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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 7, 2014 -> 01:35 AM) Yeah kind of like being in between on the fastball as a hitter...he takes time to get to full speed, lacks the ability to get good jumps. Some players can improve but others just tend to struggle with what should be instinctual actions. If he can put up 25 homers and 35-40 doubles all is forgiven...but how likely are those numbers offensively? He could actually be an interesting trade chip if he has big time value.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 7, 2014 -> 01:25 AM) He's still very hesitant and needs to bust it and get back to the wall as quickly as possible...had time to get back and just didn't get it done. He's just not natural or fluid out there. For as quick as he is getting down the line, he looks slower than Viciedo in the outfield.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 7, 2014 -> 01:22 AM) Yikes Avi. I still think that shoulder is still affecting his mindset defensively. He was terrible on defense before the injury. To me, he looks like a LF.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 7, 2014 -> 01:48 AM) Michigan O line still blows As does Hoke's decisions to go for two field goals of longer than 45 yards.

Peavy just went nearly 3 hours between pitches due to a rain delay

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 02:25 AM) I'm wondering what the setup with Nick Markakis will be. He's had 2 down years but is still not ancient like Martinez, he's had 2 down years so there's a decent chance he doesn't get the QO that costs you a draft pick and a substantial amount to your signing pools, he's a left handed hitting corner OF so he fits our needs, but do you think the 2 straight down years is the end of his really productive career or do you think he's got a multi year recovery to his previous production set up? I've always been under the impression he'll stay in Baltimore, as he's the owner's favorite player.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 03:22 AM) Why would that be if it is so much better for them? The timing of the complaints was interesting again. Waiting until after the inning is over. But Soxtslk got what they wanted, the Charlotte Knights playing major league baseball. It is hard to win when you score 1 run. For starters, there haven't been many Jose Abreu's. Something Hahn is go.ng to have to address is getting someone behind Abreu that will make teams think twice about intentionally walking him.

Michael Taylor is horrible on defense. The ball jumps off of his bat, but he doesn't make a lot of contact due to mediocre pitch recognition.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 02:15 AM) If it is so much better to not bunt and have the runner at 1st, wouldn't a genius manager like yourself, just walk Abreu anyway ? Teams almost never walk the batter if it's someone on first base with 1 out.

Simply horrible managing by Ventura this inning.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 02:12 AM) Ventura simply cannot think 2 moves ahead - that's been obvious for 3 seasons. He gives away an out AND takes the bat out of the best hitter's hands. He's a third grader. Still don't know how he has a job after this year. In the 2nd inning, Hawk and Stone was saying how many stupid base running mistakes have been made by young guys and veterans this year. A lot of the same mistakes have been made two straight years now.

Gotta love taking the bat out of Abreu's hands.

Pretty disappointing effort from the hitters tonight. Tons of swings at offspeed pitches a foot off the plate.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 01:29 AM) Why was he brought up over Mitchell? I know Jared isn't great but should've been brought up to see what he is, good or bad. I thought I read where Taylor was out of options, while Mitchell has one more year in the Sox system left.

Taylor swings at some terrible pitches.

I know I previously mentioned Pedro Alvarez as someone the Sox could target. I would love for them to also go after Justin Wilson as their main lefty in the bullpen. He struggled this year, but he has fantastic stuff and would be a big upgrade to the pen.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 10:31 PM) I really think he's part of the team next year if he can hit consistently. Yep, and just like with Flowers, I'll be ok with it as long as the available money goes to a strong starting pitcher and lefty hitting DH or LF

With Viciedo, it would be interesting to see if they really do want to make him the back-up/emergency 1B for Abreu next year.

I love this lineup tonight. I know we talk about how a lot of the games, it's not bad for the future if the Sox lose. Well, tonight is a game I'd really like to see them win.

My prediction for White Sox players in the preseason top 100 rankings next year (taking out anyone called up to the majors this year): - Rodon #8 - Anderson #45 - Danish #92 Top 10 overall: 1- Bryant 2- Buxton 3- Giolito 4- Russell 5- Correa 6- Lindor 7- Urias 8- Rodon 9- Glasnow 10- Gallo

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 08:58 PM) I'd say Hawkins is significantly up, not neutral. The biggest reason why I didn't put Hawkins in the Up category is because the home run total was disappointing to me. He did a great job improving his K rate (while walking a decent number of times), but I think he needs to be in the 30 home run range to regain his above average prospect status. He's likely never going to have a strong hit tool, so the power better carry him.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 09:33 PM) I feel the same way and you worded it much better than I did. I think where we disagree on this one is that I don't think the Sox would have any problem giving Stanton $25 mill a year. Thanks to the contracts they've signed with Sale and Quintana (assuming you didn't use Quintana to acquire him), they've gained some leeway in giving out extra money, and he'd clearly be worth it. Beyond that, I think he's the type of player who you can trade too if you need to recoup some value. He's also a very good candidate for an opt out after 4 years, which hurts the club long-term but assures you get more than the initial service time guarantee. Again, all hypothetical, but it's fun to try and quantify the value of certain players on the team. Stanton's going to get more than 25 million per year, it would seem.

Stanton is phenomenal, but there are quite a few other teams that can easily outbid the White Sox. Most people seem to think the Red Sox will put together an impressive package of players in order to try and get him. Just based on Hahn's desire to get some lefty power into the lineup, Pedro Alvarez seems to be someone that I could see the Sox going after.

With the Sox minor league games all but over, I was thinking of who improved their stock/hurt their stock this season. Thoughts? Stock Up: 1- Frank Montas 2- Tyler Danish 3- Andy Wilkins 4- Tim Anderson 5- Chris Bassitt 6- Trey Michalczewski 7- Carlos Sanchez 8- Rangel Ravelo 9- Cleuluis Rondon 10- Adam Engel Stock Neutral: - Micah Johnson - Courtney Hawkins - Chris Beck - Scott Snodgress - Keon Barnum - Marcus Semien - Josh Phegley Stock Down: 1- Erik Johnson 2- Matt Davidson 3- Trayce Thompson 3- Andre Rienzo 4- B. Ortiz/A. Mitchell 5- Jacob May

Avi had a really good game. Not only that, two straight games without striking out.