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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:55 AM) And yet our rotation in 2015 may very well be the same as it is now, and that's a good thing. We just need someone, anyone, who can hit. Luckily that should be easier to find. I'll be honest, I wouldn't mind the Sox giving Beckham a 3 year extension for a team-friendly amount (I think baseball prospectus recommended this also). He might not be great, but he'll give you good defense and double digit home runs while allowing you to focus on other positions to try and upgrade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:46 AM) Rios and Sale are the only thing close to elite talents on the team right now. HECTOR SANTIAGO

QUOTE (KPBears @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:44 AM) The problem is that there is no elite talent on the big league team (PK may have been once, but the years and mileage have taken their toll, and Sale, while likely to be a very good starter, is, in my opinion, a solid number one starter, but not a true ace...and yes board, feel free to flame me if you'd like), and there isn't any on the farm apparently, as Hawkins is struggling, although it's way too early to write him off. There is some decent talent on the big league club, but to contend, you really would need career seasons from a lot of those players (e.g. DeAza, Viciedo, Beckham). The years of safe but low ceiling drafting along with few very high draft picks (which is a nice problem to have) have left the cupboard bare, and I just don't see how the Sox are going to be competitive for a while. I'm optimistic that Hahn will right the ship sooner rather than later, and while a lot of people point out (and are partially correct) that loading up on top prospects isn't a recipe for success, it doesn't hurt your chances, particularly when said top prospects can be great trade chips. Sorry to give up on the season so soon, but I'm hoping for a fire sale, and to bring in as many young players as possible and let Ventura do what he's supposed to be good at - working with young talent. Yeah, the attendance will be miserable, as will the on-field product, but those things will happen anyway with the current team. I'd like to see the Sox be proactive sooner rather than later, and will support and follow the team with a keen eye towards the future. Hahn was apparently one of the most coveted young execs in baseball, so let's see what he can do. IMO, it has a lot less to do with drafting safe talent. Instead, far too many trades have resulted recently in the Sox giving up talented players only to get absolutely nothing in terms of impact players in return. Hahn definitely has a tough job right now and can't afford to continue with Kenny's streak of striking out on trades. Gillaspie was a good start for Hahn, but bigger trades are sure to come. There's not a single position player that you can place in the mock 2015 Sox lineup and be confident they will be an everyday starter. I'm not sure there's another team in baseball you could say that about.

Well, I'll be cheering for Quintana to pitch another gem tomorrow. Hopefully things start to turn around, cause I really don't want to lose interest in this season before April is even over.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:30 AM) Heading toward 1998-1999. Hey, they made their bed. It was also probably the nicest weather of 2013 today in Chicago.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:27 AM) A-14,950, in case you were wondering. YIKES

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:26 AM) That reminds me, I don't think you could form a worse bench if you tried. Promoting Tekotte after Tank's injury is one of the more puzzling decisions in recent White Sox history.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:09 AM) I know we talk about DFA'ing people a lot, but I'd love to see the Sox just release Thornton. I had to vent. I realize fat chance that will happen. That would be about the dumbest thing they could do at this moment.

I really hope they don't rush him. Just put a plan in place for him to return in August, and go from there.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:50 AM) Here's the deal. I agree they will hit better, most if not all of them really. But at that point how deep of a hole will they have put themselves in? Cause we all know (outside of '10) getting out of holes, not the Sox specialty. Even if they hit better, it's a pretty low ceiling for most of the guys.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 04:00 AM) Which is completely opposite from last year. Anyone happy Robin turned down the extension in the offseason? Better question is if anyone is not happy he did that?

This team sucks

Alexei's head if flying off the ball tonight. Needs to stay closed just a little longer.

Oh Hawk, shut up. That was foul by 30 feet

Konerko with an awful game.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 02:46 AM) What a fun game. Nice job Bulls. Hinrich had a studly effort on Deron. Defense was just lockdown. Boozer with a great game. Noah was a beast and props to Rose. He did a nice job getting in the guys ears and cheering. Secretly I hope that it also gets him more into the game and hopefully more willing to get on the court. Great job Bulls!!! Belinelli was total horses***. Single handedly looked like he wanted to cost the Bulls the game with his selfish offense. Nice birthday gift for you!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:44 AM) He's making $5.5 million to be the "non-closer" still. Do you really think it's going to matter to fine him $1000? It will just make the attitude in the clubhouse even worse at this point. They need someone like Kirk Gibson or Bo Porter and to add a lot more youth into that line-up. Thornton/Crain/Lindstrom will have value somewhere else, maybe you can just dump Thornton's salary or eat part of it and just start over with the back end of the bullpen. I said it earlier today, but don't expect much in return for Thornton. If anything, you try to save a million or so by dealing him.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:42 AM) Paint by numbers managing. I want back the manager (Ventura) that was anything but that for the first 4 months or so of last season. Austin Powers needs to use a time machine to go back and find Ventura's managerial mojo.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 02:40 AM) This will be the first time they led after 7 and lost, if they do. Addison Reed has been great this year, so clearly Ventura wanted Thornton to face Cabrera.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 02:39 AM) You look at the roster and it screams 75 wins. Sorry but that's the truth. We needed the younger guys to break out and the older guys to NOT decline. Not happening. If Dunn plays like 2011 Dunn and it takes Beckham/Viciedo long to recover, it looks more like a 70 win team. The AL Central is way better than it was last season.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 02:36 AM) No he is as bad a in game manager Sox have had since Terry Bevington. I'd have to imagine the TV ratings for this game are about as low as they've been since the Hawks were in the Stanley Cup.

Hawk is as pissed as I've heard him at the team in a very long time.

Do you think Ventura had any clue that Cabrera is better against LHP than RHP over the course of his career?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 03:31 AM) I can't wait for the guys who contracts end the next two years to ALL go. This team needs an overhaul of talent and attitude.

I have never seen a team that executes worse than this team. 2011 was pretty bad, but this team seems like they've never been coached in any aspect of the game. Ventura's demeanor seems to be rubbing off on the team.