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QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) Your not in good shape if you have a bad back and its an injury risk. Im thaankful he got through this year. But getting through a max contract with that back? He said his back is better than it has ever felt doctors also have said it is perfectly fine. Curry's health problems out way chandlers. He always seems to have the flu and now an irregular heart beat is not a good sign.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) Contract year!!! Let's keep bashing Eddy's work ethic and desire even though he did lose the weight and has had a good year... I agree, he did have a good year offensively.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) has currys game improved or gotten worse? It has improved. I am confident it will continue to improve. He will get more rebounds because he and scott skiles said so. I use facts of what was actually said and then you say smart ass things all the time. It is not funny by the way.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) Tyson will bulk up cause skiles said so ? ok so eddy will stay in shape since skiles said so. argument over. If you would have realized i said ''him'' ( meaning chandler).

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) Being riddled with injuries is a good thing? I have no sympathy for players who get injured often... Well one thing in common with eddy and chandler is that they have both had problems you don't want any young person in their twenties to go through.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:29 PM) No but as a true nba fan (since you get the package) you should know players are not even in their prime at that age and get Better. i.e O'neal, rashard lewis, kobe, tmac Well, randolph and o'neal both took a while to mature. If they both would have went to college for even a year or two their games would have been just that much better. Miles cfould have gone to college for ten years and he would still blow. While tmac kobe and lewis got better quicker and are very good now can you honestly tell me they would have been better off not going to college? The game of basketball is in a decline at the moment bringing in all of these high scgoolers that are clearly not ready. Sure there are some exceptions but they are not the rule.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:26 PM) Tyson is in a contract year too, and I still haven't seen him make any efforts to bulk up... He will bulk up even more. Both him and skiles said so. He has also been dominant when getting a good amount of playing time.

QUOTE(flippedoutpunk @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:23 PM) Any group that can put Eddy Curry and Box Out in the same sentence, loses more credibility than anyone. Eddy curry cannot box out well.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) Can someone please put into consideration Eddy would have been a senior at Depaul or Illinois if he went all 4 years to college. This guy is about the same age as salim stoudamire! How long did it take Jermaine O'neal to put up big numbers? I feel no sympathy for players that come out of high school.

Well i know at least ten people that have dunked on him but i will look tomorrow for pictures like i said... if you guys honestly think he has never been dunked on you are bigger fools than i thought.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:37 AM) I was thinkin' the same thing... This from the kid who stayed up til 6 in the morning looking for Curry references... Or try i have insomnia therefore i very rarely sleep.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:34 AM) Thats hard dude. I noticed qwerty didnt have shaq on his list of players getting dunked on. Yes ,i do. I remember seeing a game a couple years back on tnt when someone dunked on his nasty and everyone was making a big deal about it. Only reason i remember it is because i have the nba package and can just see every game. But the tnt games i watch on tnt rather than listen to the other awful announcers. Edit: Yes, it is an excuse even though i mentioned it in the chat with twenty people to witness it.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:31 AM) Just for my curiosity. Please find me a pic of Shaq being dunked on. You have 5 minutes. I will get some tomorrow. I am on some piece of s*** dial up at my friends house and everything i do takes forever.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:24 AM) Pwned!!!! part 2 Getting posterized has very little to do with defense if anything. Some of the best defensive players have gotten dunked on. You saying you would not take yao ming? He gets dunked on nightly. Mutumbo dunked on, rodman dunked on, shaq dunked on, robinson dunked on, garnett dunked on, duncan dunked on, etc... the list goes on forever and ever. Nice try though.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:21 AM) Dude, isn't it obvious when i say he cannot box out he cannot do it well? Like i honestly think he has never once in his career boxed someone out.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) Notice how you're really not convincing anybody... Notice how many know very little about basketball and they just like to see scorers?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:54 AM) eh first of all if you paid any attention of the positives Curry has done this year you would notice he has boxed out his man from getting the rebounds a number of times, and Curry has done a whole lot of pick and rolls this year so dont know about that cant set a pick comment, if you noticed he started to block some shots recently and he has upped his defense a great deal from the begining of the year.... No his defense isnt great and he isnt a great shot blocker, but he has improved in those 2 area's drastically during the season and theirs no reason he wont improve further. I agree on you about Pietrus though. and Curry cant rebound but with Tyson out their dominating the boards and the rest of the team getting their fair share it really doesnt hurt the team that much. Sure he has boxed people out but not nearly as much as he should be considering his size and how athletic he is. You are mistaking curry with chandler when it comes to setting picks. Chandler will go out twenty feet and set his picks... while curry on the other hand... not so much. Has he upped his blocks enough to get over one damn block a game? There is a reason that he may not improve after this year much considering he will already ahve that big pay day and nothing to look forward to for several years. He is someone that needs motivation and if he doesn't have it i do not see him improving enough to justify what he is gonna get. But why should i care? Not my money i should just become a clippers fan. :headshake f***ing ridiculous that people have given up hope for curry to become a good rebounder and just say that it's alright. Curry does less for this team than chandler does plan and simple even though very very few will admit it or will not call me dumb for saying so.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:50 AM) As an ND fan, I'd love to see Troy Murphy in Chicago. He can rebound with the best of them. I don't know where he would play though, Chandler is the PF of the future for the Bulls. Murphy isn't the same scoring threat that he was in college. He is a good inside guy who can hit a medium and occasionally, a long range jumper when asked. But, he isn't a 3 point threat and can't guard the quicker SFs in the NBA. Without trades/free agent signings: 2005-6's roster PG - Duhon SG - Gordon SF - Deng PF - Davis C- Curry Bench Hinrich Chandler Harrington Nocioni Pargo last two spots - 2 of these 3 Griffin - 2nd round pick - free agent Benching hinrich in favor of both duhon and gordon? We have no second round pick.

