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Are you saying you believe those?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 07:24 PM) I got banned? You said that? I remember bureau spouting off about similar stuff.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 06:13 PM) The revelations about Manny were much more surprising to me, personally, because he put up great numbers prior even to the dawn of the so-called steroid era. I now believe he was one of the "pioneers", relatively speaking. A certain now banished poster claimed the 2005 White Sox were the cleanest champion of the last 20 years. I think there's a good chance the steroid era started well before anyone has realized it.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 06:26 PM) Not everyone here is proven but... Clemens ('86) Canseco ('88) Bonds ('90, '92-'93, '01-'04) Bagewell ('94) Caminiti ('96) Gonzalez ('98) Sosa ('98) I-Rod ('99) Kent ('00) Giambi ('00) Tejada ('02) A-Rod ('03, '05, '07) Has Kent ever been caught? I don't think he used steroids, personally. He didn't have all too much of a build it seemed. Plus he was active against steroids on a near-Thomas level throughout his career, not that that makes him innocent.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) I wouldn't be suprised if ESPN turns to a "everybody did it" tact and start spewing that basically everyone was on them so the playing field was equal and they didn't really have an advantage They did that with A-Rod and Manny earlier this year. Now it will be tenfold because it's Boston.

Ditching Jordan is probably not going to make older Danks too happy. That alone is a reason to be very weary of trading him.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:06 AM) I'm not talking about the PLAYERS. Pods and Beckham are irreplacable on this team right now, but it has nothing to do with Pods playing CF and Beckham playing 3B. You're missing the point. Just because Beckham is a stud, doesn't mean we don't need a natural 3B. Beckham should be playing SS, and I'd gladly have him there instead of Alexei, except, we have no 3B... I'm not saying that Beckham is bad at 3B, just that it isn't his natural position. He was put there because we have no major league options at 3B. Just because Pods is having a comeback-player-of-the-year type season, doesn't mean we don't need a natural CF, either. I'd much rather we had a major league CF, so we could move Quentin to RF, Dye to DH, and Pods to LF, and improve our defense pretty dramatically(at least while Thome is sitting). This team is extremely flawed, and if you can't see that, well, I don't really know what to tell you. You made the statement we didn't have major league caliber players at those positions. Whether or not Pods and Beckham suck defensively, they are still ABOVE average players, let alone being worthy enough to play in MLB. They do PLENTY of more good then harm, and are where they not only because they are holes at their respective positions, but because we're kind of full at their natural ones. I do wish we move Slayer over a spot, but it's not going to happen on the middle of the season.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:57 AM) Yes, saying Beckham and Pods are not problems on this team is so lol worthy. I mean, really? More or less, they are our two best position players at this point.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:51 AM) CF = Pods/Wise = Brutal at CF/Brutal at the plate Leadoff Hitter = Pods = anomaly this year 3B = Beckham = SS actually, but we have noone on the team that can play 3B and not suck completely at it. I'd say we're "winging it" with those three this season, to be honest. They are far from a problem and KW can and should be commended for his handling of both players.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:33 AM) Because a lot of teams compete for the World Series without any kind of major league caliber leadoff hitter, center fielder, or third baseman? If we were going to compete for a World Series, we have those covered, actually.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 04:19 AM) What can he do with PK, JD, JT, and AJ in the middle of the lineup year after year? What? That's a pretty damn formidable middle of the order.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 03:15 AM) No, I don't think anyone is calling for KW to be seriously fired, but at some point the guy has to be held accountable for giving Ozzie the same tired, slow, fundamentally inept team to work with, year after year. When given lemons, you might be able to make lemonade, but when given dogs***, you really can't make anything out of it. Know what I mean? Other than terrible mishandling of the last couple roster spots, KW has done a pretty damn fine job managing our rosters. Ozzie has had plenty to work with.

Just got home. Nice to see we hammered the mighty Brian Duensing

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 09:34 PM) ...And Nix is the only above average defensive player on the team.

Snell's under club control until 2012.

Alfonseca has 6 fingers. The 6th finger does not touch the ball though so not sure how much it helps.

See ya.

Not that I know how this stuff works, but why would it go through 4chan? The owner surely wasn't the one behind this.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090728/twl-uf...te-3fd0ae9.html Interesting stuff.

Alexei is a pretty elite 2 hole hitter at this point. I want to see how Beckham will handle the 3 spot, as that's where he's going to be don the line.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2009 -> 02:28 AM) Get rid of Nix, get rid of Fields, get rid of all these AAAA players. Why would you get rid of Nix?

We haven't score more than 5 runs in 12 games.

great inning will watch again A+++++

We announce this week's probables already. Richard aint on it.

You baby MCs drink Pedialite. /thread