GreatScott82

The first thing that needs to be addressed is the coaching staff/ upper management. Something needs to happen. We can't have this KW vs Ozzie crap anymore. I'm done with it.

I'm guessing Ozzie will be retained for the final year of his deal and KW will be moved up as Team President. Hahn has been over due for a promotion. I highly doubt Ozzie will get extended since they haven't made the playoffs in 3 seasons. This has by far been Ozzie's worst year managing. However, KW has been pretty bad at evaluating and bringing in players the last 2-3 years, creating this mess we currently have. KW has been known for his risk taking maneauvers but the Peavy trade has been a bust, the Rios waiver claim has been a financial nightmare and Dunn is absolutely horrible in the AL. The three of those guys combined will make $40 million next year. It pains me that we lost Gio Gonzalez for Swisher who we later traded for nothing. It pains me that we lost Dan Hudson for Edwin Jackson who in return got us Zach Stewart (jury still out, but Hudson appears much better)

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 11, 2011 -> 08:33 AM) The Sox have to go 8-2 the next ten. Win tonight, and come home and go 7-2 like a championship team does at home. If the Sox do that, then they've earned their way back into the race. If the Sox go 8-2 over the next time and go 7-2 at home they will likely be in first place. Gotta love the AL Central.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) If we became buyers. I wonder who Kenny will go after They don't really have the means to be buyers this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) The teams record has nothing to with what Q has done this year. Yep. CQ & PK are the main reasons we are not 10-15 games below .500 right now. The reason we are 1 game under is because Rios and Dunn took major dumps this season when we counted on them to be major run producers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) We really don't need to get MLB ready pitching back from ATL. We've got a 7 man bullpen that just got an upgrade and 5 guys who are starting, 4 of whom are performing well, 3 of whom will give you 7 innings almost every time out. Very true. But with the uncertainty of Peavy's health, it is always good to have a little bit of insurance and even more depth. I wonder if KW demands a return package including Brandon Beachy?

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) probably already been posted, it's not a brand new tweet... just been skimming the beatwriters/bloggers twitter accounts http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/sta...386194459459584 "The trouble with trading Quentin is that it would signify they're giving up" He thinks that if we trade CQ, it's a give up/rebuild trade.. I'm sure most people would think that. Especially since he is our hottest hitter. However, the AL Central is very winable regardless if we have TCQ or not. If "Tank" is ready for full time at the big league level and we get MLB ready pitching in return from ATL- then you never know!

Oh and if we some how make the playoffs (God willing). My rotation would be: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks and Peavy (for 5 innings) with Humber being the emergency back up. Floyd seems to be getting back on track and if he gets hot now, we are in great shape!

QUOTE (since56 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) playoffs?!?!?? What the hell? Who starts next in Jackson's spot and then who starts when Peavy goes back on the dl? Actually the playoffs isn't that far of a reach. We have been mediocre at best all year long and we are only 3.5 games back. We are 5-2 vs NY and Boston this year thusfar and our pitching has been pretty solid all season. If some how, some way they go on a 9-10 game winning streak, the division is all for the taking. We could have easily swept Detroit and it'll be interesting to see how they do vs Boston and New York. At first I wanted them to sell high and trade TCQ. But now I just want them to ride this thing out and see where it takes them. TCQ has been one of our only sources of offense since the ASB. If anything, his value will still be high in the offseason, so KW can wheel and deal then.

Frasor has nice #'s. His strike out #s are up there as well. This dude seems pretty darn effective. And Rios is benched. Hmmmm maybe this is a good deal for uS! Lets just hope Humber can continue to pick up where he left off in the first half. I'm suprisingly more optimistic than i thought i'd be. **KW Tape will be played on the SCORE in 2 mins.**

Rios to be benched for not just today but a long period of time according to the SCORE.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Where? David Shuster just mentioned that on the SCORE. He will play the tape in about 15 mins

KW interview will happen in 10 mins to explain deal.

