redandwhite

Some good times on this day in the past. Thanks guys.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Oct 4, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) redandwhite, it'd probably be best for everyone if you took a walk for about a week. We don't take kindly to you Tea-partiers round these parts! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No need.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) Dude what is your problem? Is there really a need to repeatedly bump something just because someone isn't on line to read it? But noooooooo you don't look for trouble, it just miraculously happens to find you doesn't it? Crap like that is exactly why no one buys this whole poor little guy who gets picked on because he is different BS. And since you just had to pee yourself waiting in antipaction for an answer here it is. Basically you warped the arguement. I never said that Cleveland didn't have an offense outside of Hafner. You pulled that one out of your ass looking to inflame the arguement like usual. What I said was that Boston has a second offensive superstar in their line up, where as Cleveland does not. I would have to say that Manny Ramirez provides a little more protection than does Victor Martinez, considering that the differences between Ramirez and Martinez power numbers probably could have been the #3 hitter for the White Sox, I don't think there is much of an arguement there... If you would like to look at the teams offensive numbers though, I think you will lose out there as well anyway. The Red Sox scored 900 runs to the Indians 789, if you want to look at the final output of any offense. Other than that Boston hit 8 points higher, was 21 points higher in OBP, and was 22 points higher in OPS. The only big categories Cleveland won was SLG by one point, and they hit 9 more HRs in scoring those 111 less runs. There isn't much of an arguement that Cleveland has a better or even equal offense to Boston at all. And finally this is a friendly warning. If you are going to keep getting into arguements with everyone in sight on here, you aren't going to last here. Take that FWIW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wasn't referring to solely you there, Jack. Everyone who seems to be for Hafner keeps on saying how the Indians have nobody outside of Hafner, and that is just ridiculous. You're point is... well not well taken, because really you showed me nothing I didn't already know. I guess we'll just wait and see what the voters think in a month.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 4, 2005 -> 03:50 AM) Finally something we all can agree on. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't use green. If you need verification, just ask.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) Why is it all of a sudden that the Indians have no one offensively outside of Hafner? They were one of the most sound offensive teams in baseball this season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> bump again.

Theres the east coast bias for ya... way to go guys. haha.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Oct 4, 2005 -> 02:22 AM) No need to thank me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 4, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) Since we don't have a true, full time bawston sawks troll, REDandwhite will have to do. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That hurts, I'm the best poster on this board.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> way to offer some helpful insight. 1,262 s***ty posts and counting.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) Why is it all of a sudden that the Indians have no one offensively outside of Hafner? They were one of the most sound offensive teams in baseball this season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bump. This really fascinates me.

Hitler.. is that you? Coming to conclusions about an entire fan base, hell one of the biggest fan bases in the country, because of two people who you interact with occcassionally. That seems real smart. As for the movie, I have never seen it, and will never see it. Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore are two of my least favorite people in the world for what they have done, I hate the producers, the writers, everyone who took part in that film. God what I would do to kick Jimmy Fallon in the nuts.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Any chance you could change your screen name to redandred for the next week? That way there's no confusion that we have a troll on board. We'll let you change it back after this series. Maybe I kid because I care <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For you, I'll consider it.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Keep Dreaming. This is THE Tony Graffanino. For the sheer fact that he gets to play with that awesome and dominant franchise that is the Red Sox: Tony G>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Insert White Sox player here) You're blind to think otherwise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hands down, its official. You have the worst jokes slash sense of humor on soxtalk.

Why is it all of a sudden that the Indians have no one offensively outside of Hafner? They were one of the most sound offensive teams in baseball this season.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:36 PM) Clarification...did you just say Tony G would be the Sox best hitter? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He would be the White Sox "batting champion" is what I was referring to.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Seriously, where the hell do you think he would play? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Possibly DH as qwert suggested, but there is no way that the "best hitter" on your team doesn't start for you when you're a team in diar need of some offense.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 11:19 PM) 2B...nope SS...can't replace Juan's glove...nope 3B...crede has more power, can't replace glove...nope <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha, I needed that. Thanks.

There is no way that Graffanino wouldn't start on the White Sox. He would have the second highest on base percentage, the highest batting average without question, and a slugging percentage good for 3rd or 4th on the team. They would find a spot for him, there is just no way.

There is just no way.

He sucked before he hit Boston? The guy is batting .310 with .370 on base percentage. I'm just saying the White Sox would find a place for him to start, not necessarily at second. At third perhaps.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) He's still Tony G, a guy who wouldn't even start on the Sox. That says something right there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tony G would be a starter on the White Sox, without question.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) A-rod and Showalter hate each other. That is what this is really about <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Regardless Slappy is the one completely at fault. He proves day in and day out that he is the biggest douchebag in sports. I am so glad he didn't come to the Red Sox.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 09:54 PM) Yeah, after the disaster that nearly befell the Bosox pitching staff in the playoffs last year when Schilling went down and Wakefield had to give up a start in order to end that 17 run Yankee explosion game, and then where Wakefield ended up starting game 7 on like 2 days rest, I'd have figured the Red Sox would carry at least 11, if not 12. Francona a few days ago actually was doing La-Russa style "1 pitcher per batter" substitutions in some late innings. If he's carrying only 10, he really can't afford to do that...his bullpen will wind up having only Arroyo if the game goes extras. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Machado can play both the outfield and infield, obviously one back-up outfielder is needed, but its hard to imagine leaving Gonzalez, Hansen, Delcarmen etc. off the roster. I guess that shows what the Red Sox think of the White Sox offense, and at this point rightfully so.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2005 -> 09:52 PM) Listen man. You may LOVE the Red Sox. But the fact is, they are the popular choice. I have been a fan of a team that is popular only once. The Chicago Bulls in the 1990's were arguably one of the most popular teams of all time in any sport. Obviously growing up a fan when they were terrible, I was a true fan. Many people jumped on the bandwagon when they were good, and it was something that was slightly annoying. But you still have to be honest with yourself and realize that your team will now get better coverage and treatment by the media. Its something you have to deal with, real fan or not. The White Sox are not one of these teams, and may never be. And thats ok with me. But it doesnt change the fact that the Red Sox and Yankees, right now, are a media circus. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't understand what you're getting at? Do you think I'm a bandwagon Red Sox fan? I just honestly have no idea where you're taking this argument and if you think I'm a bandwagon Red Sox fan, my biography will be on newstands next week.