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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) @redsoxstats The reporters on MLB Network saying the Sox are in on Sale, Quintana, Joe Smith.. saying Sox could be after a Sale & David Robertson package Robertson definitely seems in play for Boston

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) The trade sale hypothetical is crazy. I on one hand 100% believe in some of the insane packages for him and that they theoretically are true, the potential to get a 8 WAR player for the next 3-4 years at his price is unprecedented. On the other hand, I can't see being on the other side and throwing all the chips required for just a single player. It's why Boston makes the most sense, as they still keep their core together more than the other teams if they empty out the farm.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:14 PM) Anytime you can help Dom blast apart his farm system you do it. I'm more excited about the possibility of getting Urias though Moncada to me is the prize of the minors. Also, any trade with the Red Sox would most definitely include Swihart.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:55 PM) Doesn't matter. If they aren't going to win what difference does it make? Why do you harp on JB Shuck if you are all for losing and a rebuild? Why did you complain about Konerko in 2014? If the Sox went into full rebuild mode and had castoffs and just about every position, there would be plenty of complaining. Even from you. Because it's an indictment on Rick Hahn and the fact he's seemingly not on the hot seat is absolutely astonishing to me. He's the AL version of AJ Preller.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) Was there ever a good explanation given as to why Turner was starting over Fulmer? Now that they are open for business and the clock is ticking why not let Fulmer start until Rodon comes back and then move him to the pen? Yep, either give Fulmer 10 starts in the majors until he hits his season innings limit or send him to AAA. Moving him to the bullpen for this season is something a contending team would be trying.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) People aren't going to be able to deal with a full rebuild. Just look at the facts. 2014 was a rebuilding season, how many people complained about Konerko taking the 25th spot and ruining "roster construction"? They weren't going to win, I thought people didn't care. And many who have said this season is over are complaining Jacob Turner is starting tonight. That's what you get in a rebuild. Guys like Jacob Turner starting, for years. The complaints about Turner starting tonight were before Hahn said they're open for business.

Turner vs best pitcher in AL should be fun tomorrow

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 05:03 AM) To be completely honest, if we traded Sale and Quintana, there's almost no return that wouldn't still have me much less interested in following the team for the foreseeable future. It would absolutely be a punt to a few years from now hoping that we at least walk away with a couple of guys as good as the ones we lost. In all honesty, this is interesting right now? Only thing I make sure to watch right now on a consistent basis is Anderson.

Think we are in lose for draft spot time now. Just don't get swept by the Cubs

Q for Soler and Happ is the dumbest thing I have ever seen

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:27 AM) rough day for our top offensive draft picks. Collins call and fisher all 0-4. Nice to see fisher back tho Collins picked off a guy at 3rd it looks like

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:21 AM) Now, you're picking on 19 year old kids? Just seems like a long shot to become a legit prospect. Career .214 hitter who strikes out a ton with minimal in-game power. July 2nd guys are always a crapshoot, and it seems he might have been more workout warrior than anything else.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 03:35 AM) Dude, he even said in the post there aren't better options. That is the failing of this Sox team - no depth whatsoever. Exactly, over the last month we've had to say a lineup with Shuck, Navarro and Avi in it. How in the hell are you expecting that to be a contending team? So much of this falls back on the horrendous offseason Hahn had.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:24 AM) You are a real character. J.B. is a 4th outfielder. He's not suppose to play like an everyday player. Ahochin And again, is a negative 0.7 fWAR on the season. He's a mediocre 4th outfielder that is having to play way too much because Hahn didn't make a move once Jackson suffered that injury. My biggest issue with Shuck is that he doesn't do anything well in the 3 main categories. He's fast, but it doesn't result in an effective base runner. In terms of outfielders, he's 121 out of 127 in terms of fWAR for anyone with at least 140 at bats. Over the last two years, he's 168 out of 174 for outfielders (Avi is 172).

Any chance this game resumes?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:14 AM) No, that title belongs to Garcia, Navarro, or Abreu. Not according to fangraphs

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:11 AM) J.B. Schmuck swung on 2 pitches outside of the strike zone. What a loser. Worst overall player on the Sox, good thing he's playing every day.

What a truly awful at bat by Frazier. It's like he panics as soon as there are RISP.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:55 AM) I was actually at that game too. Craziness. Roughed up Maddux?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:52 AM) I hate Navarro, but Narvaez's 2016 looks like this so far: AA .222/.286/.267 AAA .245/.292/.329 Had same number of good at bats in his one game as Navarro has in his last 9. Not saying he's good, but don't get starting Navarro 80 pct of the time.

So Adolfo just isn't good, is he? Some bad offense all around http://mlbfarm.com/index.php?team=CWS

This broadcast sucks tonight. Stone saying Mets would want Fulmer back. Well no kidding, but Cespedes was amazing for them last year.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:45 AM) I was at the game Miguel Olivo got traded mid-game. Hit a 3 run bomb that day against the Cubs. Trade was announced after that game. Truly stunning

Why isn't Omar N. Getting more playing time? Navarro is simply horrible

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:38 AM) Nice one. Barstool dude thinks if he was traded we would know by now. Also makes me think he wasn't one of the guys he heard was possibly getting traded