Wedge

I agree entirely with your argument (except I think the first HBP by Ponson was intentional). If pitcher A beans team B twice without team B retaliating, then either warn pitcher A's team only, eject pitcher A, or do nothing until team B can retaliate. Otherwise, this is just stupid. Ump's never seem to manage this situation right and it pisses me off.

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QUOTE(tigerfan @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) Still this whole thing is stupid IMO. it's like Cinnamon Toast Crunch, adults just never seem to see...

QUOTE(tigerfan @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) I don't get the celebrating. It's not like the Cards pitcher hit you guys on purpose. we're just glad we don't live in Detroit

woman dressed as the world series trophy. Awesome!

Wow, LaRussa sure looked pissed at Ponson.

I just don't want to see anyone hurt or some bad blood between these clubs... I think it was just bad pitching by Ponson.

So is Mulder hurt?

Anderson the igniter?

Are all-star balloting threads the new attendance threads?

QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 06:11 AM) Doesn't Maddux have a deal with management or something, where he can't be traded? I'm guessing considering the Cubs current situation that he would be willing to forego that to go to a contender.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) We have like a 6 game lead in the Wild Card. I know everybody thinks we're "above" that since we won it all last year, but if we take care of buisness that playoff spot is a lock, regardless of what the Tigers do. The goal should be the division and we should concede nothing until somebody clinches something. What made me sick about the Cubs the past few years is how quickly they conceded the division to St. Louis... we can definitely win this thing. Howver, I will agree with you that it is very nice to know we are far ahead in the WC standings.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 11:59 PM) So long as the beer is flowing and the chicks are hot, they could put no one on the field and they'd still sell out. you guys make beer and hot chicks at a game sound like a bad thing!

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 04:27 AM) I was looking over Jenks stats and wanted to see how he compared to other Closers. Then I got to Papelbon. I knew the guy was having a good season, but not this good. In 35.2 IP, he has let up 1 run, walked 4, and allowed 19 hits with 35 Ks. His ERA is 0.25 and his WHIP is 0.64. He also has not allowed a HR, has only 1 Blown Save (which the Sawks won), and 1 Loss (the game where he allowed the one run). Does anyone remember any Closer being this dominant for this length of time? Dustin Hermanson last year? He was pretty awesome to start the year off...

I have this feeling that ESPN has been waiting all year for the "Amazin's" to have the highest winning percentage, even if just for 1 game, to put them at #1.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) As someone who is involved in business and dealing with money I dont see how you can't recognize the total genius of the Tribune company. A blind man could see it in a minute. They can put together a team that is UTTERLY horrible yet they sell out every single game, charge the folks a small fortune for wattery beer, shake down the neighbors for royalties and sell a fortune in tee shirts, caps and stuff. They are making a metric s***-ton of money off this team even though they suck donkey balls. Why on earth would they change anything? So why a 95 Million Dollar roster? Why not just trot out the 15 Million dollar rost from the Marlins?

QUOTE(brijames @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 08:01 PM) How is that killing the Sox? They are only 1.5 back of a Detroit team that is playing as well as they possibly can. True... but we should be winning the division!

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) Det is 15-3 vs Cle and KC Sox are 11-10 versus those two. There ya go. Yeah, those two series against KC and Cle that started the year 2-4 are killing us now. We really need to improve, especially against Cleveland.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) I had to go to northsidebaseball.com and read some of their game thread. One guy posting was at the game and left after the 1st inning. They are pretty funny in making fun of their players over there. One guy was quoted "If Prior would be allowed to pitch with a towel, he'd be Cy Young." That was some of the most hilarious reading I have done in a while.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jun 18, 2006 -> 07:19 PM) The Reds would be pretty damn good if they could find a starting pitcher or four. They might also consider learning to play defense.

Has anybody heard this? Has anybody else thought that, 1) the guy's voice is ridiculous, 2) it's hilariously poorly written?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 09:36 PM) Well...yeah. None of us want a Sox player to suck. The only Sox player I've wanted to fail is Mike Caruso. I kiiiiid, I kiiiiid

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:42 PM) oh man, you are soo gonna get called out. probably

QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:40 PM) Anyway, tigerfan I will respectfully disagree with you. Winning is a great way to make a statement, but you can be a bunch of pussies and still win. It takes a little more to get real respect around the league. Standing up for your teammates is part of that. It must be my Irish up-bringing showing through. If somebody hits me, I hit back. And it won't stop until somebody is in the hospital. I disagree with this sentiment, almost completely. I hope you're not seriously trying to say that a bunch of our guys are a bunch of pussies. Is Thome a pussy? Konerko? Dye? Buerhle? I don't think adhering to some ancient "sacred code" BS makes you any tougher. Hell, I think it might even be more indimidating for the guys to not even act like they cared about getting beaned. Just use the free runners to score some runs. Well, what is the teammate's wishes? Let's open up the paper and see what AJ said: I think most of anyone, AJ understands the whole role of retaliation in a pennant race: personal vendetta takes a back seat to the greater good of the team. I'm sure him of all people doesn't want a teammate getting suspended and potentially costing his team a valuable game in such a tight race with the Tigers. I haven't weighed in on this whole thing yet, but in the end, here's how I view it. AJ gets beaned the first time. Ozzie doesn't want his starter getting tossed in the 2nd inning as that helps no one out and he definitely doesn't want to lose a starter for a game or two for retaliation; thus, he tells Javier not to retaliate. Then the second beaning occurs, causing a warning on both sides. This is really where it was blown, the umpire should have thrown Padilla out of the game for that. Then Tracey gets called in, s*** goes down, he gets sent to AAA and we get a real major league reliever in a trade. In the end, I'm not happy with Ozzie's tirade, but it's just one of those things you have to live with when you have a great manager. I am happy that there are some cooler heads on this team, of all people AJ, who seem to realize the exact role of retaliation when your team is chasing a pennant.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 08:22 PM) If some how he does clear waivers, I'd take him over Tracey or Politte. I could only imagine this board's reaction if he were to sign with Detroit and pitch in Maroth's spot and take advantage of that monstorous park. I don't know about you, but I would enjoy the Tigers losing 1/5 of their games outright. He'd be like our fifth starter woes on the 2003-2004 teams.