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QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 03:33 PM) I wonder how the deal is structured.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 3 years, 21 million dollars. this deal is insane. very "un A's-like"

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t=.jsp&c_id=mlb So Mota was added to the deal for Garcia. I like this trade a whole lot, wow.

Bill Mueller won't sign with the White Sox unless he's given the starting job outright, forget this dh/back-up third baseman nonsense.

You can't build Championship teams with your heart. Kenny Williams knows that. Bill Mueller will be contacted.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) Is he a butcher there? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He can play the position sparingly, but is in no way a full time second baseman. Whether it's his back or his knees that act up when he plays second, the possibility of playing him at second and Youk at third was mentioned for months while Bellhorn struggled; there's a reason that speculation never came true.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:51 AM) Never said he was a butcher at 3rd but Joe is significantly better. Add that to the fact that Joe has more power and might have found his swing in the playoffs...I'll take me chances with Crede. I'm a big Mueller fan too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Joe's found his swing in streaks like the one he put on this postseason on a few occassions. I am with southside on this one.

Bill Mueller is not a second baseman.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 06:06 PM) LOL, what does your Marlins intern buddy have to say about this? Doesnt sound like your typical Miami Post retraction now, does it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. I emailed him and am waiting for his response. In the meantime, i'm celebrating or atleast planning to when it becomes official.

Red Sox and "mystery" team take over lead: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ESPNSports/story?id=1334519

my sandwhich: turkey breast, ham, roast beef, honey mustard, lettuce, tomato, carrotts, gardinara, jalapenos, banana peppers, cucumbers, green peppers, olive oil, vinegar, pepper on wheat. i always get looks because the sandwhich wont close, but its the only way to fill me up considering they put no meat on it.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 03:10 PM) Steroids made my penis bigger. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that too

