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QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 06:53 PM) Just to play Devil's Advocate, if the price for Cespedes/Upton eventually does come down in the 2-3 yr range then there will be teams that aren't interested now jump in the mix. Yep, which is why you're hearing about the Tigers, Mets and Red Sox possibly getting back into the picture.

Marlins might only have to pay Chen 20 million for 2 years....great deal

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) Doesn't this lower the price for a Colorado OF in a trade too? Teams know they have to trade an OF now. I'm willing to bet they already have the parameters of a deal in place

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) It's not at all that simple. Yes, talent helps, but it's also very dependent on the head coach putting an emphasis on special teams. I also think having a kicker that can kick it high and just long enough is important. FSU's kicker was amazing at that.

FWIW, the guy who broke the Parra signing was also the one who said the Sox were interested in Cargo

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) It would be incredible to see Baltimore give up a nice prospect package for any of the Rockies OFs taking them out of both Davis and Cespedes. I could see them still going after Davis if they get Dickerson

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) If the Sox are seriously interested in him, that makes me think that they don't see Anderson as the SS of the future. But perhaps he could switch to be an OF or something else. Or Anderson is trade bait

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 06:09 PM) That is a double bonus for the White Sox. #1 it will mean the Rockies trade an OF, and it is a low number. Yep, makes Fowler's price way lower than I thought it would be. I'd rather have Fowler at something like 3/42 than Cespedes at 4/100

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 07:06 PM) Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 4m4 minutes ago Gerardo Parra has signed with #Rockies for 3 years and $26 million, according to report from my friend @WilmerReina. Wow, less money than I thought. Now time for Rockies to make a deal.

I'm assuming Eaton's name was probably going to be on a press release with another update in the days ahead. Lots of bigger names missing, including Robertson/Q/Lawrie/Cespedes

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) That tells you exactly how far his price has fallen FWIW Or that Cespedes' camp has reached back out to teams to ask for more money on shortened deals

Well, congrats to the Cubs or Dodgers Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 21m21 minutes ago Source: Cuban phenom Lazarito Armenteros cleared by MLB, eligible to sign starting Feb. 10. Corner OF/IF, 16 years old.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) I think Cespedes is holding up the market more than Davis is. But some of this has nothing to do with either of them https://t.co/ZqArou2jqZ https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/686654828148342790 Someone asked Jayson if Davis is holding up the market and his reply I've been wondering if maybe it's Baltimore trying to make a trade for Cargo

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) Why is that a concern? He has a good arm, and RF would seem to have less balls hit on the screws that scares him into playing so deep. He takes far too long to release a ball, which seems like a recipe for a ton of first to third on a base hit.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) To me, he doesn't pass the eye test, and the metrics don't like him much either. DRS hates him, and UZR usually hates him too but said he was OK in 2015. I also worry that Eaton would be a disaster in RF if they get a CF and move Eaton there.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 08:59 PM) Not just today but over the past few days. I feel like the longer this drags out, the more teams that will get involved due to a lower price & the Sox will get caught standing there. I'm the opposite where I think the price is just too high for the Sox to commit to it, and eventually, a team like the Orioles or Tigers will get desperate enough to pay up.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 08:38 PM) This sort of Detroit momentum today could be from Yo's side and pressuring Hahn. What momentum?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 08:10 PM) Yeah I have to say my list would probably be embarrassing. I'm not sure there is a movie I've seen 10+ times that I would say is a great movie. This is probably the top of the top. I may have spent a full month of my life on: Office Space Swingers Air Force One Pitch Perfect Lion King Space Jam Bio dome I feel sick. I think I have seen Toy Story 3 approximately 50 times

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) That's the thing. I bet the White Sox would do something like 4 years at $88-$92 million. I can't see Detroit doing that though. If Detroit decides to go over luxury tax, then they'll be willing to pay more than the Sox...no doubt in my mind.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) So let's say this. Cespedes on a 4/$88M ($22M AAV) deal or Fowler on a 3/$42 ($14M AAV) & a SS or 4/5 starter w/ the remaining $8M they save per year. What improves the team more? No doubt, option 2

Disappointing Rodon won't be there

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:01 PM) I think now would be a great idea to simply temper expectations on what the Sox will do. Problem with the Tigers getting Cespedes is it could make them really good the next two years or so, which is supposedly the Sox window as well.

Parra's going to get more than 8 million a year

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) Parra to the Angels and Davis resigning in Baltimore would be huge for the Sox. And as much as I'd hate it, so would Raburn going to the Tigers. It would also be really, really nice if someone signs Fowler soon.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) This thread will get to 175 pages by the time Cespedes or Upton signs with anyone. Almost debating putting Desmond and Davis into this list as well. I think Desmond is more likely than Upton