Happy birthday.

I was just shocked timo got a hit with someone on let alone a home run... wish it was someone else that hit it

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 10:07 PM) Can't defend yourself and now you refer to something that is true. I don't mind a good argument. I do mind a an argument with a dumb poster who doesn't know the in and outs of something he's talking about and says, "that can't be true" because FACTS go against what he says. qwerty's post = I lost, so I'll say something else that someone will hopefully laugh at. And no, Pietrus' size isn't a reason enough to trade KH. I wouldn't trade KH for a package centered around Pietrus. I do believe Duhon is the better PG(not player). I'm not trading KH for peanuts though. Let's see, you have totally made up the fact that curry can box out. It is one of his biggest flaws... has been since high school. I know some of the others who have hard ons for curry will come to your side and say ''curry can box out with the best of them. I am dumb? Hardly? Do you make up things so that it helps your arguement? Apparently. How did i lose? Curry cannot set a pick, rebound, block shots, or make people alter their shots. He is a decent passer but does not get back on defense well. But you make him out to be a f***ing beast that deserves big money? Something is wrong with that picture. Who said pietrus's size is strickly the reason to get him? How about his defense is just as good as hinrich's , can post up, can play three positions to kirk's two. What i did say is if you can get pietrus and one of murphy/dunleavy/biendras\(sp) and either two second round picks or a first round pick for hinrich and davis you do it. Trading davis away would leave us with many other options to improve next year rather than two years down the road. No need to put words into my mouth. They are not even looking at kirk considering they have richardson and davis there. EDDY CURRY CANNOT BOX OUT.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 09:54 PM) Your questions were answered. You don't want to listen, that's fine. Curry was in a stretch when he wasn't in the 4th(3 games) and after that is when he went on his really big tear. That doesn't just include offense, defense as well. And no one with the exception of Kirk plays enough minutes to average 25ppg. There's a reason why even Gordon isn't averaging that. And feeding a guy the ball isn't what offense is all about. You feed him and what if the defense doubles from the blindside?? Then you have a turnover if you try to force it. You kick it out and the ball swings for the open shot. Curry isn't a liability anywhere, except for rebounding, but I already told you why he's not so much a liability at that either. BTW, Offense does not solely equal scoring. Might want to learn that. My cousin/girlfriend that has never played basketball either can nail 50% of her three pointers too. :headshake Too much made up stuff for me to respond any more.

QUOTE(iWiN4PreP @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) TYSON CHANDLER IS A f***ING BEAST PERIOD. He is no eddy curry.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) He boxes out for others. Watch some Bulls games and you will see that he clears the lane for Chandler, Deng, and Antonio. His biggest problem is after boxing out to go and jump hard for the ball. It's alright. BTW, BULLS ARE CLINCHING TONIGHT. Curry boxes out period? Holy f***ing s***. Now that had to of been a joke. That is one of his biggest problems and it is well known.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) Yes, offense. That's half of the game just in case you didn't know. And Curry is making enough strides on defense to warrant him getting big bucks. Pax and Skiles have taken note of this. Again, it's a money issue with you. Go be a Clippers fan if you don't want to pay him. It is because the Bulls share the ball so well(other players and coaches have said that we execute and run the best team ball in the league), we go away from Curry after the first because teams start collapsing the double teams on him and Skiles likes to get everyone going. Up until recently, Kirk was holding the ball. Curry was good the whole game when Kirk was out because Curry touched the ball on every possession(Duhon got it to him, part of being a better PG than Kirk, early in the shot clock) and was allowed to create for himself and others. If the double came, then Curry quickly kicked it out and the guy who received it would quickly shoot the jumper. If it didn't Curry just handled whoever was guarding him. This was possible by him getting the ball the whole game as opposed to just the first quarter when Kirk is in there. You always have to worry about how you spend your money unless of course you want to be the knicks. Curry is hardly ever in the fourth quarter and even the third quarter because he cannot do anything well but score. Curry has been good in maybe a handful of fourth quarters this year. When we need stops on the last five minutes of a game do you think he should be in? If curry could score 25+ don't you think he would? We should just be able to feed him the ball and boom he scores... or wait he is not on the floor long enough fo that. Plain and simple curry is a liabiliy except for shooting... and by the way scoring is not half the game. I believe half of my questions were not answered.