The Positive Effects of testosterone on the Heart by Doug Kalman MS, RD Steroids will cause your kidneys to implode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon. We read it on the Internet and saw an after school special about it, so it must be true, right? Actually, the more you learn about steroids, the more you come to realize that, like all drugs, there's a difference between their intelligent use and outright abuse. In this article, Doug Kalman takes a look at the effects of testosterone on the heart. What he found may surprise you. Over the years we've all heard the repeated mantra that anabolic steroids are bad for the heart. Some physicians will tell you that gear raises your risk of heart disease by lowering your good cholesterol (HDL) and raising your bad cholesterol (LDL). In fact, as some docs will tell you, steroids are known to even induce cardiac hypertrophy (enlargement of the heart). And since you can't flex your heart in an effort to woo women, who'd want that? But, as in every story, there's more than one side. In fact, let it be said, the dangers of steroids are overstated and, hold onto your seats, may even be good for the heart. Let's examine some of the scientific studies on the positive effects of testosterone on the heart. What are the cardiovascular effects of steroids? Cardiologists at the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Australia recruited both juicing and non-juicing bodybuilders for a study. Each bodybuilder had various aspects of the heart measured (carotid intima-media thickness, arterial reactivity, left ventricular dimensions, etc.). These measurements indicate whether bodybuilding, steroid usage or both affect the function, size, shape and activity of the heart. The doctors found some obvious and not so obvious results. Predictably, those bodybuilders who used steroids were physically stronger than those who didn't. What was surprising was that the use of steroids was not found to cause any significant changes or abnormalities of arterial structure or function. In essence, when the bodybuilders (both groups) were compared with sedentary controls, any changes in heart function were common to bodybuilders. The take home message from this study is that bodybuilding itself can alter (not impair) arterial structure/function and that steroids do not appear to impair cardiac function. (1) Does MRFIT need a T boost? A famous cardiac study was published about 10 years ago. It soon became on ongoing study known as the Multiple Risk Factor Intervention Trial (MRFIT). The present study examined changes in testosterone over 13 years in 66 men aged 41 to 61 years. The researchers determined if changes in total testosterone are related to cardiovascular disease risk factors. The average testosterone levels at the beginning of the study were 751 ng/dl and decreased by 41 ng/dl. Men who smoked or exhibited Type A behavior were found to have even greater decreases in T levels. The change in testosterone was also associated with an increase in triglyceride levels and a decrease in the good cholesterol (HDL). The authors concluded that decreases in testosterone levels as observed in men over time are associated with unfavorable heart disease risk. (2) Sounds to me like a good reason to get T support/replacement therapy in the middle age years! In a similar study, researchers in Poland examined if testosterone replacement therapy in aging men positively effected heart disease risk factors. Twenty-two men with low T levels received 200 mg of testosterone enanthate every other week for one year. Throughout treatment, Testosterone, estradiol, total cholesterol, HDL and LDL were measured. The researchers determined that T replacement returned both testosterone and estradiol levels back to normal and acceptable levels. They also found that T replacement lowered cholesterol and LDL (the bad cholesterol) without altering HDL (the good cholesterol). Furthermore, there was no change in prostate function or size. The take home message from this study is that T replacement doesn't appear to raise heart disease risk and it may actually lower your risk. (3) It appears that more physicians should be prescribing low dose testosterone to middle age and aging men for both libido, muscle tone and for cardiac reasons. What about younger men? It's been long established that men have a higher risk of heart disease. One of the risk factors implicated is Testosterone. Reportedly, the recreational use of testosterone can alter lipoprotein levels and, in fact, case reports exist describing bodybuilders who've abused steroids and have experienced heart disease or even sudden death. But the question remains, is the causal association one of truth or just an association? To answer this, researchers at the University of North Texas recruited twelve competitive bodybuilders for a comprehensive evaluation of the cardiovascular effects of steroids. Six heavyweight steroid-using bodybuilders were compared with six heavyweight drug-free bodybuilders. As expected, the heavy steroid users had lower total cholesterol and HDL levels as compared to the drug-free athletes. What was unexpected was that the steroid users also had significantly lower LDL (the bad cholesterol) and triglyceride levels as compared to the non-steroid users. In addition, the juicers also had lower apolipoprotein B levels (a marker for heart disease risk). Thus, the authors concluded that androgens do not appear to raise the risk of cardiovascular disease. (4) The take home message from this study is that the negative cardiac side effects of steroids are most likely overstated. In a little more progressive study, researchers at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Boogie Down Bronx (the BDB to those in the know) examined testosterone as a possible therapy for cardiovascular disease. (5) The researchers note that T can be given in oral, injectable, pellet and transdermal delivery forms. It's noted that injections of testosterone (100 to 200 mg every two weeks) in men with low levels of T will decrease total cholesterol and LDL while raising the HDL. In fact, testosterone therapy has been found to have antianginal effects (reduces chest pain). Low levels of testosterone are also correlated with high blood pressure, specifically high systolic pressure. The researchers determined that returning T levels back to normal and even high-normal levels have positive cardiovascular effects and should be considered as an adjunctive treatment for maintaining muscle mass when someone has congestive heart failure. Putting it all together Strong research demonstrates that the risks of negative cardiovascular effects of steroids are overstated. In fact, a recent paper published in the Canadian Journal of Applied Physiology questioned the whole risk of using steroids. (6) Joey Antonio, Ph.D. and Chris Street MS, CSCS published strong data showing that the risks of steroid use are largely exaggerated, much like scare tactics used by your parents while you were a kid. Of course, it goes unsaid that abuse of anything will lead to unwanted consequences. We know that as we age, circulating testosterone levels naturally decrease. For most people the testosterone decrease goes from high-normal to mid to low normal. Data shows that there's an inverse relationship between T levels and blood pressure as well as abdominal obesity (that paunch we see on so many middle age males). testosterone replacement lowers abdominal obesity and restores testosterone back to normal levels. Restored testosterone is correlated with better mood, better muscle tone, stronger sex drive, lower cardiovascular disease risks, stronger bones and better memory. It's important to note that while conservative use gives a pronounced positive health benefit, higher doses may not necessarily lead to further health benefits. What to do If you see your body composition changing (your gut starts looking like your Uncle Lester's), your strength or muscle tone diminishing despite your hard training and good diet, and your sex drive not matching up to TC's columns, have your testosterone levels checked. The acceptable normal range for testosterone to physicians is 300 mg/dl to 1100 mg/dl. Yes, that's a pretty wide range. In the clinic, we see people with the complaints consistent with "andropause" (a term for male menopause) and/or increased cardiovascular risk having testosterone levels between 300 mg/dl and 550 mg/dl. Bringing it up to the mid to high-normal level is what gives the health and "youthful" benefits. Traditionally 200 mg/dl of supplemental testosterone given every one to two weeks improves body composition, lowers total cholesterol and LDL, while raising HDL. It appears that supplemental T is a healthier and safer way to go than many of the drugs used to treat poor lipid profiles. The data presented in this article applies for males over 35, not those who are 18. If you think that you can benefit from testosterone therapy look for physicians who market themselves as "anti-aging" or "longevity physicians" as well as the more progressive endocrinologists or cardiologists. Long story short, used intelligently, testosterone is good medicine! About the author: Douglas S. Kalman MS, RD is a Director for Miami Research Associates (MiamiResearch.com) a leading pharmaceutical and nutrition research organization in Miami, Florida. Doug is also a national spokesperson for the American College of Sports Medicine and according to his latest test has high T levels. Doug can be reached at [email protected]. References: 1) Sader MA, Griffiths KA, McCredie RJ, et al. Androgenic anabolic steroids and arterial structure and function in male bodybuilders. J Am Coll Cardiol 2001;37(1):224-230. 2) Zmuda JM, Cauley JA, Kriska A, et al. Longitudinal relation between endogenous testosterone and cardiovascular disease risk factors in middle aged men. A 13 year follow-up of former Multiple Risk Factor Intervention Trial participants. Am J Epidemiol 1997;146(:609-617. 3) Zgliczynski S, Ossowski M, Slowinska-Srednicka J, et al. Effect of testosterone replacement therapy on lipids and lipoproteins in hypogonadal and elderly men. Atherosclerosis 1996;121(1):35-43. 4) Diekerman RD, McConathy WJ, Zachariah NY. Testosterone, sex hormone-binding globulin, lipoproteins and vascular disease risk. J Cardiovasc Risk 1997;4(5-6):363-366. 5) Shapiro J, Christiana J, Frishman WH. testosterone and other anabolic steroids as cardiovascular drugs. Am J Ther 1999;6(3):167-174. 6) Antonio J, Street C. Androgen use by athletes: A reevaluation of the health risks. Can J Appl Physiol 1996;21(6):421-440.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) Until they prove anything in the majors, it's too hard to tell. A top 20-25 pitcher in baseball is extremly high praise. I don't even think McCarthy will reach that status, and he's already shown he can do well in the majors. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> my dads best freind is Ace Adams, pitching coach for the Red Sox affiliate Wilmington Blue Rocks, and he seems to believe that he's the best pitcher he's ever coached slash seen and that there really is no ceiling for him. of course the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you're right that without any major league service time its too hard to tell.

