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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) Whiney ass? Seriously, why don't you think about taking a break? You're not going to win very many conversations here right now. Ya'll had a good run, Chris Berman is a sack of s*** who was undoubtedly biased and you're sticking up for s*** that is pretty blatently and obviously wrong. Furthermore, hopefully, we have some even better times ahead of us. I personally don't mind you, but a lot of others do. In closing, to quote a phrase: Pathetic. So please grab some bench for a while, hmm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not whining if thats what is sounds like. I think for a team that plays as hard as they do, to be in the position there in, some people on this board are overly pathetic with there actions and therefore ridiculous. Again, I never said Chris Berman wasn't bias, so I think you need to go back and read the posts I made in this thread with an open mind, as if somebody else had written it, and we're all set. I don't think its necessary whatsoever for me to take a break, because I don't think i've done anything wrong. If I do do something wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, and take a break, but until then I'll continue to post respectfully as i've done for the last two years.

...and Kapko, I apologize for accusing you. I should have known who it was, but without the thing at the bottom, it made it difficult. again, I apologize.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) I did after the 10,000 complaints we got about him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Pathetic.

In Damon's defense, it should be noted, that the entire second half he was playing injured aswell.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) yea, red and RED, it's pretty pathetic when even the Sawks fans noticed it. Bull s***, he wasn't biased. Konerko getting the last out... "And the RED SOX season is over..." --- not that the "White Sox win the series"... like 99% of other boradcasters do, homer or not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please, buddy. go back and read my posts... in there you will find that I never once said he wasn't biased. Keep making jabs, or you can suspend me for no reason again..

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 06:08 AM) He tried to get out of the way... no intention on stepping on his back. Manny ramirez's intention after every homerun is being a grade A jackass. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm guessing you've verified with A.J. on this one? Either way, the replay made it look intentional, and Hawk and DJ certainly thought it was.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 06:07 AM) Watch the video clips at WhiteSox.com again. Listen to how Berman gets all excited and jacked up for Ortiz and Manny's homeruns. Then listen to his reaction to Konerko's homerun and Pierzynski and Uribe's doubles. Also, any time the Red Sox got a runner on base it was, "HERE COME THE RED SOX!!!" Berman is a tool and a shill and he damn sure wasn't rooting for the White Sox. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not saying he wasn't in favor of the Red Sox, he's a Red Sox fan, thats natural. However, I just don't think it was nearly as dramatic as people make it out to be. Whatever.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 06:01 AM) you need to relax. Have a smoke. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm relaxed, just joking around.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 06:01 AM) Try both. I think taking your batting gloves off at home plate may be one of the most classless things a ballplayer can do. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See, I just don't understand the double standard here. I absolutely loved Pierzynski a couple weeks ago stepping on Boone as he crossed third, but was it classy? absolutely not. I guess when its someone you like, you're not going to mind him doing it.

QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:58 AM) Manny is still posing at home plate after his home run <{POST_SNAPBACK}> which one?

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:41 AM) I did the postgame show and produced it. The refs weren't good at all but New Trier's strategy was very questionable. It was obvious that we couldn't run the ball because of the great defense of Maine South and we kept running. Also almost every pass was a bomb instead of short passes to set up the long ones. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> New Trier couldn't run the ball because Duda couldn't complete a pass. That's not wrong strategy, that's not executing.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:37 AM) you're right. they're not trash. they're golfing! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why does everybody assume that players golf in the offseason? I can't imagine Manny Ramirez out driving golf balls..

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:45 AM) Can't mute the TV. I have to beable to hear the crowd in order to get the full feel for the game and I can't turn on the radio because there's a 10 second delay between ESPN's HD feed and 1000's radio broadcast, I'm stuck listening to Berman. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That brings up another point, ha. Why does HD have to have such a delay? It's so frustrating at times, almost moreso than just having your tv on non-hd, atleast when you're on the phone with your dad and he's showing a reaction before anything happens...

I disagree with making Hernandez the set-up man, and not really for the reasons given, but for other reasons. Diagnose the bases loaded, no out situation for a second. He couldn't find the strike zone with his breaking ball, and his fastball was topping out at 91 and basically staying at 90 consistently. Varitek just simply helped him in the first at-bat. The second out was made by a determined Graffanino who fouled off three breaking balls in a row that didn't touch the plate before popping up on the infield, and Damon did nothing either. After that inning of course he seemed to settle down, but I would much rather see him in the long relief role, because I tend to think it takes him a little while to get that arm loose, and while he succeeded greatly today, odds are, in my opinion of course, that the situation could be different in the ALCS.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:40 AM) When you're watching a game intensly it kind of sucks to constantly hear the announcer cheer for the other team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Red Sox games on FOX where Buck and McCarver are announcing, I utilize the mute button. It's a great tool. I can definitly see where youre coming from.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tony, hows it going buddy? Congratulations.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:37 AM) I figured that you were gone with the wind, bruh. Why are you still here? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You still have yet to make one iota of sense.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:35 AM) Are you serious? Berman was all over the Red Sox's nuts this series, ESPECIALLY game 3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No announcer is going to be completely unbias. While I think ESPN did a poor job in assigning the Berman group to the Red Sox game, I think he did an excellent job of calling the game down the middle. ...and in all honesty, why on earth does it matter? Why be all nutty over how some loser was more in favor of the Red Sox than the White Sox when you're on your way to the ALCS.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:31 AM) Without redandwhite around to bless us with his intelligent baseball thoughts, this place just won't be the same. Oh well. Life goes on, I guess. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Explain, what are you talking about?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:34 AM) Did you listen to the broadcast? This is a serious question because as of right now I don't think you did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I watched every out of this series

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:31 AM) His Boston connection was glaring in the 3rd game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...because at the end of the game he said sometihng along the lines of "and the Red Sox will not repeat this season." They were the World Series Champions, it seems to apply here.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:29 AM) How about Mueller, Bellhorn, and Clement <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Joking aside, all three are far from trash.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:26 AM) Why is that? Berman was openly rooting for the Red Sox, thats pretty s***ty on a national telecast. This is where you are supposed to vent. And it isnt as if we are the only people that noticed. Above this post is a small sample of Bermans quotes in Ed Shermans article. The only thing classless was Berman. And this is coming from someone who really used to enjoy Berman. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Berman's Boston connection really didn't show whatsoever in this series. He just, as mentioned earlier in this thread, didn't do his homework on the White Sox very well.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:18 AM) That won't surprise me, it seems like you always see a few players from the Yanks on the Red Sox and vice versa. They just like to pick up each others dump, not that Damon is Bostons dump but you know what I mean. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know about dump, but some Yankees become Red Sox, and some Red Sox become Yankees, just as some White Sox players become Indians or Royals or whatever it may be. The team that picks up the Red Sox trash would be the Cubs. One year it was Damon Buford, Darren Lewis, Troy O'leary, Ron Mahay... who am I forgetting. Two more, ah go look it up on baseball reference if your interested.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 05:13 AM) Offensively, maybe. He still has a noodle-arm. But I agree that he is as good as gone from the Red Sox. Watch the Yankees sign him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No doubt about his noodle-arm, he still plays a fearless defense in center similar to Aaron Rowand, and his offensive ability speaks for itself. The Yankees signing him? Definite possibility, he'll go anywhere that pays him. Summer Sports Illustrated article on Damon: