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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 11:32 PM) I'd still be happy with Granderson Granderson is one of my favorite athletes of all-time, but I'd prefer to not lose a high 2nd round pick for him.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 11:26 PM) Gotta wonder how long Hahn is going to stand pat with all this activity going on around the Sox in the ALC? None of the moves made should be in response to the ALC getting better, in my opinion. If you're not going to try and compete next season and/or the year after that, then by all means, spend away ALC.

Saw a tweet on mlbtraderumors that Royals might be favorites to get Beltran.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) Exactly. Nobody is going to be thrilled with a guy like Lobaton but it does make sense in the context of what Hahn is trying to do. Yep, it gives you someone that can face tough righties and not have Flowers or Phegley severely over-matched in those situations.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:48 PM) I'd rather re-load considering we're 1/3 of the way there after getting Abreu and Garcia and have a helluva pitching staff. Seems to me there were guys out there to re-load with. I'll stop now. I'll just conclude by saying it's been a disappointing day as a fan for me. The White Sox starting pitching is so overrated. It's good, but so are a lot of other rotations in the AL.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) What he means is that it's about not spending unnecessary money in year 1 of the rebuild. If true it's a slight upgrade without getting your team stuck with a bad contract. And a player they should be able to acquire for cheap, given Tampa already has 2 catchers on their MLB roster.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:45 PM) Lobaton is a place holder while the Sox are rebuilding. Exactly!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) Trade Lobaton to the Royals to back up Sal Perez for a possible bullpen arm and we start Phegs. Lobaton will assure me not buying the MLB package this year. It's like we are trying to lose games rather than spend some money and make a splash and win. Chicago is a big market city. Time to win again. It's called rebuilding.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:16 AM) I agree... Just a terrible catcher and hitter. He would be a great 16 inch softball player though. Swing away Merrill.. Swing away. As long as he doesn't take called 3rd strike right down the plate like he loves to do.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:02 AM) Has anything changed? He could still be traded. The Sox could still sign or trade for another catcher as a #1 or platoon. I remember a lot of us being pissed the Sox tendered a contract to Ben Davis at the deadline, as we thought it meant they wouldn't go after AJP.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 01:57 AM) No thats a pretty terrible situation I'd be fine with Flowers being in a platoon with someone like Jaso. If you're trying to compete though, you can't expect Flowers to be your primary catcher in a division with such dynamic RHP.

I'm a little surprised by this

Incredible trade for the Nationals. I wonder if this is a prelude to Tigers signing Cano or Ellsbury? With this asking price the Tigers had for Fister, I'm stunned the Cubs didn't try to get him.

I know a lot of people dislike him, but this sums up my thoughts well: Dan Bernstein ‏@dan_bernstein 6m It would be a worse loss if the #Bears were actually good. If that helps.

I don't think Trestman is conservative at all. It just seems he's been making a lot of choices of late that are hard to justify. Oh well

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 10:47 PM) Yep. This loss is on Trestman. This has been said far too much of late.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 09:45 PM) On 2nd down. I've been less than impressed with Trestman this year. Trestman is going to get destroyed by the Chicago media after this one. Poor Gould, I can't imagine his emotions right now.

Can Trestman just be the offensive coach and let there be a head coach that manages everything else?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 09:39 PM) I hate kicking it just to kick it. Get more yards. Its not a 27 yarder YEP

Wow, settling for a 47 yard FG...pathetic

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 10:33 PM) twitter? yes

Haha, what a ridiculous game. FWIW, Pereira saying the face mask was obvious call.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 09:27 PM) so touching the shoulder pads is now a horsecollar, even if you let go and tackle him by the legs? three horrible calls to end the game here. Pereira saying they've been bad calls.

Wow, these refs are pathetic

Wow, you rarely see that penalty overturned. Definitely a home field call.