike in the cover 2 defense. Or at least not the version the Bears use. Exactly. He makes no sense with the Bears which is why the premise of "drafting Te'O" makes no sense. And if you are going to get a "very sound tackler" in the "Zach Thomas" mold you might as well go the route of Zach Thomas and get them in the later rounds. A different Badger is kind of the Zach Thomas, Chris Borland, who seems to be getting higher grades than Taylor. The problem is Im pretty sure Borland will get some sort of medical flag as his shoulders are messed up. But once again, I am just familiar with Wisconsin. Im sure if I watched the SEC more closely there would be numerous guys Id prefer over Te'O when you account for them being late picks. The Bears need to use their 1st pick on offense or on a cant miss stud on defense. It cant be a reach for Te'o. It just cant be.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) You said the Bears could pass on a guy like Te'o and get a guy like Taylor for free, because he probably won't be drafted. That is like saying you could pass on a certain WR in the first round, because there is a certain TE that will be undrafted. They aren't two players who should be compared. Not because of talent lever, but because they play different positions. As far as why I think Te'o could be a good player in the NFL. He has great size for a ILB. I think because of his size he can be a good pass rusher from the middle. He tackles well and has shown he can stop the run. I worry that he might not be great in coverage and has a hard time covering quicker players. I think he should be drafted in the late first round or early second round. I think Ogletree and Minter may be better ILB. I think the Bears should take a punter in the first round. Or long snapper. As for the first part, no it really wouldnt be. In my opinion Taylor or Te'O are going to be depth on the Bears. So it would be the difference between getting a WR in the 1st round who is severely over hyped or an undrafted WR, who had comparable stats. And Taylor played MLB in college (at least some downs) and a lot of LBs change position in the pros, so its not comparing 2 completely different positions. If Te'o is going to be starting for the Bears, they are in real trouble in my mind. I prefer Urlacher/ Willis types, as opposed to Dont'a Hightower/Brandon Spikes types. Its really early as there hasnt been a combine. But Im basing this on Te'o running a slower than 4.7. He just isnt fast, he may even be over 4.8. I just dont believe in him. There are plenty of other slow linebackers to pick from. This is about Te'o and why he is a terrible fit for the Bears.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 02:10 PM) 225 and 255. Te'o is 30 pounds heavier. That is a lot. They play different positions. Okay Te'o is worthy of a first round grade, your right. The Bears should draft Te'o. Its my opinion, I dont think Te'o is very good. Ive watched him play. He is underwhelming athletically like Mike Taylor. He has been extremely successful in college like Mike Taylor. He is not exactly the same as Mike Taylor, no 2 people are ever exactly the same. If you think Te'o is great, good. If you think the Bears should draft him in the first round, great. I dont think so. But we shall see. Why do you think Te'o is so good? (edit) I am not even sure what the argument here is. I merely said that I would prefer the Bears to take a flier on a cheap guy like Mike Taylor, as opposed to paying a heavy premium on Te'O. If you disagree with that fine, but I never once suggested that Taylor was worth of a high pick. I am merely suggesting that Te'O is overhyped.

You can only compare players to people you actually watch. I watch Wisconsin games, thus I compare players to people that I know. Or why I compare to Big 10 players as opposed to SEC/Pac. I just dont watch as many of those games, so I really have no personal knowledge. I could just make up comparisons, but that really makes no sense. Its not like Im pushing Mike Taylor, I think hes underwhelming athletically, which is what I think about Te'o.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 11:27 AM) I'm not talking about numbers. Numbers in college can be deceiving. I'm talking about size and the position they play. Mike Taylor is a smaller, quicker OLB in a 4-3 defense. T'eo is a bigger inside linebacker in a 3-4. Im not sure what you are referring to. Mike Taylor Height: 6-2 Weight: 225 Monti Te'o: Height: 6-2 Weight: 255 Ive watched Taylor play every game in Wisconsin, Ive watched Teo 20 times. This isnt about Taylor btw, its about why Te'o isnt worth a first round draft pick. Te'o should be head and shoulders better than a guy who may not even be drafted. Kyle, What does Wisconsin have to do with anything? I just happen to be familiar with Mike Taylor. This is about why Te'o is not a first round draft grade, unless you are giving him the ND hype bump. I just simply believe the Bears would be fools to draft Te'o in the first, when you could conceivably get a guy LIKE Mike Taylor, for free. There are just so many good lbs, it makes no sense to overdraft a bad one like Te'o.

Jenks, Keri Russel's father died in Stalingrad and her mother was part of the local party. Her origin story would make her very loyal to the USSR. That is why she is always implying that her husband will survive while she will not. She idolizes the martyrdom of her father at Stalingrad and wants to be a "hero" like him. You also have to believe that there is some threat against her family in the USSR.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 10:22 AM) Mike Taylor and Te'o are totally different players. I don't even think Taylor will be drafted. How are they totally different players? http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/796/1019456/index.html Taylor 123 tackles, 3 sacks. TFL 15, 4 passes broken up Te'O 113 tackles, 1.5 sacks. TFL 5.5, 7 int, 4 passes broken up Now granted Te'O had 7 ints this year to Taylor's 0. But over their career Taylor has had 5 and Te'o 7. I see both of them as underwhelming athletes who have had great production at the college level. If Taylor doesnt get drafted, it would show how insane it is to draft Te'o in the 1st or 2nd. Taylor was 1st team Big10, but there are just so many ultra talented lbs. Te'O is hype.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 07:44 AM) Just for the sake of comparison, Urlacher had a 4.59 40 at the combine. 4.59 would be almost a tenth of a second faster than the fastest time ever posted for Te'o. Here is Urlacher: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=olb Here is Te'O http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=ILB Notice that I was using Te'os best listed time, they actually have him at 4.7. Further Urlacher's best 40 was 4.5 flat QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 09:48 AM) Urlacher wasn't a physical specimen or a guy who ran a 4.4, he came out as a smart player who finished his tackle. Hating on Teo has become a national past-time, but he has the football smarts (and those only) to captain an NFL defense. That said, there's bigger fish to fry in the first round than MLB, but he'd fit in there nicely. Perhaps you are misremembering. Urlacher was a safety who was fast enough to return kicks in college. He was drafted on the belief that his extreme athletic abilities would translate to linebacker. Prior to NFL I do not believe he had actually played MLB, which is why many projected him as an OLB. Hence draft scouts ranking of him as OLB not MLB. He is about the exact opposite of Te'O. And this isnt because of anything Te'O did off the field. Ive watched him play, I just dont think he is worth a first round pick. And I think that after the pro day/combine, most draft experts will be in agreement with me. Shack, Your version is the correct version.

Who knows what will happen Saturday. Its an early start time so you get some odd results.

Its going to be a strange year. But if Illinois is in the top 7 of the Big 10, I think they make the tournament. If they jump Minnesota, they are absolutely in.

And even then I wouldnt take Teo in the first round. My guess is he does not run fast 40. Right now draft scout has his time between 4.65 and 4.85 If he is near higher end he may not even be a 2nd round pick. All things being considered Id rather have Mike Taylor from Wisconsin, who will run a very similar 40 time, who was one of the top Big10 lbs and who you wont have to pay a stupid premium for because he wasnt a Heisman finalist.