fathom

McCarron choking hard

Also, Fowler is pretty bad on defense. His numbers probably looked better last year due to shifting

QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 02:55 AM) The pick inclusion sucks, but I'm warming to the idea of Fowler more and more. Him batting 2nd or 5th with Eaton moving over to RF. It looks like he'll have a 3/30 price tag attached to him, which is certainly manageable. He will get way more than ten a year though. Something to keep in mind is he is way better against LHP, and he won't face that many do to the Sox having 4 of them.

Cafardo usually has good info. Doesn't mention Sox with Cespedes, but says Tigers have been discussing him a lot. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/01/...l?event=event25

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 06:16 PM) The linked article does not say that. But it does say the sox low balled Upton on a short term deal. I saw the other article yesterday and it was based on no facts or rumors and just where each would fit the best

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:14 PM) "Sources told ESPN's Jim Bowden that the 28-year-old Upton has been offered low-ball, short-term offers from both the Chicago White Sox and the Los Angeles Angels." The more time goes by, the more I believe the Sox won't go more than 3 years on anyone

Article says Sox offered Upton a short-term deal http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14531913...-larry-reynolds

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:41 AM) It's been like an hour and it's a Friday. And just because a guy suggests something or not doesn't mean that's the definite case. They have Saunders, Pillar and Bautista in the OF with Pompey waiting. They have no openings.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:40 AM) Yep, gotta agree. They could sign a big bat and trade Pompey for a comparable young starting pitcher. I definitely would not over-look the Jays at this point and the kicker is they are not afraid of long term commitments. Aren't they notorious for not giving long-term deals

Yet to see any baseball reporter suggest jays will go after a big OF

I'm sure a lot of teams are trying to get him to take a one year deal. Reports are that 11 teams offered that to Span.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 02:49 AM) Name those 6 teams Sox, Cardinals, Tigers, Nationals, Orioles, Angels

Heyman also made it sound like Boras is really pushing Davis to other teams. He mentioned the Tigers and Nationals as possibilities

Heyman just said up to 6 teams in on Cespedes

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) And things will get much worse if the Rockies sign Parra and trade another OF. That adds another bat to the market, but no more teams. Not if it's a simple Parra to Rockies, Cargo to Cardinals. That would actually be bad for the Sox, as Parra is more likely a possibility for Nats/Angels

George Ofman ‏@georgeofman 12m12 minutes ago Chicago, IL While Sox might be open to 4 year deal, very unlikely they go past three with either player. He's not making a lot of sense

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Correct. His deal seems to be the only l8ng term offer out there. This could drag out until ST with the agents playing chicken with the GMs who seem to be holding there ground. The only thing that could change is if one FA decides this is the best they will get and sign ie, Davis. I don't think it will last that long, as the Orioles are going to have to eventually get one of the guys.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:13 PM) Yeah, these seem to be hard fought negotiations and the agents aren't getting near what they wanted. They are going to fight for every nickel now. And they have no reason to sign until Chris Davis does

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) Here we go... Probably not

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Really! The sox have held to the 3 year deal but as upton becomes interested it might go 4? It's called negotiations. The best part about the report, if true, is that they're willing to go 4 years

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Between Upton and Cespedes, which guy do you think is more likely to sign with the Sox? Not rabbit and have no sources, but Cespedes is the easy pick here. Likely to get more money and has Abreu here. Upton has no ties at all to Chicago and draft pick attached.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 08:58 PM) Can anyone else envision Upton getting a 4 year deal with an opt out after sat year 2? Absolutely, makes a lot of sense for everyone involved. Sox wouldn't want to give up a draft pick for a 1-year rental, and Upton would be a FA before the huge 2018 class.

Still think Cargo goes to Cards for Gonzales and Adams

Saw some speculation the Nats might trade Gio for a CF and then sign Chen (Rosenthal I believe today said this)

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 05:20 PM) Hahn=brilliant moves for Lawrie and Frazier KW and spendthrift JR=directly responsible for not getting any of the bigger targets remaining on the board Agreed, which is ironic because in past years, people blamed KW for going after the big names.