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QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:54 AM) All things considered, I consider Giolito's outing promising for his first MLB start of the year. Command of the fastball, Excellent change. Needs to work on throwing strikes with the curve but Coop will help with that. Homers suck, but when the wind is blowing out at Sox Park there is nothing you can do really about HRs. Some that would be flyball outs in other parks are HRs here. He pitched much better than his line will show. Fastball effectiveness was way better than I expected early on. His best pitch has to be his curve, so let's hope we see huge Improvements with it going forward

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 01:51 AM) When you can sit on it, the 2nd and 3rd time through the lineup, ML lineups are going to tee off. To me, always felt he needs to pitch backwards. Slow stuff to get ahead and then high fastballs up in the count

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:51 AM) I wonder if he wouldn't be a better starting SS than the current starting SS Easily

Slow hook of course. That fastball got really destroyed last few innings

Wouldn't mind pulling Giolito now

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) I think we have a keeper with Giolito, but if he's throwing 92-93 vs 95-96 he's a #3 and not a potential ace. I think we all would be thrilled if he can be a 3.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:30 AM) This sort of felt like a spring training start to be honest, focusing on one thing (the fastball) and not really worrying about secondary stuff. Totally agree

Missing right down the plate on nearly every fastball now. Gonna get ugly if he can't use offspeed stuff

Ugh, real bad pitch selection on 0-2. Needs to start mixing in some curves

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:15 AM) Like most pitchers, it's going to be heavily dependent on Giolito keeping his mechanics in check. If he can do that consistently, I think the Sox got a good one. If not..... Never really realized how much there is to his delivery.

Anderson again shows why he's one of the worst in baseball against a slider.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:56 AM) watched one of giolitos AAA outings 2-3 weeks ago and he was getting guys out almost exclusively with offspeed stuff. Tonight using his fastball. If he can consistently throw strikes with his fastball like this, his curve and change are good enough for him to easily be a #3 Yep it's very promising he's getting swings and misses on his fastball

That was glorious by Yoan

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:48 AM) Engel may be struggling with the bat but is playing a dynamite CF All statistical indicators are that Leury is better defensively

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:47 AM) Engel really isn't a MLB player unless he makes drastic, and I mean really drastic, strides at the plate. I don't get why people are penciling into the starting outfield next year over guys like Leury, Willy (who have actually shown flashes of being good MLB hitters), Cordell, etc. His defense is great but that means nothing if your OPS is in the .500s Well said

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:44 AM) good lord...what a horrible AB Engle. Go up there with an idea at least... Kinda wish Leury was getting reps in CF and Delmonico in LF

Thank god playing for one run. Ricky rules

Giolito actually getting some swings and misses on fastball. Huge development

Omar so bad at framing low pitches

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 06:40 PM) Also based off almost nothing other then seeing a few games last season, I'm jumping on the Eierman bandwagon. He was my favorite player in the tournament last year. Reminded me of Tulo. I liked that he didn't seem overmatched by good pitching and had a lot of swagger. To me, he was a significantly better prospect than Burger

As I've said before, it's troubling that no non-Sox source has said anything positive about his ability to catch

I love that swing

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:37 AM) Do you still like him as a closer? Not at all, don't think his stuff will improve a lot out of the pen. I think Cease is the closer in two years

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:24 AM) I don't get why people are so impatient. He sucks, but it really is not an issue for us to try him as a reliever next year. It's not like we're trying to contend or we have a packed bullpen or anything. The risk is nonexistent. Worst case scenario, he sucks and we lose more games, and get a better pick. Honestly, I'm more frustrated with how poorly Moncada and Anderson played today than Fulmer. With that said, hopefully Giolito performs decently tomorrow. Not overly optimistic

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 03:19 AM) He doesn't have enough time on the books to make it a career yet. Give him a chance If he wasn't a high pick, he would probably be searching for another organization sooner rather than later