I would have done the Rasmus for Ejax and Thorton for sure. But since Sale will be inserted in the rotation next year, we would still need that lefty set up man. This turned out to be a pure salary dump on our part. JR wants to shed some salary so that is what is happening right now. I wouldn't be suprised to see Quentin go next. Hopefully the return package will be a bit higher on that one!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:11 AM) That's the only wat this makes sense. So Toronto is getting Rasmus and not us? We just the services of a reliever for a season and a half and an unknown prospect?

If this deal is true than i REALLY hate that Hudson deal. Kenny really dropped the ball on that deal. I'm a huge KW supporter but he really needs to start being more patient with our young pitching prospects. That Swisher for Gio Gonzalez deal still hurts me. Can you imagine a young starting rotation of Floyd, Danks, Gonzalez, Hudson, and Sale going into the future?

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:46 AM) I sure as hell hope that the bolded isn't even a consideration. We needed to be creative this year with Peavy's condition, but doing this again next year would be nuts, IMO. We have Peavy under contract for next year too. If we had to protect his health this year, what makes you believe we shouldn't protect it next year? He has done nothing to prove to us that he can go a full season of being healthy.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) The problem there is there isn't much pitching on the open market. At least 5 teams have been linked to the Cardinals and Rasmus, the Rays are hot after him too. I trust that scouting department. Me too! Lets bring in Colby!

This trade makes a TON of sense for the Sox. It free ups some cap space, we get a guy who can potentially be an all star and it allows us to make other deals. For instance- trading TCQ for Beachy. Getting rid of TCQ will definitley hurt but adding a very young starter to our rotation makes a ton of sense for the future. We also have Viciedo waiting in the wings. With Buerhle and Jackson off the books after the 2011 season- we would only have Peavy, Danks, Floyd and Humber locked in for 2012. Adding a young & cheap Beachy to that rotation would be just what the doctor ordered. Also, all signs point to Sale being added to the rotation in 2012. So if the Sox wanted to continue the 6 man rotation in 2012- they would have the flexbility to continue to do that. Next year, Pierre also comes off the books. So that could potentially open up a door to move Viciedo to LF, shift Rios to RF and have Rasmus be the every day CF in 2012. Its time to start thinking about the future. We also can compete for a division title at the same time if everything goes right.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 08:34 AM) He came along with Gio in the Freddy Garcia to the Phils trade. Yeah that was a great trade. That was the same summer he traded BMac for Danks. One thing KW is really good at, is identifying starting pitching. Oh and you have to give crabby Coop some credit too.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 10:04 AM) What are they gonna do about it? If he wants to retire, he can retire. He won't retire. This season is a lost cause. But he'll be okay in 2012 in my opinion. Hopefully Pauly takes him under his wing and they train hard together in the offseason.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 03:20 PM) Save the fact that Adam Dunn has stated he doesn't pick up a baseball bat in the offseason. There's some merit there... I'd reckon picking up a baseball bat might assist in his not sucking so much. Thanks Steve! I usually don't state "ignorant responses with no merit" i've been on here for 7 years now- geeze loueeze!

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 03:15 PM) I love ignorant statements that have no merit. its not an ingorant statement, if im stating a known fact about his offseason preparations. sorry bud! If it worked before for the NL- awesome. Take this as a learning experience and actually work out and train in the offseason this year.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) At first I was like "YAY DUNN!" And now I'm like "BOO" Seriously, this signing has worked out absolutely horrendously so far. I just can't believe it. This guy was supposed to be Mr. Consistent. Hopefully next year he will actually spend the winter training for the season. What ever he did to prepare for the NL season (which is do nothing) obviously isn't cutting it here.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) Even IF we were to win the Comedy Central, this team is so full of holes and inconsistency that the first decent team we face will make quick work of us (think: Tampa in 2008). I'm not so sure about that. The Sox are 10-4 against the Indians, Rangers, Yankees and Red Sox thus far this year. The problem is- actually making the playoffs.