Lester is going to be a top 20-25 pitcher in baseball, I feel. A perennial 15-20 game winner.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) Redandwhite...in no way is this directed at you. However, which trade rumor wouldn't be complete without the Yankees or Red Sox being involved. Next thing you know, we'll hear the Cubs are involved also! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the offer reported there by the Red Sox is better than the one from Texas.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2229919 Right now, the two teams hottest on Beckett are Texas and Boston. The Rangers would deal third baseman Hank Blalock, but thus far have balked at dealing either of their two prize pitchers, John Danks or Thomas Diamond. From the Red Sox, the Marlins want shortstop Hanley Ramirez and a young pitcher, either Jon Lester or Anibel Sanchez. *** well im excited.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) Thanks for the info. Like I say, the deal would stink from the Marlins perspective. It would be a sheer salary dump (they would get talent) but the key is they get Lowell's contract off the books, but also give up Beckett. They could than swing Blalock for more prospects and cut more payroll. Thats if there is truth to the Fish wanting to cut there payroll in half. If thats the case, I could definately see some "fire" to this deal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> its certainly interesting, jas, but i can't imagine if they are truly willing to give up Beckett for Lowell that some team wouldn't take him. Sure he's overpaid, but when you have a chance to get a cornerstone of your franchise for the next ten years, you take on that contract. if some team was willing, they could completely revamp there pitching staff. Imagine if some team was willing to do so and acquired Beckett, Vazquez, and Pavano. That would be interesting.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) We aren't speculating. Its the report going around throughout the media. It sounds like its got a lot of backing too and there are some baseball people quoting that its looking like a likely deal. That said, its not a done deal. Even if the Fish deal for Blalock, am I the only one that wouldn't be shocked to see him moved again. Florida isn't going to want him, I assume he's due a pretty big raise/long term deal and if he is already signed to a long term deal I'm guessing they won't want to pay him. If they trade Beckett for a bat they are idiots. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> my freind's take who is interning with the Marlins as we speak and has been for the last year:

you guys are absolutely nuts if you think the Marlins are going to trade Beckett with two more years left of arbitration. I don't buy any of this garbage. The Marlins are looking to cut payroll, but aren't going to dump everyone not named Cabrera or Willis to do so.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 11:46 PM) How ironic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it's hard to have a sense of humor with you when everything you say in my regards is negative.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 11:44 PM) Oh hell. That was a "tongue in cheek" type remark. In fact, in a later post I agreed with someone that it didn't really make any sense. Get. Real. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> whatever kind of remark it was, it seems to be a repetitive thing with you.

my humps is the worst song i've ever heard, but its also the catchiest song i've ever heard.. i don't mind it.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) Maybe if your a 10 year old and calling people gay is funny? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> get a sense of humor, gay-rod.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) IN 2000 he won though. Giambi cheated, so he really doesnt count. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A-Rod is gay.. does that count?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) EH, it counts for a little. Dont forget I went to grad school <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i respect you, i really do. EDIT: even if you dont feel the same way.