GoodAsGould

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) Would I be an idiot if I sat Peyton Manning (vs Houston) in favor of Matt Hasslebeck (vs St Louis) and Eli Manning (vs Minny)? Well Houstan is worse than both those teams so yes.

Why do people keep saying it will take a few bad games for you to not want Orton.... Among QB's that have been the starter for most of the season he has the lowest QB rating..... That means he is 30 of 30 in the NFL... well maybe 29 he is better than whoever is starting for San Fran.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) Disagree with it if you want, that part is just opinion. It's not even close to being the most important part of what I was saying, and what should be being discussed here. It is if you are looking at Rowands trade value.... and his value is no where near Well's...... and Marte isnt exactly a stud...

QUOTE(KWs OK for Me @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) I mean yea ESPN has its bias but this actually seemed to me to be a pretty decent poll done by national media. It asks most of the questions that we ask here. I mean ESPN has plenty to be made fun and ripped on, but this is not one of the oppurtunities to really do it. Just my opinion no one is questioning the poll... their questioning the 1 question... and if you think marte and viz our are 2 best relievers over Politte and Cotts than..

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) Rowand had a down year. I'm not saying Wells isn't a better power hitter than Rowand, but the discrepancy isn't all that great. That's where adding Marte in the deal comes in. That would more than cover the discrepancy trade value wise, and would likely send some $ to cover Abreu's contract to the Sox. How do you know Rowand had a down year. Other people can just look at it and say 2004 was a fluke year and 2005 was the real Rowand.

Anderson and Reed are totally different types of players though so its totally an unfair comparison. And Anderson always had more potential than Reed which is one of the reasons Reed was traded. Like someone else said Anderson hit 2 HR's in 1 game in Seattle...... So really its not even a question if Anderson will post a higher OPS than Reed. And he can be close to Rowand's OBP.... hell Reed was pretty close to Rowand if you look at their OBP.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 04:47 AM) Oh no, you forgot his magic ball said Crosby was moving to 2nd. Not 2 mention that the A's are against stealing and for high OBP's lol..

maybe you cant read?

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) Why respond to a post that is so blatantly stupid? Some of you guys...wow. I dont' even know why I bother sometimes. I try to do my best to get people to see the light..... but Im starting to believe White Sox Josh is the biggest Orton homer ever so im just going to stop now.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) Yeah, and Grossman looked just like Montana in those six games over three years. Remember those six games? I do remember those 6 games... well really only 5 since he got hurt in the KC one at the begininng.... and Grossman in those 5 games has thrown over 200 yards 3-4 times..... Orton has done that once. Not 2 mention he misses easy wide open targets... missing open recievers isnt part of the rookie mistakes its just being inaccurate. And Orton doesnt compare to Peyton. Peyton was on a much worse team overall... he threw for a helluva lot more yards and TD's.... and because of that he threw a lot of INT too but the Colts actually had an offense w/ him.

If he does go back to jail do you think the time he served for the wrong crime will count for the new sentence he gets.... for example it says he served what 18 years... so if he had a 20 year sentence would he only have to serve 2 of them?

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 07:09 AM) That's pretty cool for an 18 year old to be mayor, but it has to be so embarrasing for the person he beat out, unless they were his age. "He ousted the 51-year-old incumbent in a campaign costing $700 (£400) paid for by a summer job selling toffee apples."

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 07:01 AM) Get.Real. Also its not like the Twins will offer him more money than anyone else....

I thought Willis deserved it more but all is well.... and do you think part of Carpenter only having 5 losses is his team scored about 100 more runs than the Marlins... I guess you can say samething for Clemens but Willis has the wins to back up his performance.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 04:26 AM) Yeah trash, 7th Heaven was only the highest rated show in WB history. It sure did a hell of alot more than Arrested Development ever did for its network. And if anyone didn't know, it wasn't cancelled due to ratings. Than why? And I know 7th Heaven was pretty big back in the day but the last few seasons I think it lost a lot of its viewers....Its such a different show now than what it used to be its unbelievable kind of.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 06:22 AM) because of the Receiving yards he put up and how much he made. Grossman didnt even have Booker for most of his games... He had Booker his rookie season but not for last season and than Grossman hasnt even played this season. In his 2nd season Grossman was throwing 200 yards a game and that was with the number 1 WR being Terrell and a crapshoot offensive line. Not 2 mention our defense has improved and giving our O better field position. So with less Grossman did more.... Not 2 mention pocket presence.... Grossman knew what was happening around him much more so than Orton does and part of that is because Grossman while not playing all the games has been in the NFL and studies twice as hard as Orton does.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) I have a bigger problem that you cannot legally gamble/drink at 21... but you can fight and potentially be killed in war at 18. If your not in the army you dont really have a legit complaint about it. And since you have been posting on soxtalk everyday of the year I very much doubt you are in the army.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 06:11 AM) but how do you know this. It's not like Grossman had a bunch of hacks as Receivers. I think Booker was a Pro Bowler once and Terrell was a solid #2 Receiver. Booker was never a go to reciever though.... Muhsin is much better than Booker ever could be.... The best thing about Booker was he had those monster hands though lol he seemed to always own against Tampa. And Terrell would be a decent number 2 but he drops every single thing thrown to him and he got cut by us, the patriots, and is way low on the depth chart for the Broncos so I fail to see how you consider him a solid #2.

You are trying way 2 hard lol

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 05:04 AM) he is managing the game. Look the bears would still be running the ball 65% of the time with Grossman in there anyways. This was built as a run first team. The difference is all those balls that you see overthrown by Orton... especially when the reciever is open... Grossman would be able to complete. And if he gets hurt again Orton can come right back in... he could probably learn a thing or two by just watching a couple games. And I know ive said it b4 it would allow Orton to really focus on his mechanics too rather than worry about the next game 2 much.

What games are you watching?....... Orton isnt leading us anywhere

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Rather have peja than harrington. There is a very good chance that we could sign him. He is friends with skiles and has played under his over in europe. Him showing interest in the past certainly doesn't hurt either. I see us signing peja and a center like nazr... then i see us trading the first rounder and one of deng/nocioni ( most likely nocioni. A course you would Rather have Peja than Harrington... but Peja is going to demand a lot of money and im not sure if we would pay him all of it. Harrington and Mohammed are my realistic players to target.... as for Dbaho I have no interest in Cato at all.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 06:52 AM) I just saw the ESPN press conference with Dodgers GM, Steve Phillips, and he said they're considering moving Kent to first base. Didnt he say they didnt want to move Kent to 1st if they didnt have to

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 04:34 AM) If it was up to me the next time Grossman steps foot on the field will be in 06. You go with Orton and if he is injured Jeff Blake is your QB. You can't trust Grossman to stay healthy right now. You really are hilarious..... If the Bears cant trust Grossman to stay healthy why not just cut him? Because if they dont think he can stay healthy why is he even on the team why is he on the 53 man active roster?

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:00 AM) it's a pretty thin market. ben wallace stands out as an intriguing possibility, though. Arent AL Harrington and Nazr Muhammed both f/a's...... With the amount of cap space we have Id think we can bring them both to Chicago. Muhammed would give us the C we really need. And the Bulls have always seemed to have an interest in Harrington. Add that in with two 1st rounders one possibly top 5 with the Knicks sucking so much... although nothing is definite.